Anki-android: Add support for profiles

[hssm]

Originally reported on Google Code with ID 1643

Anki 2.0 supports having different profiles for different users.
This also allows a user to split their decks between different collections.

I built a prototype of this and it seems quite simple.
The prototype is based on using different preference files.

Reported by flerda on 2013-01-26 01:18:26

[hssm]

Great :-)

Reported by nicolas.raoul on 2013-01-26 05:59:36

• Labels added: Priority-Medium
• Labels removed: Priority-Low, Milestone-Release2.0.1

[hssm]

Reported by nicolas.raoul on 2013-01-26 06:07:35

• Labels added: Milestone-Release2.1

[hssm]

I'm using this app for myself and for my young son & it would really help to split up
the decks into different profiles so I can keep the alerts and reminders separate.
It's not feasible to have a device set up purely for an account for my son, and giving
him a separate ankiweb account doesn't give me the control I want, as well as being
'another' account to manage.

Hopefully this change would also mean that you could set a different widget for each
profile.

Reported by leejkennedy on 2014-06-17 21:01:15

[hssm]

Almost two years since the initial comment. Is there a branch with the prototype/WIP
on github or in the wild or anything?

Reported by clayton.hughes on 2014-10-22 05:45:09

[hssm]

No, there is no branch for this or prototype to look at the moment.
I have put together something quickly to see if it was feasible,
but have not looked at it since.

Reported by flerda on 2014-10-22 07:08:46

[hssm]

We're currently recommending users who want this feature to do this:
https://code.google.com/p/ankidroid/wiki/FAQ#How_to_use_different_Anki_profiles

Reported by perceptualchaos2 on 2014-10-22 08:35:10

[hssm]

Thanks for the workaround #6. The parallel builds are outside of the store,and so won't
receive regular updates?

#5 I'm confused. Is the prototype lost? You've said twice that it existed, but also
claim that it doesn't (I wasn't asking about a binary, convenient as that would be).

Reported by clayton.hughes on 2014-10-22 19:54:06

[hssm]

To be honest, I am not sure where the files are at the moment.
I might or might not still have a copy of them. The files were not
checked into github or anything like that.

Anyway, it was not in a state that could be shared: it is based on a mix
of a modified app and some shell scripts, and switching profiles requires
a rooted device and running commands via adb. It was sufficient to prove
that the method I suggested above (based on different preference files)
is feasible, but it is not something that can be actually used, or that I
would like to share at the moment.

An actual implementation would not be based on that implementation
actually, but would probably be done from scratch.

Reported by flerda on 2014-10-22 20:07:16

[hssm]

Issue 1991 has been merged into this issue.

Reported by Houssam.Salem.Au on 2015-05-29 03:00:35

[MatthiasKauer]

We're currently recommending users who want this feature to do this:
https://code.google.com/p/ankidroid/wiki/FAQ#How_to_use_different_Anki_profiles

That page no longer exists. Where should we look now?

[flerda]

https://github.com/ankidroid/Anki-Android/wiki/FAQ#how-to-use-different-anki-profiles

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 at 14:22 MatthiasKauer [email protected] wrote:

We're currently recommending users who want this feature to do this:

https://code.google.com/p/ankidroid/wiki/FAQ#How_to_use_different_Anki_profiles

That page no longer exists. Where should we look now?

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[timrae]

I've made a one-time release of 3 parallel builds for v2.5beta16:
https://github.com/ankidroid/Anki-Android/releases/tag/v2.5beta16

These will probably not be updated in the future, but I've created a bash script that you can use to easily make your own parallel builds in the future.

[langug]

This is really an important feature. I hope it will soon be integrated in the normal version of AnkiDroid.

[michalpravda]

For me it is by far the most important missing feature, don't know how to "vote it up"

[timrae]

There isn't a way to vote issues up and open source developers don't tend to work on features based on their popularity anyway (rather on issues that are fun or personally useful for them). If the feature is really important to you, I'd suggest offering a bounty to give developers a financial incentive.

[michalpravda]

Thanks for the reply, I have in the meantime experimented with your parallel builds and after some struggling made that work. The most (and the only) non-obvious thing being the necessity to change the collection location in each (well, in "n-1") parallel build.
I'm willing to pay about 5$ for the parallel builds and another 10 as a thank you for the application, but:

1. don't know if it would please you or you would feel offended since it is such a small amount
2. don't know how to easily do it (have Paypal, card - have been searching a way for ten minutes now)

[timrae]

@michalpravda

It's not possible to donate directly to AnkiDroid, but if there is a specific feature that you would like to incentivize developers to work on, there are sites where you can set a "bounty". Even if you can only pledge a small amount, others may also pledge something which together could form enough to motivate a developer.

