Hello everyone,
What do you all think of the new BIP179? It proposes that "bitcoin address" be renamed to "bitcoin invoice address".
The aim is to include the word "invoice" so that it becomes more obvious that address reuse should be avoided, thus improving privacy.
Hello everyone,
What do you all think of the new BIP179? It proposes that "bitcoin address" be renamed to "bitcoin invoice address".
The aim is to include the word "invoice" so that it becomes more obvious that address reuse should be avoided, thus improving privacy.
Great idea, "invoice address" makes me think its final and I would not use that address again.
I very much agree with the sentiment - address is a horrible term, with all the wrong assosiations that lead to privacy mistakes. So I ACK the concept, and I think Wasabi should be a pioneer of industry best practices - especially regarding privacy.
So now it is a question of strategy, and as BIP 179 says, weather or not to include address in the term at all, or if it should be straight forward invoice [Bitcoin is not needed, as Wasabi doesn't have shitcoins].
Arguments AGAINST the change [and my thoughts on that]:
address [that is a bad argument, as this is a bad user flow, and will be broken by a superior one, thus it's an upgrade]Invoice, and that will confuse users what it is [this can be solved with using invoice address, but I think this is more clutter, and I would prefer invoice with a tool tip that it is an invoice address used to receive bitcoin] Arguments IN FAVOR of the change [and my thoughts on that]:
address in the GUI already, as it is based on a coin model, and the address is only shown in the Receive tab, as well as in the drop down of the coin details [so it would not drastically break incumbent UX] So in summary, I ACK the discontinue of address, and am in favor of going to invoice directly in the GUI, with a tooltip that defines it as Bitcoin invoice address used to receive coins, for example Generate Receiving Invoice in the Receive Tab
I very much agree with the sentiment - address is a horrible term
Yes, I agree.
It is minor change in wasabi and I personally would go with Generate Invoice Address instead of the current Generate Receive Address and would replace the word Address by Invoice Address in the coin list control.
IMO changing existing terms is almost always a hopeless fight.
I've talked to a couple of other projects and have change my mind, BIP179 is actually bad. Luckily I think there is a better solution, namely BIP21.
BIP179 says it has an advantage that LN wallets also use the word "invoice", so the UX of wallets which implement LN and on-chain could be combined. However this is wrong, because "bitcoin invoice addresses" wouldn't contain an amount like LN invoices do so users still might have to type in an amount and behave differently depending on whether they pay with on-chain or LN.
BIP21 is a URI scheme that looks a bit like bitcoin:ONCHAIN_ADDRESS?amount=AMOUNT&lightning=BOLT11_INVOICE
All the good things abou BIP179 that @MaxHillebrand should also exist in BIP21. It helps discourage address reuse by not being called "an address", possibly "invoice" possibly "payment code" possibly something else.
BIP21 also has these other advantages:
FYI @chris-belcher , Wasabi already supports BIP21, the address, amount and label are imported as the uri is pasted.
Good points to have a unified onchain + offchain terminology here.
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I very much agree with the sentiment -
addressis a horrible term, with all the wrong assosiations that lead to privacy mistakes. So I ACK the concept, and I think Wasabi should be a pioneer of industry best practices - especially regarding privacy.So now it is a question of strategy, and as BIP 179 says, weather or not to include
addressin the term at all, or if it should be straight forwardinvoice[Bitcoinis not needed, as Wasabi doesn't have shitcoins].Arguments AGAINST the change [and my thoughts on that]:
address[that is a bad argument, as this is a bad user flow, and will be broken by a superior one, thus it's an upgrade]Invoice, and that will confuse users what it is [this can be solved with usinginvoice address, but I think this is more clutter, and I would preferinvoicewith a tool tip that it is aninvoice addressused to receive bitcoin]Arguments IN FAVOR of the change [and my thoughts on that]:
addressin the GUI already, as it is based on a coin model, and theaddressis only shown in theReceivetab, as well as in the drop down of the coin details [so it would not drastically break incumbent UX]So in summary, I ACK the discontinue of
address, and am in favor of going toinvoicedirectly in the GUI, with a tooltip that defines it asBitcoin invoice address used to receive coins, for exampleGenerate Receiving Invoicein theReceive Tab