Elementor: [Feature Request] nested sections/Tabs/Accordions/Toggles Drag and Drop editing

[DomGrieco]

Description

When using Tabs/Accordions/Toggles the editor assumes that you want to store text within these widgets. Scratch this default and make it work as a section, or column, where you can drop other widgets into these areas.

I think it would be best to automatically have 1 column inside of the Tabs/Accordions/Toggles making it so users quickly realize this area is open to bringing other widgets into. All previous version of elementor would take currently used Tabs/Accordions/Toggles and convert them into Tabs/Accordions/Toggles with a text editor widget inside a 1/1 column with the current data inside to prevent issues with previous users and their widgets.

It may be easier to just create "Advanced Tabs/Accordions/Toggles that have this functionality and make it PRO version only. That way you do not need to worry about issues with previously used Tabs/Accordions/Toggles and it makes PRO more enticing.

Steps to reproduce

Add Tab/Accordion/Toggle widget to page. Drag and drop any other widget into the Tab/Accordion/Toggle widget.

[black-eye]

+1 for this one.
Plain text element as the only content could be quite limiting sometimes.
(I know we could use shotcodes, but the section would be much more flexible.)

[bainternet]

The Tabs, Accordion and Toggle widgets are widgets and not containers/wrappers like column or section.

Creating a drop-zone inside these widgets (Tabs,Accordion and Toggle) is a real challenge and we are exploring a few solutions (maybe) to it.

But like @black-eye said currently you can use shortcodes inside these widgets which wont give you the same editing experience but will give you the desired results (in 99% of the cases).

I'll leave this open for now so we'll know to get back to it.

thanks for the feedback.

[smile00000]

Agreed. https://www.self.com/ <---- This is a perfect example. I love how at this site the search bar, menu bar, and login bar all open from the top. Would love to be able to choose the direction of how it opens.

And yes they do have plugin content within each one (search, menu icons and links and login form)...would be great for our plugins! Would love you to add this.

They are coded as "drawers" in their code.

[tristanleboss]

Elementor really lack this feature. Sections should be able to be nested.

We should be able to code blocks with a section inside it allowing users to add blocks inside. The WYSIWIG control is not a solution...

[Webnik]

+1 for this. I came to this thread from another one that was for a similar (nesting) feature for columns.

I too came to Elementor from Thrive Content Builder / Architect and love Elementor. But one thing lacking is the ability to nest columns (and in this thread, toggles/etc.). Would be great to have this feature.

[batnyam]

+1
we need multiple rows in one section

[ionlantern]

+1

[markhagemann]

+1

[ghost]

Is this the right place for Nested Columns? I ask as (elsewhere) it's said that Columns are not actually a Widget - they're a Section.

However, my point in adding to this thread is to add my weight to the need to have a way of nesting columns more than is currently possible.

Columns don't have to be nested indefinately ... there will be a diminishing number of people who want 4, 5, or 6 levels ... but one more than current (so, 3rd level) would be great.

There are a couple of videos on YouTube which show the limited nesting available, but as others have said, modern page designs need more. There are a number of threads about nesting other components, or placing them side-by-side ... nested columns would answer many of these requests too.

+1 for nested columns

[rbabayoff]

@bainternet where can I find the list of shortcodes for elementor widgets and the attributes they accept?

[ghost]

+1 for nested sections/columns and being able to add widgets into Accordions

[starshunter88]

+1

[diegox80]

+1 for nested sections/columns

[Codevz]

+1

[Deltachi]

+1 for nested columns

[diegovogel]

+1 for nested columns. Just a couple more levels would be fantastic.

[davidefiorio]

+1 for this one.
This is the only one thing missing from Elementor. :)

[zrk4444]

+1

[notrealdev]

+1 billion

[marka33]

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Need to do nested columns 3 -4 levels deep ASAP. HELP.

[steffanhalv]

Is it planned yet?

[m2sahin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYaPYs0W908

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyTHBWY4Msw

[muchadesign]

+1 for Nested Columns.

_Really_ needed that today on a project.

[Gozubohca]

Elementor has become a stack of templates. In fact it is possible to do most things without using templates. tabs, accordions, toggles, even slide and popup. (example: brizy.io)

Elementor must solve this urgently.