I've never used it before, but https://www.bountysource.com/ appears to be one popular website for doing this.

[mikehardy]

@timrae are you still interested in merging changes to support multiple profiles in AnkiDroid? I'm going to do a parallel build first (I could do 2 or 3 and publish those as well if there is interest...) but since it would affect UI (for switching) plus lots of storage stuff I don't even want to think much about it if there's no interest...

[timrae]

@Mike Hardy

Yes, definitely interested in merging profile support if done right!

On 12/12/2017 22:26, "Mike Hardy" [e-mail] wrote:

@timrae https://github.com/timrae are you still interested in merging
changes to support multiple profiles in AnkiDroid? I'm going to do a
parallel build first (I could do 2 or 3 and publish those as well if there
is interest...) but since it would affect UI (for switching) plus lots of
storage stuff I don't even want to think much about it if there's no
interest...

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@Mike Hardy

I'm interested as well. I have three parallel 2.5beta16 on my phone. Used
weekly by me and my kids. Would be interested in more up to date parallel
builds if the profile feature didn't work out.

2017-12-12 15:07 GMT+01:00 Tim Rae [e-mail]:

@Mike Hardy

Yes, definitely interested in merging profile support if done right!

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@timrae https://github.com/timrae are you still interested in merging
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parallel build first (I could do 2 or 3 and publish those as well if
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is interest...) but since it would affect UI (for switching) plus lots of
storage stuff I don't even want to think much about it if there's no
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[mikehardy]

@michalpravda As mentioned I'm first trying to do fresh parallel builds - it's not the most useful work but I'm becoming familiar with mobile development in general and the AnkiDroid codebase specifically at the same time so it's useful for me. Unfortunately I ran into some problems immediately - the parallel builds script had an interaction with the current AndroidStudio build system, and it didn't change the storage directory (leading to confusion others noted). While those were easy then when I built and installed my "AnkiDroid.A" it it didn't work out of the box - as if the startup intent of the system were still referring to "AnkiDroid" instead of "AnkiDroid.A" for instance. My progress is available on a topic branch on my local fork, if any one else has interest as well - my work on it will be pretty intermittent - https://github.com/mikehardy/Anki-Android/tree/parallel1

[michalpravda]

@mikehardy - I have no experience with mobile development, but I do
remember that it took me some time to configure the builds I had received
from @TimRae. The problem was that all instances pointed to the same path
for storing the collection's data. Once I manually set it to different
paths (ankidroid - settings - ?advanced? - ?path to collection? (I
use localized version and now just guessing the menu entries)) it began to
work flawlessly. Maybe that's your missing piece?!

2017-12-13 17:54 GMT+01:00 Mike Hardy [e-mail]:

@michalpravda https://github.com/michalpravda As mentioned I'm first
trying to do fresh parallel builds - it's not the most useful work but I'm
becoming familiar with mobile development in general and the AnkiDroid
codebase specifically at the same time so it's useful for me. Unfortunately
I ran into some problems immediately - the parallel builds script had an
interaction with current the AndroidStudio build system, it didn't change
the storage directory (leading to confusion others noted), and while those
were easy then when I installed it it didn't work out of the box - as if
some part of the system were still referring to "AnkiDroid" instead of
"AnkiDroid.A" for instance. My progress is available on a topic branch on
my local fork, if any one else has interest as well - my work on it will be
pretty intermittent - https://github.com/mikehardy/
Anki-Android/tree/parallel1

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[mikehardy]

Yeah I saw that comment earlier about the confusion there and updated the parallel build script to change that storage directory in each build as well, I'm having some other thing, I'm sure it is basic and Ill learn something...

[timrae]

I don't think that's something we'd want to change upstream in the script,
but if it helps you to figure out the code then by all means.

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Yeah I saw that comment earlier about the confusion there and updated the
parallel build script to change that storage directory in each build as
well, I'm having some other thing, I'm sure it is basic and Ill learn
something...

