Electricitymap-contrib: Data for regions of France

[Manu1400]

Real time dataset: https://opendata.reseaux-energies.fr/explore/dataset/eco2mix-regional-tr/

Keywords: subdivision, regional data

[robertahunt]

Hi Manu!! Cool that you found this, I think it could be great to split France into subregions.

The only thing I am uncertain about is that they only list 'thermal' production as a lump sum, and don't separate it into coal and gas. @corradio given that this will give us higher granularity data, and that thermal production is relatively low in france, do you think this is an acceptable trade off?

Also @Manu1400 is building a parser for this data something you want to/are able to take on yourself?

[corradio]

Hi all,
I think this might overlap with the work done by @PETILLON-Sebastien:
https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap-contrib/blob/master/parsers/FR_O.py
@robertahunt what we've done historically is that we've deemed it acceptable to lump all thermal into the "unknown" category to which we often apply a generic fossil fuel emission level.

[PETILLON-Sebastien]

Haha already used it for my new application http://facteurs-charge.fr/ (with my twitter account @FacteursC)
But imo, without the details of thermal, can't have a correct estimation of the climate impact, it will be less interesting than details for the entire France.

[Mxchaeltrxn]

@robertahunt @corradio Hey this is the kind of task I'm looking to do in this repository. I can do this one!

[corradio]

Hey!
I did a hackathon a while back where I split FR by region (see https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap-contrib/tree/feature/hackathon).
However, we didn't put it in production as we lacked the import/exports (we only had access to the net import).
Does RTE now publish import/exports?

[PETILLON-Sebastien]

• In the given dataset, we only have a single value representing imports with positive values and exports with negative values. I'm using it in my website's chart. But we don't know from which region come imports or in which region go the exports. I assume it's what you meant by net import.
• And as already said, as fossils are aggregated in a single data "thermal", we loose a lot of information, even if it's mainly gas, compared to national dataset :/
• Moroever, it looks like the delay for data is bigger too. At this right moment, electricitymap has data at 3PM (french time) as my website has data at 1:30PM.

IMO, it won't be better if the dataset is not improved. Maybe there's a way to ask for improvements on these three points ? Any idea ?

[robertahunt]

Unfortunately, for us to calculate the carbon intensity based on consumption, knowing where the imports come from is a requirement :( I am closing this for now. We can reopen it if they start releasing regional import data.

[robertahunt]

Reopening this as import/export data is available from https://www.rte-france.com/fr/eco2mix/eco2mix-telechargement

[robertahunt]

Data is both available from https://www.rte-france.com/fr/eco2mix/eco2mix-telechargement and the api https://opendata.reseaux-energies.fr/explore/dataset/eco2mix-national-tr/information/?disjunctive.nature&q.from_date.date_heure=date_heure%3E%3D%222020-05-03T22:00:00Z%22&sort=-date_heure , however, the api data has been missing since 4 days ago, and I am unsure if this signals that they are discontinuing it, or if this is something they plan on fixing

edit: regional data link from opendata https://opendata.reseaux-energies.fr/explore/dataset/eco2mix-regional-tr/table/?disjunctive.libelle_region&disjunctive.nature&sort=-date_heure

[corradio]

From what I see only international interconnectors are present. Did you
find national (i.e. inter-regional) interconnector data?

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:22 AM Roberta Hunt [e-mail]
wrote:

Data is both available from
https://www.rte-france.com/fr/eco2mix/eco2mix-telechargement and the api
https://opendata.reseaux-energies.fr/explore/dataset/eco2mix-national-tr/information/?disjunctive.nature&q.from_date.date_heure=date_heure%3E%3D%222020-05-03T22:00:00Z%22&sort=-date_heure
, however, the api data has been missing since 4 days ago, and I am unsure
if this signals that they are discontinuing it, or if this is something
they plan on fixing

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[robertahunt]

Hey, yes - if you choose which region to download (from the first link), it shows imports for each of the regions.. I apparently put the wrong link for the second one, I have updated it - It has columns such as :
Import Grand-Est | Import Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes | Import Nouvelle-Aquitaine | Import Bourgogne-Franche-Comté | Import Bretagne | Import Centre-Val de Loire | Import Ile-de-France | Import Occitanie | Import Hauts-de-France | Import Normandie | Import Pays-de-la-Loire | Import PACA
And country imports:
Import Espagne | Import Suisse | Import Royaume-Uni | Import Italie (etc)

[robertahunt]

However, as @ajoga pointed out in #2444 the license restrictions for using data from the first link make it difficult - we would have to open a discussion with RTE to use the data.

[pierresegonne]

In the absence of any discussion with RTE for open access, I'll close the issue

[corradio]

In the absence of any discussion with RTE for open access, I'll close the issue

@pierresegonne are you sure open access is actually restricted?
We're even cited as a reference on their portal (https://opendata.reseaux-energies.fr/pages/reutilisations/):

I think this could be built and would be quite cool!

[pierresegonne]

I have not verified no, but there was no update since may, I'll consequently reopen

[tgy]

This would be great. Increasing the granularity of the map! I met a soon-to-be CIFRE economics PhD student at RTE last week and when I asked her if she knew about electricitymap she answered "yes of course I know it" as if it was an obviousness 😃.

[AilinvandenHonigkuchenpferdlande]

I'd like to try and build this out next week unless someone else is already working on this issue?

[corradio]

I'd like to try and build this out next week unless someone else is already working on this issue?

Please do!
Note this might be helpful:
https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap-contrib/blob/feature/hackathon/web/app/FR_regions.json
And this branch as well:
https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap-contrib/tree/feature/hackathon

[tth4vb]

Closing this as @AilinvandenHonigkuchenpferdlande has been building this - we'll keep track on the PR