Notepad-plus-plus: Remove China-related issues

[Qu3tzal]

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[NainbowCat]

wow this is intense
thanks for organizing

[reyqn]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

[Qu3tzal]

No, I don't care actually. This is freedom of speech. That you accept the author's ideas or not is not our problem. If you don't agree, fork and maintain your own Notepad++, rebase with every commit from here and even add pro-China comments in it if you want.

[sjennison]

FYI #6485 appears to be a legit bug report caught in the mess

[dongyingt]

公道自在人心，正义终将到来。

[alexinea]

6288 has nothing to do with the Chinese topic. I just advise the Notepad++ author to focus on the technical field and not to cross technical and political issues.

I recommend @Qu3tzal to persuade Notepad++ authors to remove this article

[NainbowCat]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

a slave thinks he speaks in his master's behalf, this is what happened.

[alexinea]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

[alexinea]

a slave thinks he speaks in his master's behalf, this is what happened.

Can you publish such racist remarks in the United States?

[proteriax]

@alexinea Yes. Have you heard of Fox News?

[Qu3tzal]

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.

I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

[alexinea]

@alexinea Yes. Have you heard of Fox News?

No matter what media organization, their news is not necessarily true. We must be good at thinking independently, not being influenced by the ruling party and the media. Do you think it is right?

[alexinea]

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.

I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.

The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.

What do you think?

[reyqn]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

[proteriax]

and what you have said has touched our baseline.

@penghubingzhou I can’t believe I’m quoting Ben Shapiro, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

[alexinea]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

This needs to be based on a foundation that is to criticize the truth, not on things that are not proven.

[proteriax]

I'm Uyghurs

@penghubingzhou Uyghur names are not romanized in pinyin. Not even on their official documents. Astrosurfing?

[sjennison]

@alexinea what the author says on their website is their choice, as it is their public platform. People say all sorts of hateful and terrible things on their own sites all the time, and if the "public opinion" decides that's too much for them, they stop going to that site.

Spamming an unrelated website, in direct violation of that site's rules, is both ineffective and will quickly be deleted.

If there's truly this much trouble over this decision, that discussion can be had, but GitHub is not the place to do it. Nor is it the place to display blatant racism, as some of the comments have. That is against GitHub's rules and will not help anything.

[alexinea]

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.
The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.
What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

The premise of free critique is to criticize the truth, rather than criticizing it based on unconfirmed news.

Freedom of speech does not mean anything can be said.

[reyqn]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

This needs to be based on a foundation that is to criticize the truth, not on things that are not proven.

Do you mean the Uyghur claims are totally unfounded and nothing about it is remotely true?

[alexinea]

what the author says on their website is their choice, as it is their public platform. People say all sorts of hateful and terrible things on their own sites all the time, and if the "public opinion" decides that's too much for them, they stop going to that site.

Spamming an unrelated website, in direct violation of that site's rules, is both ineffective and will quickly be deleted.

If there's truly this much trouble over this decision, that discussion can be had, but GitHub is not the place to do it. Nor is it the place to display blatant racism, as some of the comments have. That is against GitHub's rules and will not help anything.

What you said makes sense. None of us should discuss this issue on github.

[dartraiden]

You should think about why someone annoyed us

Spam, DDoS and other dirty things must be stopped, no matter who they come from. If you do not agree with your opponent, convince him with arguments, but not with violence.

[clavinet]

You should think about why someone annoyed us

fun fact: this isn't China here and people can say what they want. Being so mad you open 1000 issues just shows how utterly pathetic you people are.

[sjennison]

@alexinea thank you for understanding.

[proteriax]

Nope, I have joined Chinese school for a early age.

@penghubingzhou So you are saying Ugyhurs are not Chinese.

[alexinea]

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.
The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.
What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

The premise of free critique is to criticize the truth, rather than criticizing it based on unconfirmed news.
Freedom of speech does not mean anything can be said.

At risk of getting political, the treatment of Uyghurs in China is in no way unconfirmed news.

Only Uighur people have the power to answer this question. The Uighurs here do not refer to one individual or two, but to most Uighurs.

I recommend @Qu3tzal to close this issue. There are too many useless discussions with anger and fake news.