[Tofandel]

I just discovered elementor and was hoping to switch from Visual Composer to it (which is terrible in performances and UX)
But sadly as long as this is not implemented that won't be possible

I also wanted to create some kind of shortcode builder with it, as a plugin but because it doesn't allow for containers/nested containers it is not possible
I've made a shortcode mapper interface that can map shortcodes to visual composer and elementor based on which is installed, but it doesn't work if the shortcode must have nested shortcodes or content inside.

Is this open to pull request, If I have some time to dive in I'd be happy to start working on this feature

[Tofandel]

My approach would be the following
Create a Container_Base that extends the Widget_Base
Create a Content control that will not directly be shown on the sidebar but will be used to allow drag and drop on the builder

Overload the container base to always have a content control added

[tristanleboss]

Hey guys,

They sent an email asking what features we want in Elementor. Maybe we should send this one ;)
If they ask by email, it does mean this "features tracker" is not really used... because it's full of great features that deserve being implemented for years (this one is 1.5 years old!). The problem is that the users of this "features tracker" are geeks... not lambada users. We need our voice to be heard so lets blend in with the lamba users!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfiUUgFEo5V_NtRoNSrDtkwr8o9ZXLjXXKcnbSLF21y_PR2pA/viewform?entry.968242289=youremail

[Tansael]

Nesting sections/inner-sections can solev vertical menu (fixed,scrollable) too.

[wujekbogdan]

It would be great if there was a container-like element that could be extended using the API.

It would be even greater if child components could receive data from a parent component (like components received data via props in Vue or React)

Thanks to this feature we would be able to perform queries by parent components and pass down the data to child components.

https://github.com/elementor/elementor/issues/6625

[gwmbox]

+1

When creating and using Tabs and Accordions there is currently no 'easy' way to use content widgets within them. This is a major feature that needs to be fixed so they can be used as content areas.

Just like adding content widgets to a page content, those same widgets should be allowed to be used in Tabs and Accordions as if they were pages in their own right.

The only way for now is to create a section template, which is not the correct solution.

I am surprised this is not already available.

Look forward for this to be available very soon.

[aalani95]

+1

Much needed!!

[autumncorvus]

+1 Amazed this isn't already a feature.

[andrijanasv]

+1 also very surprised, amazed and annoyed this isn't already a feature!

[bentalgad]

+1 This is a very basic feature. the current "choose template" way is unpagebuildery and it makes our back end work really slow and the front end performance really slow either.

Btw it works great in oxygen and brizy.

[kaoecoito]

+1 This is a very basic feature.
I create many components for my use and not having the option of a nested component is very bad

[taoguangc]

+1 This is the biggest shortcoming of elementor!
Templates are created to increase efficiency, not slow down.

[bentalgad]

See how easy it is in Brizy builder (even columns inside...):

And you can have unlimited nested columns and tabs (heaven).

[beezio]

+1

[wasbone]

So many people require, Focus please.

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+1

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[wujekbogdan]

If you finally implement it, please implement it as a general purpose solution - I mean not only for the modules mentioned in this ticket name but for all the modules.

I'd like to be able to register a custom component that already has a drag-n-drop area but I failed. I tried to achieve it extending the \Elementor\Element_Column but it turns out that this class is not supposed to be extended.

[starshunter88]

+1 all the content fields should be widgetized, having just text fields limits the power of elementor widgets? :)

[aspoonemore]

+1 - This is a huge deal for me

[kneops]

A big +1

I also need this for a project I'm working on. Tabs with different content, like already possible with this plugin, but I don't like the responsiveness of this plugin.
https://www.templatemonster.com/demo/69512.html

So it should be able to add columns and different kinds of content under each widget.

[luiszg]

Hello, I'm really excited about Elementor. I have the pro version but not having this feature has made me return to my old visual composer. I think I have lost my license purchase since it is absurd that this great plugin does not have this issue solved. Definitely the TABS and Accordions should be containers and should be able to accommodate rows and columns there.

For now, I'm giving up on Elementor and I will return to this topic in a few months to see if they have already made this improvement.

[ghost]

I am struggling with this problem so much atm. I have a page that uses tabs as a cool way to view content but creating 20+ templates for one page is crazy and definitely not best practice or optimized for future editing! Please add this feature!!!

