Tdesktop: How to convert to Supergroup in v1.5.11?

[SmartManoj]

Unable to find the convert option

[ufgf]

Starting from update 1.5.8, ordinary groups have the same thing as supergroups, so you should forget about them.

[ArmeF97]

You can't create normal groups in 1.5.11, you create supergroups, no other options

[john-preston]

@ArmeF97 Not exactly. A normal group is created, but it is seamlessly converted to supergroup when it is required.

[ArmeF97]

Won't that change the id of the group? And break exports?
At this point, where normal groups are useless in comparison of the supergroups, isn't it better to create supergroups directly?

[john-preston]

@ArmeF97 There is a limit on how many channels and supergroups a user can have. So it is better for small groups to remain normal groups.

[SmartManoj]

@john-preston How much limt ?

[ArmeF97]

@john-preston what would happen if a user is at his limit and the group is converted in a supergroup, when "it is required" (as you said)?
Would he be forced to exit?

[john-preston]

@ArmeF97 If he is the creator and converts the group, he wouldn't be allowed to perform the action that required the conversion.

If he was just a member I'm afraid he'll be removed from the group :( but this depends on the server, I'm not sure.

[ArmeF97]

@john-preston

If he was just a member I'm afraid he'll be removed from the group :(

And which alert does tdesktop display in this case?
"You were removed from [group] because it's been converted in a supergroup and you had already reached your limit"?

[john-preston]

@ArmeF97 I don't know, need to test that.

[ArmeF97]

Ok, maybe it's better to move this discussion in a separated issue, don't you think?

[Olegt0rr]

@ufgf @ArmeF97
Guys you're wrong!

You still create groups, not supergroups.
On create:

"chat": {
   "id": -220514232,
   "title": "MyTitle",
   "type": "group",
   "all_members_are_administrators": true
  },

If you try to edit any permission (for example PIN messages), a conversion to a supergroup will occur.

"chat": {
   "id": -1001490693730,
   "title": "MyTitle",
   "type": "supergroup"
  }

But it's terrible, cause I need to write different help for each telegram client...
Other tg apps still work with old style, with 'Convert to supergroup' button.

[john-preston]

@Olegt0rr All official apps convert automatically (iOS, Android, macOS).

[SmartManoj]

How to delete messages for everyone as default like in supergroup?

[RememberTheAir]

@SmartManoj see #3490

[SmartManoj]

It is different because here is a checkbox to delete for everyone @RememberTheAir

It seems similar https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/3334

[Nagendracv]

Old groups are not getting converted to supergroups. Delete message is still not working for the old groups. And there is no option to force convert to supergroup.

[Aokromes]

make group public, remove it from public, it will be converted to supergroup.