[proteriax]

@penghubingzhou That is correct. You literally won’t go to jail over that.

[proteriax]

@penghubingzhou We tease our own countries on prime time TV. Do you think your state is founded on a house of cards that a few words can make it fold?

[alexinea]

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.
The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.
What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

The premise of free critique is to criticize the truth, rather than criticizing it based on unconfirmed news.
Freedom of speech does not mean anything can be said.

At risk of getting political, the treatment of Uyghurs in China is in no way unconfirmed news.

Only Uighur people have the power to answer this question. The Uighurs here do not refer to one individual or two, but to most Uighurs.
I recommend @Qu3tzal to close this issue. There are too many useless discussions with anger and fake news.

if there‘s no one to tease my homeland, I won't be so angry.

From the perspective of popular psychology, the wisdom of the group is infinitely close to zero.

In addition, BBC and CNN are good at making fake news, as is well known. People have grown up in this kind of fake news since childhood, and it is difficult for us to tell them what is true. Therefore, we Chinese must build the country to be more prosperous, strong, and modern, so that more Westerners can come to China to see and walk in person.

Those who rely on youtube think that they know Chinese in the West and don’t know the truth. They are just the squad and victim of Western politicians and interest groups. There are keyboard man in China and there are also in the West.

The time to break the curse of the BBC and CNN is not far off.

[ghost]

Why are there so many arguments about China on the Github for a FOSS editor?

I mean, it's a really good FOSS editor, but... why?

[sjennison]

@penghubingzhou I appreciate that you feel you have been wronged. You may even be correct about it - that's not my place to say, nor, frankly, is it anyone else's here. But this conversation, here, on GitHub, is not productive. If you truly want to show the world the truth, do that! But please do not act like this. Your behavior, and many others' here, is not going to change anyone's mind, breaks the rules of GitHub, and will likely be deleted before I log on tomorrow. I understand it may be different in different places, but in this community, you can make statements like the author's freely. You can even, as another user said, clone the project and change the message to anything else. But it's his project, and he can choose what it says, and an argument on GitHub is not going to change anything, because you're breaking the rules you agreed to when you signed up for the site.
Feel free to speak your mind in a place that welcomes that discussion, but GitHub is not that place.

[proteriax]

@steamp0rt The author made some comments on the situation in Xinjiang and some people from China don’t really like it.

[ghost]

@proteriax Oh.

[ghost]

It's kinda sad that calling for people to be treated like people and not animals results in a response like this.

[AK-Yunx]

犯我中华者，虽远必诛！不要随意发表这样的言论，你有了解过？臭傻逼！有你哭的一天

[alexinea]

@penghubingzhou I appreciate that you feel you have been wronged. You may even be correct about it - that's not my place to say, nor, frankly, is it anyone else's here. But this conversation, here, on GitHub, is not productive. If you truly want to show the world the truth, do that! But please do not act like this. Your behavior, and many others' here, is not going to change anyone's mind, breaks the rules of GitHub, and will likely be deleted before I log on tomorrow. I understand it may be different in different places, but in this community, you can make statements like the author's freely. You can even, as another user said, clone the project and change the message to anything else. But it's his project, and he can choose what it says, and an argument on GitHub is not going to change anything, because you're breaking the rules you agreed to when you signed up for the site.
Feel free to speak your mind in a place that welcomes that discussion, but GitHub is not that place.

@sjennison is right, so I hope that everyone will discuss the technology calmly, not hurt each other.

@penghubingzhou Seems difficult.

It takes some time, and... the unity of the country 😀

[Logiar]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

[proteriax]

@penghubingzhou I’m sorry but what

[ghost]

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[ghost]

@penghubingzhou what even is a "brush scrub machine" and why is it an insult

[Logiar]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea，But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

[jwenjian]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea，But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

youtube = free speach, emmm....

[proteriax]

@penghubingzhou yeah you probably want to work on your reading skills a bit...

[proteriax]

@YunrZhao what

[Logiar]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea，But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

nope,but can access by VPN. I'm also the one in it.

VPN usage to evade the blocks is legal in China?

[jwenjian]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea，But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

nope,but can access by VPN. I'm also the one in it.