@shilo-ey is this still something being worked on?

[m2sahin]

When will this feature come?
We're tired of waiting.

[Gozubohca]

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[ProtoThemes]

+1 please !
This is essential! We are waiting since 2017.

[antoine-piarou]

+1 basic need

[cceglia]

+1 !!!!

[dhirnitish]

This is still needed. Waiting on this since Jul, 2016.

[taoguangc]

If this problem cannot be solved, elementor will eventually have a hard time defeating WPBakery in terms of market share.

[ogalinski]

+1

I love Elementor, but this is a serious shortcoming. Solving it with a template shortcode works OK for one nesting level, but for two levels it gets tedious. Can't imagine how it is for three+ levels.

Elementor needs this.

[designworksinteractive]

please please need this for project atm

[beezio]

Any news on this feature?

[black-eye]

Please, please! I'm having hard times on recent client's web, which depeds heavily on tabs and accordions with complicated structure. So far I have to use extra templates, which is really complicated even for me, not to mention non experienced end users.

This is one of the most requested and oldest features here, yet there was not a single reply from developers, apart "not possible now, you can use templates" in the begining. Please at least tell us, if it's coming or not. There's nothing you should hide from the competitors here, it isn't some secret magical feature, most of them already has it.

[luiszg]

Please. Help us with this feature. Please give us an answer about this.

[idealsud]

+1
We need this basic feature.

[MarcelHeiniger]

Just add inner section

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we need multiple rows in one section

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[sf-steve]

This would be immensely helpful for client sites, ideally by creating a 'dropzone' control that can be included like a regular control in custom widgets.

At the moment we either use the template widget (for our own stuff - this is not a good UX so cant be used for client sites), or create a ton of very similar custom widgets, which clutters the UI and still doesnt solve the list / accordion problem.

There was a pull request from a regular contributor last year that looks like it was working towards this:

https://github.com/elementor/elementor/pull/6045/

But it got closed.

I'm not going to post some whining threat about leaving if this doesnt get added, because frankly nothing out there compares to Elementor for easy of use and extendability, but i would really really like this added, or some feedback as to why it isnt going to be.

Thanks

[antoine-piarou]

+1 we need this. Elementor can't do complexe layout today.

[LauGau]

One more reason of why I like Oxygen...
Come on Elementor it's a core feature !

[delvasse]

Please inner section inside inner section !
Send Elementor to the level it deserves.

[Rwarlock]

Yes, Please. Inner Section inside inner section is a need. It will make Elementor so much powerful.

[jotcreative]

Just took over a website and saw that they had sections nested in sections. Silly me, I thought I'd be smart and convert the sections to "inner sections," which they should be (right?). That's when I discovered that I can't nest inner sections. No idea how they had sections nested, as it seems I can't return it to the way it was either.

[diegovogel]

Just took over a website and saw that they had sections nested in sections. Silly me, I thought I'd be smart and convert the sections to "inner sections," which they should be (right?). That's when I discovered that I can't nest inner sections. No idea how they had sections nested, as it seems I can't return it to the way it was either.

The nested sections may have been templates. I think if you save a section as a template then you can nest it inside other sections with the template shortcode.

[Booza1981]

This is the feature I'm looking for. Shame I'll have to use another page builder for the project.

[nguiard]

+1 please, I need it and am not the only one apparently! This is a huge deal, I just discovered that you can't do that basic thing even with Elementor Pro... You can just nest divs any way you want when coding html, it's super easy and one of the most basic things Elementor should be able to do. I'm kind of baffled this is still not available, I'm even considering a page builder switch seeing as this is still not available even after 2 years of people requesting it here...

[pwnoobz]

+1 lacking this feature kinda sucks

[TomRaraAvis]

+1 I need to build directly inside tabs widget without going in & out of templates and having to keep track of shortcodes. This takes so much time & gets messy/confusing.

[HQRaja]

Brizy does it really well from the very start. With all the resources at its disposal, why can't Elementor pull this off?

[diegovogel]

Brizy does it really well from the very start. With all the resources at its disposal, why can't Elementor pull this off?

They are too busy making pre-built pages and layouts. -_______-
Elementor seems to be turning into more of a theme bundle than a page builder.

