PowerToys Run uses, by default, a old and known Window shortcut - ALT+SPACE

[paulomorgado]

PowerToys Run uses, by default, a old and known Window shortcut - ALT+SPACE

See: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts

I know that there aren't many easily usable keyboard shortcuts left, but I don't think shadowing one of the that has be there for ever is a good idea.

[htcfreek]

We could use Ctrl+R. It is the same as F5 and no problem if runner uses it,

[wolf99]

First thing I did after installing was attempt to minimize my browser window, which I've been doing for eons with alt+space, n. Got as far as alt+space and... oh dear.

@htcfreek unfortunately Fn keys are probably not the best alternative. On more and more laptops they are hard mapped to specific functions by the manufacturer (e.g. flight mode).

[htcfreek]

@htcfreek unfortunately Fn keys are probably not the best alternative. On more and more laptops they are hard mapped to specific functions by the manufacturer (e.g. flight mode).

@wolf99
What I meant is that we can user Ctrl+R because it hase the same functionality as F5. So we don't remove any shortcut functionality if we use Ctrl+R.

[trockenasche]

First thing I did after installing was attempt to minimize my browser window, which I've been doing for eons with alt+space, n. Got as far as alt+space and... oh dear.

@htcfreek unfortunately Fn keys are probably not the best alternative. On more and more laptops they are hard mapped to specific functions by the manufacturer (e.g. flight mode).

@wolf99 you can use WIN+down to minimize any window.

[wolf99]

@trockenasche Yah, I recalled that actually. Unfortunately pesky muscle memory in my fingers doesn't listen to brain's instructions 🙈

[pedrolamas]

As @paulomorgado above mentioned, the Alt+Space open the window system menu and personally, I use it a lot as sometimes windows are hidden (outside the display area) and that is the only way I have to make them visible again (by selecting "Maximize" from the menu)

First thing I did when I enabled the PowerToy Run was change the accelerator to Ctrl+Space.

Having said that, please do be aware that even Ctrl+Space can be used by the Windows language switcher applet!

[paulomorgado]

@PedroLamas, the language switch is Win+Space.

I changed to Win+Shift+R, but I might change it to Win+R. Win+R is a sure way to execute something, but you can get there through task manager.

A non-Win shortcut will always have the chance to collide with application shortcuts.

[pedrolamas]

@paulomorgado you're absolutely correct, I got mixed up... I actually use Ctrl+Space on Windows Explorer to select items with the keyboard (hold Ctrl and use the Up or Down to move selection and then hit Space for selection)

So I've now changed my PowerToys Run key combination again, this time to Ctrl+Alt+Space...

[TheZoc]

Ctrl+Space is used in many IDEs as code auto-completion.
I'd like to have a mac-like shortcut as Win+Space, so my muscle memory will be happy, but then I wouldn't know how to map my language switching shortcut appropriately :(

[pedrolamas]

@TheZoc Very good point on using Ctrl+Space for autocomplete!

However, please be aware that Windows uses Win+Space to change the keyboard language when you have multiple ones set!

[paulomorgado]

Can't replace Win+R.

Trying Win+Alt+`Space´.

We need pedals...

[ScottArbeit]

Just wanted to add a strong +1 to this. I love having PowerToys Run, but I have muscle-memory for literally 30 years of using Alt+Space to bring up the System Menu on every window on every version of Windows since 3.1. After I first started PowerToys 0.18, I was on a Teams call sharing my screen and couldn't figure out why this thing kept popping up when I was just trying to minimize a window. 🤦‍♂️ Win+Alt+Space would be fine. Or any other keystroke combination that hasn't been built into Windows for decades.

[crutkas]

this work is being tracked in #2325. The short story is we need to redo the shortcut engine in it to how we are doing it for all other PTs. It wasn't an easy transition so we had two options, ship and get feedback or wait.

Issue is there really isn't a good default key. Win+space would be great but that is already a real keystroke for switching languages. Win+R is an inspiration but we don't believe we've 'earned' the right to override that key yet.

Goal is .19 to be done with the remapping work.