VPN usage to evade the blocks is legal in China?

so many questiones, you should first learn China then to judge it.

[ghost]

@penghubingzhou How many times a day do you worship Winnie the Pooh and bow at his feet, sniffing them, taking in what you think is the aroma of a god-emperor?

[Avalancheeee]

Tiananmen Square massacre 1989

The Tiananmen Square protests were student-led demonstrations calling for democracy, free speech and a free press in China. They were halted in a bloody crackdown, known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, by the Chinese government on June 4 and 5, 1989.

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution

[Logiar]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea，But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

nope,but can access by VPN. I'm also the one in it.

VPN usage to evade the blocks is legal in China?

so many questiones, you should first learn China then to judge it.

I'm asking questions. Not judging. Isn't asking questions a natural step of learning?

[proteriax]

@penghubingzhou you can’t assume people are white, that’s pretty racist

[ghost]

@penghubingzhou
If you’re planning a trip to China, you’re probably already aware of the “Great Firewall of China.” In simple terms, the GFW is the vast system — both technical and legal — that allows the Chinese government to regulate and censor the Internet within the country.

Under this system, many non-Chinese websites and applications are blocked in mainland China. The list of blocked services is extensive, including Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, WhatsApp, Youtube, Gmail, Google Maps, Uber, Netflix, and many others.

To most travelers, the GFW seems very frustrating, and can even discourage people from visiting the country altogether. Thankfully, though, you can get usually around the restrictions with a small amount of effort, especially if you plan in advance. Here’s what you need to know.

Why Does China Have the Great Firewall?

In the 1980s, former Chinese leader Deng Xioping famously stated: “If you open the window for fresh air, you have to expect some flies to blow in.” It was his belief that China would encounter greater outside influence as the country’s economy developed, which was a concern for government officials.

The Internet became widely available in China in the mid-1990s, and by the end of that decade the government had launched the Golden Shield Project. This was the collective name for a series of projects related to surveillance and security, including the Great Firewall of China.

The Great Firewall serves many purposes for the Chinese government. First, censorship allows the government to at least partially control the flow of information into the country. The Chinese Internet sticks to the party line, reinforces the government narrative, and silences dissenting voices.

Second, the GFW has fostered an economy that promotes homegrown Chinese companies. With global tech giants banned or strictly regulated, Chinese companies can flourish in their place, often mimicking and optimizing their strategy for the Chinese market.

As a result, you can find“Chinese Uber” (Didi), “Chinese GrubHub/Seamless” (Meituan, Sherpa’s, etc), “Chinese Twitter” (Weibo), “Chinese Facebook” (WeChat), and “Chinese Google Search” (Baidu). We’ve put together a list of a dozen such local, unblocked travel apps and sites for China.

Note: The GFW is not in effect in the Special Administrative Regions such as Hong Kong and Macau, but Chinese authorities likely still closely monitor traffic from these regions.

The Great Firewall of China is a vast, sophisticated system, but from a user’s perspective, functions in a straightforward manner. If you try to access blocked content in China — for example, Facebook — the website simply doesn’t load.

It will appear as if the website is continually attempting to load. You won’t be informed that it’s censored, but the message is clear: you’ve been blocked by the Great Firewall.

So, how does the GFW actually work? There are many methods employed by Chinese authorities. While you don’t need to understand them in order to bypass them, it’s useful to know what’s happening behind the scenes. Here’s a quick look at some of the most common methods:

IP Address Blocking — this approach blocks access to certain IP addresses, meaning the user’s device can’t connect to the server at the other end.
DNS Spoofing or DNS Cache Poisoning — when you try to access a website by name, your device uses a DNS server to request the IP address associated with that name. The GFW “poisons” the DNS response, returning an incorrect or corrupt address.
URL Filtering — this method filters for sensitive keywords, and simply blocks websites based on these words and phrases.
Corporate Censorship — Chinese companies are legally responsible for their online content, and can be strictly punished if they share forbidden information. For this reason, they often block such content from their platforms.
Manual & A.I. Censorship — for a while, censorship was manually performed by Chinese civil servants, who would monitor, remove, and edit online content. In recent times, however, artificial intelligence (A.I.) has increasingly taken over this type of work.
VPN Blocking – the Chinese government implements measures to block traffic that looks like it comes from a virtual private network (VPN), and there has been a general crackdown on VPNs since President Xi came to power. VPN providers actively work against the blocks, however, and certain VPNs still work in China at time of writing.