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[mikehardy]

Hmm - Looking at the effects of different storage locations will definitely help me figure out persistence as I learn where everything is stored in order to implement separate sync accounts / decks, but I’m curious on the stance of not merging a storage directory change in the parallel builds script upstream - only because I can only think of one use case one would want parallel builds, and that’s to have separate decks etc so that they can simulate different profiles with different users. If (big if) that is the only use case, than it makes sense for the parallel builds to also have parallel storage. But, I could be wrong for a number of reasons - I could be missing a use case, violating principle of least surprise, or simply proposing something that smells bad for reasons I’m unaware

[timrae]

@mikehardy

I can only think of one use case one would want parallel builds, and that’s to have separate decks etc so that they can simulate different profiles with different users

Yes that's a fair assumption, I guess was I just imagining some horrible hack, but it doesn't actually look that difficult to do it properly.

[mikehardy]

I have created a pull request with the changes from my fork's parallel2 branch that seem to correctly generate backwards-compatible parallel builds with separate storage directories for fresh installs now. I have generated up to date packages on my local fork from this work and made a release of them.

If others are interested in testing up-to-date parallel builds and are willing to accept the consequences of testing untrusted forked alpha code ;-), please check them out:
https://github.com/mikehardy/Anki-Android/releases/tag/v2.9alpha16

They aren't perfect but I noted the issues on the release page, and they do work for me.

However, please please do not log any issues or otherwise create any work for @timrae or other real developers as a result of them. They are convenience only for others on this issue, and I'll pull them if they cause any problems whatsoever, or if the main project here doesn't like them

That said, if they work or don't and you have useful feedback I'd be interested to know.

Next up for me is to think about actually implementing multiple profiles.

[mikehardy]

Future implementation of this should take into account grouping notification channels by profile now that we support channels: #4922

[madmanpierre]

@timrae are you still interested in merging changes to support multiple profiles in AnkiDroid? I'm going to do a parallel build first (I could do 2 or 3 and publish those as well if there is interest...) but since it would affect UI (for switching) plus lots of storage stuff I don't even want to think much about it if there's no interest...

I currently don't use the Android, I just use my laptop. I have 4 kids in the learning to read level, and I would love to be able to use my Android phone reasonably. I tried the parallel build but really didn't try hard due to not quite understanding and decided to wait until it was an official feature, and just use my laptop for now.

And to be honest, my real fear is: If I start using an alternative, and then the project moves on but the 'hack' does not, then it would be very frustrating. So I guess my real fear in trying a hack is that it may be a short term advantage followed by great disappointment. (Consider for example the one person who says he has a working solution, but if people - in other words people I have no control over - cause problems, then he will pull it, and I'll be left in the lurch.)

[mikehardy]

@madmanpierre I can understand the fear of a rug being pulled from you, but I can say (as the person currently publishing modern parallel releases) that the "hack" really can't matter much. Either it syncs successfully to a separate AnkiWeb account or it doesn't, right? So in the future if it's implemented any other way and sync (one of the key features in this app) works, you'll just re-sync.

The only problem I could see for you is that I only do 3 extra install builds when I generate parallel releases, and you have 4 kids! Maybe I could add one... :-)

Literally all the parallel build is doing is making a separate Android app package name, so you can maintain a separate preference file, then in that preferences you define a separate AnkiDroid directory, thereby keeping your collections separate.

I only have one kid, but I use it for exactly this case.

[madmanpierre]

Thanks Mike. If you could add one more that would be nice ! Lots of useless but MAYBE interesting info:

I've been using Anki personally for over 10 years (and did give my cash donation, it was well worth it). I've been using it for learning French, Spanish, computer commands and every other misc 'minor' thing I want to memorize. I have 10's of thousands of cards in my active decks. (and I have them all intermixed by grouping the decks to review, I find it helps get my learning solid when it jumps between French, Spanish, Linux, Windows, Misc Facts etc.., during my, normally 30 minute a day period, adding about 5 'facts to memorize' a day.)

My wife and I are foster parents. We have had 4 kids in our care for several years (all since birth), the oldest is grade 1, the youngest a couple years behind, the youngest ones wanted to use the 'same thing' that my grade one daughter is using to learn how to read.

In my kid's case, the front and back of cards are identical because I am the arbitrator of whether they have read and understood (there/their, by/bye etc..,) the word correctly. But it is SO nice to let Anki worry about the timing of the cards - so much better than flash cards.

As a specific for how good it was. My 6 year old was working with Mom and adult big sister for almost a month and, using flash cards, had learned to read only two words by sight. I offered to take over, put all the sight words into Anki, and my daughter learned 40 words in less than a week, and has been learning now at 4x's the rate the school is asking for - and she uses (with me) Anki only about 5 minutes a day, been doing it for a month now, and she has never made a mistake on a word after it gets left for 7 days, so I KNOW she is learning them solid.

