Tgstation: April Fools

[imtakingabreakdontatme]

What are we doing for it this year?

@tgstation/commit-access

My vague plan right now is to let everyone propose their master plan here and then whoever has the best one can bypass the freeze rather than a free for all of nonsense

[praisenarsie]

i'm gonna spill an idea hippie had which was replacing fire extinguishers with a chance of having deadly chemicals like clf3

[Iamgoofball]

I've got a plan to convert the game to darkRP.

[Cyberboss]

@praisenarsie https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ?t=37

[vuonojenmustaturska]

enable pre-nerf gooffoam with clogged vents limits

[Qustinnus]

Rebase to lifeweb (aka make a station on lavaland and make late arrivals spawn all the way south, plus other memes)

[imtakingabreakdontatme]

@Iamgoofball elaborate

[Iamgoofball]

Also, all in favor of DISABLING admins spamming var edit/secrets panel/disabling antag spam.

[praisenarsie]

AYE!

[imtakingabreakdontatme]

@praisenarsie that just sounds like an admin headache of people accidentally or "accidentally" setting others on fire all day

[Iamgoofball]

admins can get pissy and stickyban me for disabling their button spam for a day but thats on them

[Iamgoofball]

DarkRP:
@KorPhaeron
The map is forced to a 1:1 copy of rp_downtown_v4c
You can press F4 to pick a job you want to play as, or use your money to buy a money printer
You respawn after 5 seconds after dying. NLR is enforced by a physical barrier you can't go past for 180 seconds.
Security can arrest people for 80 seconds with a red stun baton, and un-arrest them with a green stun baton.
Gun Dealers can press F4 to spawn a shipment of guns that spawns a gun when clicked on.
All jobs replaced with DarkRP jobs.

Bugbait = yes

[Qustinnus]

/advert drop 5k or die

[praisenarsie]

darkrp is a shit gamemode

but we have a shit playerbase so it cancels out

[Iamgoofball]

OH RIGHT yeah we need to do advert verb too

[Qustinnus]

dont forget airlock buying

[praisenarsie]

HOLY SHIT YES

can we please do darkrp

[imtakingabreakdontatme]

@Iamgoofball could you actually get that all done by april fools

[Qustinnus]

doubt

[praisenarsie]

i might be willing to help him.

[praisenarsie]

leatherclub is two blocks down

[ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone]

Do people actually like april fools memery?

It's basically the equivalent to an admin running a round disrupting-event (ironically less disrupting than goof's suggestion) but it's for the whole day and it's the exact same event round after round after round.

[Iamgoofball]

@KorPhaeron it's all very easy shit tbh

[PKPenguin321]

I fucking love April fools, speaking as a player

[ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone]

I've always played a round or two then stopped playing for the rest of the day.

[imtakingabreakdontatme]

@excessiveuseofcobby

Maybe we should do something like change the overflow role from assistant to clown and make april fools last 3-5 days, make it more like the other holidays where it shakes up the game a bit without going overboard

Put an end to this tradition where we make the game unplayable

[factoryman942]

laughter demon clown cult to honk'sie when?

[ChuckTheSheep]

Step/feet sounds for everyone.

[Iamgoofball]

The game is only unplayable because of 2 reasons:

1. We don't decide on 1 joke and everything goes to chaos
2. We DO decide on 1 joke, admins get pissy and think it's not funny so they use it as an excuse to button smash.

[davethwave]

How about a semi-tame one with just a few choice event antags. Such as perhaps have 3 intelligent virus's with each have goals to compete with each other for example.

[ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone]

@KorPhaeron That would be a lot more enjoyable I think and we can actually keep them for later years with holidays.

• A very small change would be to replace all language syllables with honk, squeak, bwoink

• Could also reskin some wizard/cult spells to be more clownpropriate. Magic missile bananas, FireBallnana, rodclown form, Honkstop, etc.

HONKI' SOMA!

• I'd kill for someone to retheme narsie and ratvar into clown variants.