The easiest way to get around the Great Firewall of China right now is to use a virtual private network. With a VPN, you can anonymize your identity online by “spoofing” your location. While you may be in Shanghai, you’ll look like you’re in, say, Sweden or the United States.

From the technical side of things, VPNs create a private network (i.e. your network) within a public network like the Internet, hiding and securing the data you’re sending and receiving. That data is encrypted, which means the contents can’t be viewed by anyone in the middle — including, in this case, the Chinese government.

Once you’re in China, it’s much more difficult to install a VPN. The websites where you sign up and download the software tend to be blocked, and most VPN apps have been removed from the Chinese iOS app store. Make sure you get set up before you go.

As of October 2018, ExpressVPN is the leading VPN for getting around the Great Firewall of China, and costs from $6.67 per month, with a 30-day money-back guarantee. The company has 2000+ servers in 148 cities across 94 countries, and has been consistently rated as the top VPN service for use in China.

Compatible with a range of platforms as a stand-alone app or browser extension, you can connect up to five devices per plan. ExpressVPN is hands-down the most popular service for use in China, but there are alternatives that also typically work well — VyprVPN has similar pricing, while AstrillVPN costs a little more.

Once you’ve selected your VPN service, download it for all the laptops, tablets, and smartphones you plan to bring into China. If you’re using ExpressVPN, take your pick from the apps for MacOS, Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android.

As well as installing it on your devices, it’s worth also using it as a browser extension for Chrome, Firefox, or Safari. When you use the ExpressVPN browser extension, it can not only change the perceived location of your IP address, but spoof your HTML5 geolocation as well.

ExpressVPN also has instructions for setting up various brands of router so that all traffic goes via the VPN, regardless of the device it comes from. While that’s no so important for travelers who are only in the county for a few days or weeks, it’s well worth considering if you’re living in China for any length of time.

Note: VPN plans typically permit at least two or three devices to be used per subscription. Depending on how many devices you’re traveling with, you may not need to buy multiple plans.

Before leaving for China, test your VPN to confirm it works properly and that you know how to use it. To do this, access the VPN software via your device and/or browser, then choose which server you’d like to use. Be sure to connect to a country such as Iceland or Estonia that’s known for its Internet freedom.

Once the VPN is running, try loading a few web pages. When using search engines like Google, you may notice some results appearing in the local language. That’s a good sign, since it confirms the site thinks you’re accessing it from the spoofed location.

If you’re particularly security-conscious, you can also test for VPN leaks, including DNS, IP address, and WebRTC information. ExpressVPN has an open-source testing suite, available on GitHub.

Tested your VPN and confirmed it works properly? You’re ready to go.

People in China circumvent the GFC for many reasons — conducting research, using foreign social media, checking out global trends, and more. Chinese club kids find creative inspiration on Instagram, while academics in China depend upon open Internet access for their research.

The Chinese government is certainly aware that VPNs are commonly used. In a moment of absolute absurdity, Fang Binxing (the architect of GFC), even used one during a lecture in 2016! Historically, at least, VPNs have been sort-of tolerated in China.

Things are changing, however. The government has cracked down on VPNs since President Xi took office, and many have become slower, less reliable, and less easily accessible over time. As mentioned earlier, Apple even removed VPNs from its Chinese app stores in 2017. This means that even with the best efforts of VPN companies, what works today may not work tomorrow.

As a result, when it comes to bypassing the Great Firewall, it’s worth staying informed about alternative approaches. Tor browsers, decentralized VPNs that use blockchain technology, and ShadowSocks, an open-source proxy that functions differently than a VPN, are all potential solutions.

There isn’t one simple answer that’s guaranteed to work forever, but with so many people wanting access to a free and unrestricted Internet in China, they’ll always find a way!

[sjennison]

@penghubingzhou but what you don't understand is that the very fighting you're doing for your country right now, to most people here, seems childish, immature, and you're consistently not understanding people's messages. You're not the only one acting like that, and I'd caution all parties involved to not devolve into personal insults or even worse, blatant racism, but at the end of the day, you're making your country look worse, not better.

