Walletwasabi: Coins contains the labels ”binance” disabled to be mixed?

[nopara73]

Just brainstorming on the recent blacklisting.

[MaxHillebrand]

Not sure that would help anything... if the user wants to mix, then he'll re-name it to not binance and then mix regardless, thus breaking the use of the label...

Instead, if the label is any custodial kyc exchange, then throw a notification Fuck KYC exchange - use bisq!

[nopara73]

For the record, the user cannot rename a coin's label currently. Anyway, it's irrelevant.

I would however let the user to mix, wouldn't prevent it completely, but I would at least notify the user about the possible consequences. Maybe a notification that "hey you enqueued x binance coins" you may want to dequeue them as Binance doesn't like coinjoins.

[MaxHillebrand]

I think this will scare most users, and then the blacklisting exchange has won... so I'm strongly against the concept.

[nopara73]

Scaring them is better than losing their money on Binance.

[lontivero]

If Alice withdraws from Binance and send some of those bitcoins to Bob and then Bob participate in a coinjoin, will Alice be able to withdraw from Binance? Or will she be forced to explain why Bob wishes to protect his privacy? If users are force to know their "customers" then this will be a problem.

[nopara73]

That's true. But how does that relate to this issue?

[lontivero]

Because it doesn't matter what Alice does, you can disable the coin from being mix then she cannot participate but Bob will do it and her funds could be locked by binance anyway.

[nopara73]

That's true, but how is that an argument in this conversation?

[nopara73]

So we should not notify the user about Binance blacklisting him because there's a 5% chance that he'll get blacklisted regardless if he's mixing or not?

[PulpCattel]

I think some kind of notification can be helpful, but I would suggest something more encouraging, like:
Binance is against CoinJoin/privacy, consider use another service that respects your privacy more.
Instead of just scaring users, you encourage them towards better alternatives. Not necessary Bisq though, kyc is shit but users can decide for themselves what to use. Also, there are kyc exchanges that have no problem with CoinJoin; in this case they only know you have some btc, they have no idea how you are using them. This is not tragically bad and for lot of users it's still a legit way to opt in Bitcoin.