[emeraldsama]

+1 On this. It's silly this basic feature is still missing 2 YEARS on. Focus on what Elementor does and how it works, rather than how it looks. We can design it, if we can nest it. ;)

[srack835]

+1 for this functionality, with the option to use it as a slider—dynamic content for a slider is a much needed functionality!

[black-eye]

It's really sad, that after 2 years we still don't have more than 2 nested sections, so other developers and expences are needed to achieve such a basic functionality. See how Happy Addons done their Unlimited Section Nesting recently.

Gentle devs at Elementor, please wake up! Don't let your competitors overtake you!

[ghost]

hi @black-eye That's a different issue. This is for nested sections within tabs/accordions, which is also crazy we don't have it yet.

[black-eye]

hi @gloriahar, actually, it belongs here. Although most comments are for sections in tabs/accordion or so, many issues for nested sections/columns were closed in favour of this one (#6917, #4176, #6625, #7013, #4176, ...).

Yes, not very transparent and clear, but it seems it's connected somehow.

[taropaa]

+1 Why is this not implemented yet? Is there some law that says you can't nest more than 2 layout elements (column > inner section)? It's an unnecessary sacrifice

[srack835]

+1 for this with tabs/accordions, etc. @black-eye to your point, apparently a lot is connected to this.
Issue 9135 was closed in favor of this— having slides with nested sections/columns so the sliders are customizable and able to use dynamic content.

[tristanleboss]

Slowly but surely, Gutenberg will reach Elementor....
https://wordpress.org/plugins/coblocks/

[JonBerlin]

+1
I just bought Elementor Pro and now I realize that this basic function is missing! Is there a workaround for it?

[diegovogel]

+1
I just bought Elementor Pro and now I realize that this basic function is missing! Is there a workaround for it?

Get a refund and buy Oxygen page builder XD
Jokes aside, you can save sections as templates and then put them inside other sections/elements with the built-in shortcodes. Not an elegant solution by any means, and I haven't tried it myself, but it should work in theory at least.

[srack835]

@diegovogel it does work in theory, but you can't control the height of nested content. If you are making a slider-style section, each slide is a completely different size. Plus, making all the templates makes updating content crazy complicated. It's a hacky fix for anyone who really needs this now and doesn't care much about styling.

[black-eye]

@JonBerlin, @diegovogel I can confirm, that it works in practice too, but it's not intuitive, nor practical and as @srack835 wrote, it's supermessy to maintain.

It's a real shame: you buy a product to make your work easier and finally you end up with desperate hacks like these. And unfortunately this is not the one and only. Elementor is a really nice product, but sometimes I just don't get the developers' attitude on the long term massively requested features like this one.

[diegovogel]

sometimes I just don't get the developers' attitude on the long term massively requested features like this one

Yeah I'm with you there. I've noticed they've been releasing a lot of prebuilt templates lately. I'm wondering if they've shifted focus to providing prebuilt stuff that can then be modified and expanded with the page builder. Rather than focusing on a tool for building truly custom/complex layouts.

[tristanleboss]

Elementor business model was never oritented on power users, developpers. It seems to be oriented toward mainstream users. Sadly, I can't blame them: we (power users and developpers) represents a small subset of Elementor users :( I mean they make enough money without these features so why develop them?

It explains why they don't communicate with us: they have nothing to say and can't really say "yes, you're not our target...". The developers documentation and api have been really poor too. Most plugins for Elementor are widgets packs. There is not a lot of plugins that really extends Elementor functionnalities or add missing features.

[black-eye]

@tristanleboss Agreed with you, that we can't blame Elementor for being more oriented on basic users (that's the reason, why they are no. 1).

On the other hand, I don't find this feature advanced, it's the basic one (I agree with @JonBerlin's reaction, he even hasn't expected it's not possible). Elementor is actually one the few page builders which still haven't sorted this out. Visual Composer/Bakery's got it, Thrive Architect's got it, Brizy's got it, not to mention Oxygen. Not sure about Divi and BB, they have it propably the same way as Elementor.

But what's saddening me most is the lack of communication from the devs. Most of the messages from the team are their own marketing promos, where everything is mind-blowing, breath-taking, game-changing and class-leading. And then you realize this... ;-)

Ok, I'll stop it. ;-) I didn't mean to vent here, I just hope in all honesty that the devs still read this thread and understand, that this feature is relevant and widely requested.