• Upweigh clownsteroid and clown ruin

• The "meme" voices could also be readded, those were funny

We have a lot of ways to mess around without it ruining the gameplay I think.

[Iamgoofball]

That's dumb and boring

[Iamgoofball]

April fools is the one day a year coders get to ignore realism memelords and people arguing in bad faith about the traitor metagame

[ChuckTheSheep]

Ctrl+F Replace obj with mob? Why mess with players when you can mess with maintainers :thinking:

[pubby]

airport mode

• the map is replaced with a shitty map of an airport I made 1.5 years ago
• half the crew (assistants) plays airport staff and the other half plays passengers
• the passenger's job is to board the plane (the emergency shuttle) when it arrives
• the staff's job is to handle security, luggage, and dining
• the captain is the pilot or somthing
• the hop is the copilot
• enable traitor mode for 9/11 simulations

[ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone]

I can't get past complaining about admins interfering in the round at all (once someone complains they usually tone it down) while simultaneously saying you want the entire day to have the exact same game altering dynamics because haha april fools im so funny!

It should be about players having fun (as it is with every other feature/holiday). If most people find darkrp for 1 whole day fun then so be it, ill just not play. If most people would rather have small non-game altering changes (darkrp is fine for a couple of rounds but not an entire day imo), then we should do small non-game altering changes.

@KorPhaeron have we not ever polled people regarding april fools? I know there was a forum thread about it but don't remember if we ran a player poll or something.

[Iamgoofball]

The problem with admins interfering being the april fools joke is it's not a new mechanic or new gameplay.

[optimumtact]

I'm in favour of not doing anything

[Qustinnus]

I like april fools because it lets us experiment and honestly if its not shit tier quality "HAHA 500 METEORS AREN'T WE HILARIOUS" or "HAHA WE BROKE THE GAME AREN'T WE COMEDY GODS" you could potentially find some unironically fun features, even if they were added ironically.

[Xhuis]

The thing I've been planning for a while is adding cat ears to the sprites of the two gods and renaming them to Nya-Sie and Catvar.

[Iamgoofball]

Never ever

[Xhuis]

See? It works.

[Bawhoppen]

Coderbus coup.
Replace the actual admins.txt with the one in the repo.

[Durkel]

Just have the servers redirect to hippie for the ultimate prank.

[Buggy123]

@Cyberboss #35362

[duncathan]

i am in favour of goofball's proposal

[Jalleo]

I have a idea. Make it so random things explode or give items on first use. (No limit you could get a BoH or a candy wrapper) Aka lockers, disposals, machines, etc first time they make something.

[davethwave]

How about turning everyone into plasmamen and turn the station air to plasma?

[AlexTheSysop42]

This would probably end horribly, but for a few rounds give everyone certain admin privledges and still enforce rules. These would be stuff like +SPAWN, +VAREDIT, and +BUILDMODE that people could make something interesting with, but not ones that could interfere with other people like +BAN, +SERVER, and +SOUND that could negatively interfere with others. The gamemode would probably have to be extended because antags with admin powers, or people using admin powers against antags, would not end well.

It could be easily done by adding a rank and using the AUTOADMIN flag in the config. There would also have to be a safegaurd against people adding notes, not sure if this is an existing privilege or included in +ADMIN

[davethwave]

How about antags with semi admin powers? Like varedit and spawn.

[arsserpentarium]

Revert techwebs to old science. Bring it back 3 days later.

[arsserpentarium]

Also, since slimes keep constantly sodomize every bot, which they see, they should have children on april fools: slimebots. Which is basically slimes, which can be controlled by AI and can patrol station.

[Qustinnus]

why cant selea post without mentioning 2 things having sex

[BeeSting12]

@davethwave
An antag mass varedditting everyone's health to zero would be so fun and hilarious.