[ghost]

@penghubingzhou Trump is an idiot lmao.

At least we have freedom to hate him over here! Bet you Chinese wish you had that

[Avalancheeee]

americans, unlike you, don't get arrested and sent into a fucking uranium mine for having their own opinion

[Avalancheeee]

what's on the dinner menu today?

piece of old moldy bread with salt-seasoned propaganda ?

[ShortRoundDev]

The 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, commonly known in mainland China as the June Fourth Incident (Chinese: 六四事件, liùsì shìjiàn), were student-led demonstrations in Beijing (the capital of the People's Republic of China) for the establishment of basic human and press rights and against the Communist-led Chinese government in mid-1989. More broadly, it refers to the popular national movement inspired by the Beijing protests during that period, sometimes called the '89 Democracy Movement (Chinese: 八九民运, bājiǔ mínyùn). The protests were forcibly suppressed after Chinese Premier Li Pengdeclared martial law. In what became known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, troops with assault rifles and tanks fired at the demonstrators trying to block the military's advance towards Tiananmen Square. The number of civilian deaths was internally estimated by the Chinese government to be near or above 10,000.

[Avalancheeee]

[Logiar]

China loses more deaths to accidents and shit driving per day than americans do to gunshots in an entire year lmao

as I know ,US has gunshot for about at lease a week a day and death at least 10 people

You know why you know that? Because USA is very public about their crime statistics. You wanna know who isn't?

[ShortRoundDev]

China loses more deaths to accidents and shit driving per day than americans do to gunshots in an entire year lmao

as I know ,US has gunshot for about at lease a week a day and death at least 10 people

How many uyghurs and falun gong did China slaughter? How many Chinese did they slaughter in Tiananmen Square 1989?

[hkcharles]

it is funny to see some Chinese developers defending a totalitarian regime on GitHub while the citizens can not even legally access to google, facebook or wikipedia.

And they assume they understand the world more than others, or their government is more empowered by the people than other democratic states.

Why don't you use Chinese developed software and repositories if you are that patriotic? pathetic.

[ShortRoundDev]

How many uyghurs and falun gong did China slaughter? How many Chinese did they slaughter in Tiananmen Square 1989?
like white dog killed million of indians in 1770s hun?

10,000 people were murdered by your government 30 years ago. Millions of Uyghur are being murdered today

[Logiar]

You know why you know that? Because USA is very public about their crime statistics. You wanna know who isn't?

as I Know， this data is public in China too.

Post your sources then, go google Tinnamen Masscare on your computer right now and see what happens

then you should go to see CCTV 13 and Ifeng and read the news carefully.

You mean your state controlled channel which is known to spread false propaganda?

[proteriax]

alright I’ll bite, what makes you think that as a foreigner you get to tell Americans can and cannot say on an American website? why can’t we get to police anti-American contents on Chinese internet then?

[Logiar]

You know why you know that? Because USA is very public about their crime statistics. You wanna know who isn't?

as I Know， this data is public in China too.

Post your sources then, go google Tinnamen Masscare on your computer right now and see what happens

then you should go to see CCTV 13 and Ifeng and read the news carefully.

You mean your state controlled channel which is known to spread false propaganda?

so why dare you watch goverment monitored website?

wat?

[ShortRoundDev]

How many uyghurs and falun gong did China slaughter? How many Chinese did they slaughter in Tiananmen Square 1989?
like white dog killed million of indians in 1770s hun?

10,000 people were murdered by your government 30 years ago. Millions of Uyghur are being murdered today

So why an I here?

Because china is run by Han Chinese

[Logiar]

You know why you know that? Because USA is very public about their crime statistics. You wanna know who isn't?

as I Know， this data is public in China too.

Post your sources then, go google Tinnamen Masscare on your computer right now and see what happens

then you should go to see CCTV 13 and Ifeng and read the news carefully.

You mean your state controlled channel which is known to spread false propaganda?

so why dare you watch goverment monitored website?

wat?

don‘t tell me you don't know Edward Snowden

Of course I do. Your previous question makes no sense though.

[SuperUserNameMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujk8spsLA_Q
??