So … if that motivates you to add a 4th extra build … I assure you the facts are all true! In any event, over the holidays I'll set up at least the 3 extras then and feel comfortable sitting on the rug. Thanks.

[mikehardy]

@madmanpierre I'm a sucker for any parent putting in the work :-). I'm having roughly the same experience with my 7 year old - regular flash cards? Oh the pain. AnkiDroid? Just a few minutes a day while waiting in line or something. Huge progress.

I increased the parallel build count to 5, just in case. Happy holidays

https://github.com/mikehardy/Anki-Android/releases

Eventually I'm going to implement the feature for real but it's a functional band-aid at least, though you will have to update them manually. Also, yes they are alphas but I use them daily - we are very close to a 2.9 beta then release cycle.

[michalpravda]

@madmanpierre - Impressive. .... how do you get/choose those 'facts to
memorize'?

I use Anki solely for teaching my kids English as a second language. My
kids mostly arbitrate themselves (the 11y daughter cheats sometimes, the 7y
son never). I've got anki[droid] installed on 7 devices (2pc,1 tablet, 4
phones) and everything works almost perfectly. The only thing not working
as I would imagine is autosyncing after the lesson. Kids usually finish
their batches then press the home button and run a game. Anki gets
"backgrounded" and the sync doesn't happen. Sometimes they even "kill all
running apps". It's no dealbreaker, though.

M

pá 21. 12. 2018 v 6:08 odesílatel peter horwood aka Madman Pierre <
[email protected]> napsal:

Thanks Mike. If you could add one more that would be nice ! Lots of
useless but MAYBE interesting info:

I've been using Anki personally for over 10 years (and did give my cash
donation, it was well worth it). I've been using it for learning French,
Spanish, computer commands and every other misc 'minor' thing I want to
memorize. I have 10's of thousands of cards in my active decks. (and I have
them all intermixed by grouping the decks to review, I find it helps get my
learning solid when it jumps between French, Spanish, Linux, Windows, Misc
Facts etc.., during my, normally 30 minute a day period, adding about 5
'facts to memorize' a day.)

My wife and I are foster parents. We have had 4 kids in our care for
several years (all since birth), the oldest is grade 1, the youngest a
couple years behind, the youngest ones wanted to use the 'same thing' that
my grade one daughter is using to learn how to read.

In my kid's case, the front and back of cards are identical because I am
the arbitrator of whether they have read and understood (there/their,
by/bye etc..,) the word correctly. But it is SO nice to let Anki worry
about the timing of the cards - so much better than flash cards.

As a specific for how good it was. My 6 year old was working with Mom and
adult big sister for almost a month and, using flash cards, had learned to
read only two words by sight. I offered to take over, put all the sight
words into Anki, and my daughter learned 40 words in less than a week, and
has been learning now at 4x's the rate the school is asking for - and she
uses (with me) Anki only about 5 minutes a day, been doing it for a month
now, and she has never made a mistake on a word after it gets left for 7
days, so I KNOW she is learning them solid.

So … if that motivates you to add a 4th extra build … I assure you the
facts are all true! In any event, over the holidays I'll set up at least
the 3 extras then and feel comfortable sitting on the rug. Thanks.

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[madmanpierre]

how do you get/choose those 'facts to memorize'?

Well, first of all, I've used Anki for enough years to have a 'gut feel' for what types of things Anki can help me learn and what it can't realistically help with. I also have a 'gut feel' for what types of things I will need 'help' memorizing - for example, words/phrases/acronyms I will need occasionally but not enough to 'naturally' memorize them.

From there I have 2 main strategies:

*
proactive (when I'm getting into a new area in computers - I run a multinational computer company, I'm the tech lead - I'll go and do some study and put in a few dozen or more words etc.., that it is obvious I'll need to easily work with.)
*
reactive (when I come across a word etc.., the first time that I think fits my profile, and when I come across it the 3rd time even if it didn't seem to fit the proile.)

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@madmanpierre - Impressive. .... how do you get/choose those 'facts to
memorize'?

I use Anki solely for teaching my kids English as a second language. My
kids mostly arbitrate themselves (the 11y daughter cheats sometimes, the 7y
son never). I've got anki[droid] installed on 7 devices (2pc,1 tablet, 4
phones) and everything works almost perfectly. The only thing not working
as I would imagine is autosyncing after the lesson. Kids usually finish
their batches then press the home button and run a game. Anki gets
"backgrounded" and the sync doesn't happen. Sometimes they even "kill all
running apps". It's no dealbreaker, though.