[tristanleboss]

@black-eye I have been really disapointed by Elementor because many features used to really use it professionnaly are lacking: this one, styles preset, different background image for mobile, ...

I don't thnik they ever read these issues... and yes, the lack of communication is horrible but as said previously, what would they say? I mean, they have no plan to implements our features: it never has been on their roadmap (which they never published, btw).

They need competitors to move... too bad none (like Oxygen) understand the power of acquiring users with a free version like Elementor and ACF did.

[sf-steve]

@tristanleboss I wouldnt say they have no plans to implement these type of features.
For a start, different background images for mobile/tablet is already implemented.
And as i mentioned in an earlier comment on this issue, there was a PR from a regular contributer (probably a team member) that looked very much like it was the first step in fixing this particular issue (nested widgets / dropzones in widgets).

Its far more likely that this is a complex feature to add into an existing very popular product (backwards compatibility is hard), and as you and others have mentioned, the relative commercial value is low.

I agree 100% on communication though, not knowing if something is months or years away (or ruled out as nonviable) IS frustrating.

[lukaszluczak]

I am glad I have reached this thread just before I was to buy Elementor Pro. Fortunately my theme supports other builders so I have a chance to use something else.

[computerfreak84]

+1

[oddlots]

Add our company to the list of those exploring other options due to a lack of communication. I'm glad that I came across the series of issues that all come down to nesting sections / columns issues.

FWIW, Our desired use case was to give nice editable 9-slice borders around other widgets without the client needing to write css. It fits with the more mainstream Elementor philosophy.

[starshunter88]

+1 I’m also transitioning to other solutions because of this and because of the missing breakpoints for landscape devices.
Il 3 dic 2019, 18:16 +0100, Sam [e-mail], ha scritto:

Add our company to the list of those exploring other options due to a lack of communication. I'm glad that I came across the series of issues that all come down to nesting sections / columns issues.
FWIW, Our desired use case was to give nice editable 9-slice borders around other widgets without the client needing to write css. It fits with the more mainstream Elementor philosophy.
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[TomRaraAvis]

I'm still quite desperate for this. 🤞

[brunov99]

+1 nested rows in section.
Please

[MauriceW2]

+1. It's absolutely necessary to nest sections.

[rbatistajs]

+1 nested sections.
please

[itsmillertime65]

Just installed Elementor a couple days ago and a nested section is the first thing I tried. Figured it was such a basic thing that it had to be possible. Then started searching only to find that it's not possible. How has this been an ongoing thing for 3 years? Are the developers not active for this plugin? If not, then I will use Gutenberg as it seems they added this functionality early last year and I'd really hate to pay $250 for a plugin that's not updated as necessary and is missing core features.

[LauGau]

Noway that I use Elementor without more flexibility of nested sections. I cannot accomplish all the layout I have designed... I stay with Oxygen instead.

[starshunter88]

Agree, this is a dealbreaker for me :( it should be a very basic feature, implemented by design.

[elias8808]

Has anyone found a solution to this? , or with some external plugin?

[TomRaraAvis]

Has anyone found a solution to this? , or with some external plugin?

No solution from Elementor development team. We are still all using shortcodes and pasting into Tab / Accordion / Toggle Widgets. It's pretty rough if you use them a lot. 😞

[brunov99]

Check here for some tricks on column arrangement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpLS6L5sVlc
I don't understand why the folks at elementor didn't develop this obvious functionality. It's a bp which means that many designers are still using tools like WPBakery or Divi.

[elias8808]

Check here for some tricks on column arrangement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpLS6L5sVlc
I don't understand why the folks at elementor didn't develop this obvious functionality. It's a bp which means that many designers are still using tools like WPBakery or Divi.

I just found a solution at the moment, it is very good and very customizable. from another plugin that does the same thing that you show in the video but in a few clicks and very customizable. in the same way you have to create the sections in templates but it is much faster than copying and pasting shortcodes

[MauriceW2]

I just found a solution at the moment, it is very good and very customizable. from another plugin that does the same thing that you show in the video but in a few clicks and very customizable. in the same way you have to create the sections in templates but it is much faster than copying and pasting shortcodes

Which plugin is that?