[proteriax]

If any American is reading this, don’t forget to vote guys.

[Avalancheeee]

Yet another victim of the Chinese regime

lmao sending love n kisses to the uranium mines

[timvisee]

Lock creating new issues. This can be done in the repository settings.

[proteriax]

@notepadgodie admitting ban evasion, always a solid strategy to not get banned for violating ToS

[mrhugo13]

[lhprojects]

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.
The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.
What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

But not in official release note.

[jdabs]

Just wanted to post in this epic bread. Open source projects don't have to bend a knee for profits, Winnie

[81Denton]

Please include me in the screencap

[devenblake]

Jesus Christ, guys.

An open-source project like this shouldn't be involved in politics because it is not inherently political. Every China-related issue should be removed immediately, and the posters banned. The update title itself is not political by itself; the request to end a slaughter is in the benefit of all of us humans and it's probably good that Notepad++ is helping spread awareness of the massacres happening right now.

The Hong Kong protests are politics, and the update title did not directly reference them. At all. Neither did it reference the Chinese government and administration or their fascism. I haven't fully digested everything that's happening right now though so maybe N++ did in another statement or something.

Not only should the spammers be banned from N++ but they should probably be banned from Github for engaging in spam/mob behavior. "Please include me in the screencap" and "Just popping in this epic bred" are also spam.

[xezno]

Not only should the spammers be banned from N++ but they should probably be banned from Github for engaging in spam/mob behavior. "Please include me in the screencap" and "Just popping in this epic bred" are also spam.

This seems a little too far, doesn't it? We've already got a number of spammers that are creating issue after issue that should be banned; there's no real use in banning the people that are just commenting on them.

[Qu3tzal]

Some very active accounts (with a true history of participation on Github, not accounts created for the spam) have been banned which already decreased the number of comments (this issue had +150 comments a few hours ago).

If you find an account that has a "true" history and is writing insults/spamming it is worth to take 2 minutes to report them.

[jdabs]

Yes, ban active contributors for merely using legitimate features to make harmless comments. They are clearly the source of the spam according to your deep research

[81Denton]

In all honesty, I'd just report the wumaos to GitHub and move on. There is nothing to be gained in arguing with state-sponsored actors.

It's a bit sad that Microsoft doesn't seem to offer proper anti spam measures though.

[Andre601]

Is it actually allowed to post images on GitHub depicting violence, blood and gore? I don't think so which is why I would like if either the authors of those comments (@Avalancheeee and @collinoswalt) would remove the images, or the maintainer of this repo would do that.

Before saying anything. I have nothing against you guys giving your opinion, but this doesn't make posting images of violence, gore, blood, and inhuman stuff okay by any means. There are other places for this but GitHub is none of them.

I also filed a report to GitHub staff, so that they can look into this and ban/remove the users that made those spam issues. In the mean time do I hope that the people of NP++ blocked (most of) them to prevent any future spam or at least reduce it.

Links to the comments:
https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/6509#issuecomment-547840632
https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/6509#issuecomment-547841590

[jdabs]

In all honesty, I'd just report the wumaos to GitHub and move on. There is nothing to be gained in arguing with state-sponsored actors.

It's a bit sad that Microsoft doesn't seem to offer proper anti spam measures though.

Microsoft does but on a more macro scale. State sponsorship from China has led to GitHub getting dossed to the point of going offline. This is I think a very interesting development in open source work and it's not going to be pretty in the future, so we have to get used to it. Just my thoughts

[xezno]

It's a bit sad that Microsoft doesn't seem to offer proper anti spam measures though.

While it is disappointing, you could still argue that it hasn't actually been 100% necessary until now because events like this don't really occur that often.

[Qu3tzal]

@jdabs Not contributors to this repo but others. For example this user: https://github.com/AndroidLMY has a "true" account history but spammed issue (the #6481)

[protonchang]

What exactly is going on here?

[xezno]

What exactly is going on here?

People (mainly from China) are getting worked up over a recent controversial release of Notepad++ but instead of fostering clean discussion have taken to spamming multiple new issues, containing death threats and vulgar behaviour / language, instead.