M

pá 21. 12. 2018 v 6:08 odesílatel peter horwood aka Madman Pierre <
[email protected]> napsal:

Thanks Mike. If you could add one more that would be nice ! Lots of
useless but MAYBE interesting info:

I've been using Anki personally for over 10 years (and did give my cash
donation, it was well worth it). I've been using it for learning French,
Spanish, computer commands and every other misc 'minor' thing I want to
memorize. I have 10's of thousands of cards in my active decks. (and I have
them all intermixed by grouping the decks to review, I find it helps get my
learning solid when it jumps between French, Spanish, Linux, Windows, Misc
Facts etc.., during my, normally 30 minute a day period, adding about 5
'facts to memorize' a day.)

My wife and I are foster parents. We have had 4 kids in our care for
several years (all since birth), the oldest is grade 1, the youngest a
couple years behind, the youngest ones wanted to use the 'same thing' that
my grade one daughter is using to learn how to read.

In my kid's case, the front and back of cards are identical because I am
the arbitrator of whether they have read and understood (there/their,
by/bye etc..,) the word correctly. But it is SO nice to let Anki worry
about the timing of the cards - so much better than flash cards.

As a specific for how good it was. My 6 year old was working with Mom and
adult big sister for almost a month and, using flash cards, had learned to
read only two words by sight. I offered to take over, put all the sight
words into Anki, and my daughter learned 40 words in less than a week, and
has been learning now at 4x's the rate the school is asking for - and she
uses (with me) Anki only about 5 minutes a day, been doing it for a month
now, and she has never made a mistake on a word after it gets left for 7
days, so I KNOW she is learning them solid.

So … if that motivates you to add a 4th extra build … I assure you the
facts are all true! In any event, over the holidays I'll set up at least
the 3 extras then and feel comfortable sitting on the rug. Thanks.

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[sudomain]

I'm working on a Anki related profile issue and have a question. I know I can change the AnkiDroid directory via a setting in the "Advanced" tab in preferences. Is the AnkiDroid directory the same as the per profile directories that Anki desktop creates (e.g. ~/.local/share/Anki2/User 1 )? At the very least it seems similar in structure (collection.anki2, collection.media, etc.)

I'm only asking because I have been able to install Anki 2.1 on Android via a Proot environment in Termux. If I can tell AnkiDroid to use my Anki profile as the AnkiDroid directory then I'll save a fair amount of space on my device since I wont need two copies of my collection. I also don't want to corrupt my collection though.

[mikehardy]

I wouldn't trust it - the databases themselves are similar enough they should be identical, but each system expects to own the files, and at least for AnkiDroid there are other files in the directory besides just the collection. That said, if you wanted to make a test profile to see how it works, that could be interesting

[sudomain]

After a few tests (creating decks, adding notes, etc.) it seems ok to have them access the same database / profile directory, though there could be hidden nasty things going on with my collection now. The main concern is when the collection is open in the desktop version, then AnkiDroid is opened, AnkiDroid will report that the database is locked and prompt the user that the collection may be corrupt. Closing either Anki or AnkiDroid then running a database check in the other program will result in no errors. Any decks or notes that were created since the last database update (updates happen at app close?) will still be in the collection. Kudos to Anki and AnkiDroid for making such a resilient system.

Here is a screenshot of a deck and notes that I created in Anki desktop before purposely launching AnkiDroid and causing an apparent collection corruption. Note that both Anki and AnkiDroid report a corruption, but neither report errors when checking the database.

[mikehardy]

Fascinating! I think parallel releases and the native interface are probably more pleasant but simply knowing proot exists is interesting. And if a database check and media check pass, I'd be reasonably confident things are fine. At the database level it is not that complicated of a system.

[sudomain]

That's great to hear about the database check. I would definitely prefer to have the same note creation workflow on AnkiDroid as I have on Anki. Unfortunately even if all of the Anki addons I use were ported to AnkiDroid's addon system, I would still have to contend with Android's weird use of the right click button on hardware mice (in most cases, it interprets it as the back button). Would AnkiDroid welcome an issue/PR that would change how the app interprets right clicks on hardware mice? For now, I luckily have a VNC viewer app that sends the appropriate right clicks and keyboard shortcuts to my Anki proot.

[p3l4h0]

I mainly use ios and it works wonderfully. Also the parallel releases of @mikehardy work great for android. But here as an incentive if someone wants to participate (maybe @michalpravda):
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/25121039-add-support-for-profiles

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