[elias8808]

I just found a solution at the moment, it is very good and very customizable. from another plugin that does the same thing that you show in the video but in a few clicks and very customizable. in the same way you have to create the sections in templates but it is much faster than copying and pasting shortcodes

Which plugin is that?

Jettabs of crocoblocks

[jorgept]

+1 for it

[Maximus97]

+1, this might be a dealbreaker for me whether I go for Elementor Pro or switch to Oxygen.

[starshunter88]

+1
Il 25 mar 2020, 20:18 +0100, Maximus97 [e-mail], ha scritto:

+1
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[dimoteca]

+1

[starshunter88]

Any updates on this feature?

This bug is been active for almost 3 years.

It would be nice to know if this feature is on the roadmap. :)

[r0b1n1sl4m]

For every Elementor users who have missed the multiple level nesting so badly. I've released a very light plugin at WordPress.org to add unlimited nested sections in Elementor.
https://wordpress.org/plugins/unlimited-elementor-inner-sections-by-taspristudio
Please check out the plugin and leave your feedback guys!

[r0b1n1sl4m]

I’m extremely sorry for forgetting the most important thing and not writing the usage guide.

Actually the usage of this plugin quite straight forward. Go to edit a page with Elementor, right-click over the column, and there you will see the Add Nested Section menu. Click on the menu item and you should have a nested section. I'll update the readme shortly...

Thanks,
Robin

[codeorlov]

this is a very necessary function, which is simply a must. +1 for dragging widgets directly to tabs!

[codeorlov]

I can’t believe that the problem is three years old? Do developers generally consider this thread?

[sf-steve]

We are hoping this becomes a reality with version 3, but are hedging by converting our template library to gutenburg as well. Elementor is currently a far better editing experience for most use cases, but gutenburg has the momentum, and this lack of nested widgets (dropzone / content box control) is a major issue, resulting in either a ton of duplicated code (multiple very similar widgets, no ability to paste styles), or the rather awful template shortcodes / edit over multiple screens workflow, that is not at all suitable for client projects

[tiagoefreitas]

This is a must-have and ridiculous its not implemented in the Pro version..
The only reason I don't switch to Oxygen over this is because Oxygen doesn't play well to mix with custom themes

[kikofernandez0]

+1 to this feature.

As a workaround, there is a trick / hack to nest unlimited inner sections. No additional plugins, and it works in the elementos free version. Kudos to Danny Junkle for this tip.

Hope it helps:
Which Addons: Unlimited Inner Sections

[neoflashx]

It's going to be 3 years now.. why is this not implemented yet? It's clearly one of the most requested features...

[MauriceW2]

I've had it completely with Elementor. I'm done with them.

Their extreme lack of interest in their customers wishes, PLUS the huge problem that they do not test their updates well enough, which resulted in a ZERO-DAY vulnerability is UNACCEPTABLE.

Due to Elementor's lack of interest in their customers and the security of their products made me switch over to Thrive Architect.

Thrive recently released their Theme Builder.

I'm now in the process of rebuilding all my websites in Thrive. They offer what Elementor is missing and much more. Glad I did.

Goodbye Elementor.

[neoflashx]

Thrive doesn't look better at all..

[DomGrieco]

I've had it completely with Elementor. I'm done with them.

Their extreme lack of interest in their customers wishes, PLUS the huge problem that they do not test their updates well enough, which resulted in a ZERO-DAY vulnerability is UNACCEPTABLE.

Due to Elementor's lack of interest in their customers and the security of their products made me switch over to Thrive Architect.

Thrive recently released their Theme Builder.

I'm now in the process of rebuilding all my websites in Thrive. They offer what Elementor is missing and much more. Glad I did.

Goodbye Elementor.

Thanks for the mention of Thrive, I will check them out. I personally refunded Elementor back in 2017 shortly after submitting this feature request. The management of the Elementor project is an example of how to NOT operate your software development company when you give your users this level of access to feedback.

