Windowscommunitytoolkit: Question - UWP Pivot Viewer/Control

[Pinox]

Does anyone know if there is any source examples that I can find that replicates the old "Silverlight Pivot Control" in UWP. Always thought this was a nifty control especially in displaying data.

Example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3mH-aDhebk

Thanks.

[Odonno]

From what I know, it's available for UWP. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/controls-and-patterns/tabs-pivot

[skendrot]

The Pivot is already part of the framework controls

[Pinox]

Thanks guys for the hint. I am aware of of the pivot control in UWP but that is not the same as the silverlight control. Silverlight control does all the animation etc out of the box, You give it the data set with label identifiers and you can use the data as in the animation clip on youtube. The control also does the zooming drilling down into the details of the data automatically with feature like deep zoom , item view , graph view etc.

[skendrot]

Ahhhhh... Sorry. That control was pretty cool

[deltakosh]

Was a really great control. Not sure if there is a big need for it though

[Pinox]

I know Microsoft thought is was pretty cool at the time. To me this is the Excel pivot table equivalent right in your app. Really a must for displaying large amount of data in an intuitive way.

This was the official microsoft youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZuFUZpEZ-A

Perhaps I'm just a bit long in the tooth but I like it ;)

[deltakosh]

I'm completely fine iIf someone wants to try adding

[deltakosh]

Hey @Pinox !
In order to evaluate if a feature can be added to the toolkit we created a new category on WPDEV Uservoice: https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-universal-windows-platform?query=Pivot%20Viewer%2FControl

Can you please create an entry for your idea? based on upvote we will be able to know if this is something we can add to the toolkit!
Thank you very much

[Pinox]

I opened a uservoice ticket , for anyone liking the feature

https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-universal-windows-platform/suggestions/18058147-pivot-viewer-control-silverlight-equivalent

[hawkerm]

This is kind of related: https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-universal-windows-platform/suggestions/18662884-multiple-levels-of-semantic-zoom

[Kyaa-dost]

@Pinox what's the update on this?

[Pinox]

@Kyaa-dost - no update on this. I'm hoping someone in the Blazor community can do something like this as the original control was a silverlight version although my personal opinion is that these controls should exist in WinUI 3.0

[michael-hawker]

@Pinox they never open sourced the Siliverlight version of the control, eh? That'd be the only path I would see forward to get this in the toolkit... otherwise, I'm thinking we may just want to close this issue unless we could find out who still owns that code somewhere in Microsoft... ☹

@stmoy are you aware of this older Silverlight control (I think shipped out of MSR?) and how we might track down current ownership (if any)?

[mdtauk]

If the code can be found and ported to WinUI - rather than calling it a Pivot Viewer (which would be confusing with the modern Pivot control - could it perhaps be called something like a SortingView?

[Pinox]

Hi @michael-hawker , searching youtube i found the following link by a Microsoft presenter. I'm sure she would be able to track down this for you. Super exited about u looking for the source.

The use case for this control is endless, especially in big data, AI , ML and visualization in general. Sorely missed control in the MS stable.

This is a company that used the initial concept of Microsoft PivotViewer (Silverlight) and ran with it into a totally seperate product.
https://zegami.com/

https://zegami.com/collections/public-5b9fb08a87596d0001b17ff5?pan=TYPES_PANEL&fc=labels&view=grid

Microsoft Presentation link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aey3xm0CBg

@mdtauk - a name that compliments the concept of a 2D data visualizer will be great.

[michael-hawker]

Thanks for the links @Pinox.

Jenn is no longer around, so that's a dead-end to start with unfortunately, but I've found some other folks I may be able to get some history from as a starting point.

[Pinox]

@michael-hawker , Not sure if this is going to help but names that come up under LiveLabs that were members of the the incubation team at Microsoft. Gary Flake , Mark Bramley , Karim Farouki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUrqvwKV74

It looks like the zooming capability was based on Seadragon technology , a company that MS bought and then they MS created an open source version of it called https://openseadragon.github.io/ The open source version was a javascript version

Source : https://github.com/openseadragon/openseadragon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seadragon_Software

[stmoy]

@stmoy are you aware of this older Silverlight control (I think shipped out of MSR?) and how we might track down current ownership (if any)?

Silverlight was before my time, I'm afraid 😅 - CC: @ranjeshj, the WinUI controls lead to help us track down current ownership.

[Kyaa-dost]

@stmoy are you aware of this older Silverlight control (I think shipped out of MSR?) and how we might track down current ownership (if any)?

Silverlight was before my time, I'm afraid 😅 - CC: @ranjeshj, the WinUI controls lead to help us track down current ownership.

@ranjeshj do you know? ⬆️

[Kyaa-dost]

Still waiting for @ranjeshj to provide any update.