[AlexTheSysop42]

Precisely why I suggested sandbox/extended

Then again, it would be hilarious to see an antag do that and not remember it affects them too, bonus points if they can't revive themself

[davethwave]

Well with a emergency air tank you can create even maxcaps with the power of varedit

[AlexTheSysop42]

Once again, that's why the rules will still be enforced. If some griffin decides to maxcap things, a realmin can ban him and people can buildmode to fix it.

[Qustinnus]

lol if we have varedit an admin really cant do much to stop players from griefing hardcore

[Qustinnus]

especially anyone that knows the code would be able to make the server hell

[Iamgoofball]

nvm lmao my gpu is fried no dev work for me

[AlexTheSysop42]

yeah that's the problem

[AlexTheSysop42]

^response to quinn

[ghost]

i'd like to see a full-scale rebase to openss13/r4407 code exclusively for april fools. make people relearn the game

[BeeSting12]

I like @Plapatin 's idea.

[Vivalas]

Airplane mode sounds fun

Or Plapatin's idea sounds cool too, I would like to try a round of retro SS13 as well

[Bombpants]

Speaking of coderbus, how many pr’s do you need to get added to the repo.

[imtakingabreakdontatme]

@Bombpants As a team member with commit access? There is no set number of PRs. That isn't how maintainers are chosen.

[Bombpants]

Ohh. Whoops I was thinking that the repo was the same thing as CODER CREDITS

[silicons]

Revert to 2014 code.

[Bawhoppen]

We've done old code multiple times before, and it just is kinda boring after a little awhile (not to mention you can probably break the server with old exploits that are now fixed).

[AlexTheSysop42]

Revert IC sanitizing :^)

[arsserpentarium]

this ^

[fludd12]

On the subject of giving people small admin commands, why not just give them a spell that lets them summon any object? Might end up with some fun times, such as a traitor with the instagib rifle versus a 90% block chance chaplain with an ekatana, and you won't have to worry about as many exploits

[AlexTheSysop42]

That's basically sandbox mode

[AlexTheSysop42]

Actually running sandbox anyway would be neat if not much else happens

[davethwave]

How about since Easter is in the same day we could recreated the killer bunny from Monty python and the holy grail and add that as a easter event with a high chance of happening?

[PKPenguin321]

my favorite april fools was when we had a separate branch for it. why not just do that and if any change is especially shit just dont merge it

[Armhulen]

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/35976

this but replacing every cloning device
fun change but only for the day and it doesn't make the game unplayable

[AlexTheSysop42]

Small idea that could potentially go with something else: Pinpointer pinpointers

They would randomly spawn (frequently) under floor tiles like a smuggler's satchel and less frequently in maint and you can use them to pinpoint a pinpointer on station. There's a 30% chance to pinpoint a different pinpointer pinpointer though, and another 30% to track something else, but you don't know it's any different than a regular pinpointer pinpointer until you find what it's pointing to.

Inspiration: https://xkcd.com/952/ and a round where I was trying to find someone with a pinpointer to track down a shunted malf AI (if that's still a thing)

[epochayur]

has anyone suggested Prop Hunt? seems like it'd be pretty easy to implement with chameleon projectors, and especially interesting with #36534

[Bawhoppen]

Prop hunt wouldn't really make sense since it's mostly unrelated to ss13.

[Xhuis]

Sure it is. Just like prophunt, you hunt down objects that are not human and should not be treated like such. Security already does this perfectly with mutant races!

[Jordie0608]

This doesn't need to remain an open issue.

[Bawhoppen]

DarkRP made since as a joke since it's kind of similar to ss13, both being memey RP games. While for Prophunt, the only similarity really is that they're both video games played by very special users.

[Xhuis]

So, with the big day being tomorrow, how'll the PRs for it work?

[Iamgoofball]

nobody actually proposed anything and made progress so here's our april fools:
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/36880

[Qustinnus]

I did make something though

[davethwave]

https://tgstation13.org/ the worst april fools joke is here though...

[optimumtact]

server being down has nothing to do with us, ping the headadmins