[howdy0420]

not sure about the nested sections but everything else is and has been
implemented... The drag and drop functionality just needs a couple little
setting changed; drag to the bottom of page widget, go to advanced setting
and change position to absolute and you might also have to change z index
setting depending on how the page is set up. Then smooth sailing. All the
other features are there, I believe they have been for a while but i just
updated today and they are for a fact. There is always a workaround or
implementation somewhere if you just search for it... I have used
different plugins and had a lot more frustrations than with elementor. If
you want that extra customization you gotta find a way. I give Elementor
a 👍. Try the community on their website, watch one of their tutorials and
you will find some the answers to the questions i see on here.

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:48 AM iDoMnCi [e-mail] wrote:

I've had it completely with Elementor. I'm done with them.

Their extreme lack of interest in their customers wishes, PLUS the huge
problem that they do not test their updates well enough, which resulted in
a ZERO-DAY vulnerability is UNACCEPTABLE.

Due to Elementor's lack of interest in their customers and the security of
their products made me switch over to Thrive Architect.

Thrive recently released their Theme Builder.

I'm now in the process of rebuilding all my websites in Thrive. They offer
what Elementor is missing and much more. Glad I did.

Goodbye Elementor.

Thanks for the mention of Thrive, I will check them out. I personally
refunded Elementor back in 2017 shortly after submitting this feature
request. The management of the Elementor project is an example of how to
NOT operate your software development company when you give your users this
level of access to feedback.

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[neoflashx]

It's a big issue having to edit templates every time I need something put in Tabs. workaround takes far too much time.. but still I like the product wont switch to Thrive which has no community, no options or anything

[TomRaraAvis]

me editing any page with multiple tabs and complex templates

[hellopas]

Three years later and I'm tired of creating my own HTML blocks to get around this. How is this acceptable for such a widely used product?

[EricJammin]

3+ years later and still no ability to do nested columns? Seriously?

This is just like the responsive breakpoints issue.

What exactly are we paying money for every year for when you simply don't add basic functionalities that every single other grid system / framework has had in place for years?

[hellopas]

@EricJammin It feels like they just muted the thread and stop giving any cares. Probably because they are making enough money off of us (and new users).

[codeorlov]

@shilo-ey, @bainternet #11551, why don't they respond to the topic for more than 3 years in a row? Give adequate feedback to your users. You have released an update with lottie animations that are totally useless. By now, the necessary functional is not considered! Please give feedback on this topic, what has been done in 3 years in this direction, except for linking a bunch of identical topics in 1?

[kneops]

@codeorlov , that is a general issue / thing with some companies, lack of response and communication. I have experienced this with several other software makers and made me look for other software in the end. I really like Elementor, but even a direct Pro support question lacks answers sometimes.

[howdy0420]

drag and drop editing is possible by changing said objects position to
absolute and setting the z index accordingly, I already replied to this
once. Hopefully you all get it this time. 😎

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@codeorlov https://github.com/codeorlov , that is a general issue /
thing with some companies, lack of response and communication. I have
experienced this with several other software makers and made me look for
other software in the end. I really like Elementor, but even a direct Pro
support question lacks answers sometimes.

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[codeorlov]

@howdy0420 ,Could you record a short video? I tried, but still can’t just drag and drop widgets into tabs.

[sf-steve]

@howdy0420 ,Could you record a short video? I tried, but still can’t just drag and drop widgets into tabs.

You cant, the z-index method is just a hack, to layer a widget over the top of another one. It cannot be used for tabs, accordions, slides, or anything with dynamic visibility, which is what this feature request is about.

Implementing this feature would require creating a new widget control, that functions like an inner section (called a dropzone control in similar software). Work on this looked like it was starting at the end of last year, but the pull request never got merged.

Edit, not the end of last year, the end of 2018: https://github.com/elementor/elementor/pull/6045

[howdy0420]

drag the widget to the bottom of the page like any other, change advanced settings position to absolute, nay need to change z index... if that doesn't work, be more specific and ill c what i can do

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[neoflashx]

drag and drop editing is possible by changing said objects position to absolute and setting the z index accordingly, I already replied to this once. Hopefully you all get it this time. 😎
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doesn't make sense.. tabs offer a "different window" the z index will just hover over the entire tab widget. What we need is simple:

Tabs Widget
Tab 1
Section> Inner Section

Tab 2
Section> Inner Section

Tab 3
Section> Inner Section

Right now it's:

Tab 1
Section

Tab 2
Section

Tab 3
Section

You'll need inner sections if you want to have one section with one column and another with different number of columns.. for example section one has 1 column with text, section 2 has 2 columns one with text and one with image (this is just one example)

[antoine-piarou]

There is the ability to update the header and the footer directly in the page since 2 version, i'm sure in 3.0 we'll can update every template in the page.

[codeorlov]

@antoine-piarou about it makes no sense, it is inconvenient. On my site with 20 pages there should be tabs with 15 aacordions each, count how many templates should I create?

[elias8808]

I also had this problem, to solve it use the widget "classic accordion" of jet plugins, what I do is create a "section" in elementor with all the elements that I will have inside the accordion, then I go to another page and drag the widget classic accordion, and within the options of the widget I select my section and that way I could nest it. what I was doing was a menu for a car website, this menu had many nested filters, to search by brand, km, model, etc. I had to create 17 sections in total. each section was a filter. Stupid, but I had to deliver the site as quickly as possible. It is disrespectful that elementor does not take these user threads seriously, they just want to make money and that's it.

[catherinewiltshire]

This feature is so needed, the amount of projects I have had to completely change the way I wanted to do them as embedding saved templates within accordions etc. is just too restrictive/time consuming in terms of keeping content up to date. To be able to make changes to the content within the tabs/accordion/toggles/slides on the page editor would make using elementor so much easier.

This thread is knocking my confidence in elementor, if features like this requested over 3 years ago are not getting attention how can we put confidence into using elementor in the future. I don't know if I want to keep paying my pro subscription if issues like this just get ignored.

[zachkinsey]

Right. I also need this functionality. -_-

Whoever makes decisions on what functionality gets added to Elementor and when needs to wake the f*ck up and learn how to prioritize functionality correctly.

For example, Lottie animations.....

This is a PAGE BUILDER.

Therefore, it PRIMARILY needs to help users build their desired Layouts over everything else.

[AbrahamBrookes]

+1 none of these wordpress page builders are getting it right. Just let me insert the html tag that _I_ want to insert and stop pouring your treacly mess of a layout system on me.

[codeorlov]

Hey guys, there is an announcement of version 3.0, and no news about this? @bainternet, please, comment, do not ignore your customers!

[sf-steve]

Do we have any indication this is earmarked for a future release? We have just had to start another 2 projects in Gutenberg because of the poor editing experiance for tabbed / nested content. We started using Elementor because of the excellent developer docs, but are increasingly worried that it is becoming more and more focused on the DIY market

[vallerydelexy]

2020 said hi

[LauGau]

+1 none of these wordpress page builders are getting it right. Just let me insert the html tag that _I_ want to insert and stop pouring your treacly mess of a layout system on me.

If I have to choose only one page builder it will be Oxygen. You will be able natively to nest the widgets, add your own HTML/CSS directly and even PHP.

Elementor didn't fixed the div bloat... ok I can understand.
That they don't even allow nested inner sections ? In 3 years ? That they don't even dare answering ?
What a joke !

[rodolphebertozzo]

+1

[odedta]

+1

[Panagiotis-Kouvelis]

That would be great to create drawer-like sections that carry filters for product catalogs, etc. Also it would be awesome for e-learning, if the accordion would be able to carry sections with resources that the students are not required to browse initially, so by hiding them in the lesson page it could lessen their cognitive load, helping information absorption (aka learning).

[feidaman]

+1 pleeeeeeeeease

[mironbalcerzak]

+1

[sunnyt7]

+1000! upvote blows off into the darkness

[zachkinsey]

My work-around for this feature is to create an Elementor Template with your desired elements, and then place the Template shortcode inside the Text Editor. It's a decent work-around, but may require custom CSS to get the styling right.

[odedta]

My work-around for this feature is to create an Elementor Template with your desired elements, and then place the Template shortcode inside the Text Editor. It's a decent work-around, but may require custom CSS to get the styling right.

Sure, you can do that (these days), but the whole point of this thread is to NOT create separate templates in separate locations and then use shortcodes, this is an old method. Elementor 3 has presented a new Theme Builder and a way to edit any section of the page without having to go back to the dashboard, this is how the workflow should be.
Now if those areas would become editable it would make things a lot easier and streamline the process.

[wwdes]

+1