[Qu3tzal]

@protonchang Notepad++ released the last version with the title "Free Uyghurs", pro-Chinese people came and spammed the issues (1500~2000 issues created in ~10h) and it got sometimes pretty heated in the comments of these issues. This issue was then created to try to sort out the true issues and the spam ones but it got unmanageable. Then a lot of arguing happened here between (mainly) a pro-China (who got later banned) and other users.

[protonchang]

@Qu3tzal @xezno
I see. Thanks for the tip.

It shouldn't take too much time to clean those spam issues.

[yookoala]

In the free countries around the world, people are free to express political views wherever they want. Its not unheard of that you'd see protest in sport events, or political views in commercial product.

And inheritently open sources software movement, which centered on the people's freedom and right to access programming software and knowledge, is deeply political. People fight for years for a world where you can make phones with a free and open source system (Android). This is politics in action.

In the spirit of supporting freedom of other fellow human being, it is a respectful move to name a software release as an endorsement to freedom of people.

It is only childish to say that an open source developer is bound to separate politics and technology.

[devenblake]

What ? are you saying you're commenting about something you don't understand ?

If I found that my understanding was incorrect I would have edited my comment on the matter.

[Mikotochan]

公道自在人心，正义终将到来。

eeeeeeeeh, not really

[Ratstail91]

You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea，But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

nope,but can access by VPN. I'm also the one in it.

VPN usage to evade the blocks is legal in China?

so many questiones, you should first learn China then to judge it.

I'm asking questions. Not judging. Isn't asking questions a natural step of learning?

Not in China.

[hinlong]

贵国的政权如此脆弱，以至于您必须如此激烈地捍卫它吗？

如果有人说帮印第安人建国，不知道北美的白狗黑狗们怎么想。在以自由言论为借口发布一些不正当言论的时候想想，为什么那么多人恶心你们

[changev]

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

This is not about criticizing. This is about criticizing based on truth or delusion. I can make sure that most of the Chinese(include myself) will support you or this author if the criticizing is based on truth.
Please understand that all these people are angry with bias and misinterpreted facts but not the criticizing itself.

[changev]

In the free countries around the world, people are free to express political views wherever they want. Its not unheard of that you'd see protest in sport events, or political views in commercial product.

And inheritently open sources software movement, which centered on the people's freedom and right to access programming software and knowledge, is deeply political. People fight for years for a world where you can make phones with a free and open source system (Android). This is politics in action.

In the spirit of supporting freedom of other fellow human being, it is a respectful move to name a software release as an endorsement to freedom of people.

It is only childish to say that an open source developer is bound to separate politics and technology.

No need to to separate politics and technology.
The author can express political views. So I think the others can express agreed or disagreed views.
If only the author can express but forbid the others, this is dictatorial but not free.

[Bluedz]

What an offensive title ！ Stop do this, do you know how many people in china.？how many chinese people even never know what happened here？This's a thoroughly discriminatory and unfair title. shame on you!
If someone has right to say anything include humiliating the other's ethnic group， then he should be ready to bear the anger of the other side！

[Qu3tzal]

@Bluedz Asking to remove "China-related issues" meant removing both issues that were pro-China and anti-China. It's not discriminatory nor unfair.

[Bluedz]

@Bluedz Asking to remove "China-related issues" meant removing both issues that were pro-China and anti-China. It's not discriminatory nor unfair.

@Qu3tzal
If so, I think your intention is correct.
But I must point out that I think your title is too simple and broad, and very misleading. And I think the title is disrespectful to my country, especially who actually created the conflict? Maybe I am more sensitive, but this is the real feeling as a Chinese! So I hope you can modify the title, at least to describe your meaning more completely. This is not excessive!

[Bluedz]

@Qu3tzal
More I want say:
I don't hope this method() to actually lead to: political attacks can be launched freely, but the opposition must be collectively suppressed. Only insulting speech can be stopped.

I think we should adhere to the principle that technology is not affected by politics. But what happened should be treated fairly. It would be unjust to abolish the victim's right to express anger, let alone let the initiator continue his actions without responsibility (especially if the truth has not yet been confirmed).
I want the technological world to be independent of politics. We should be magicians who can change the world, not politically motivated activists. Show more code instead of more words!

[Qu3tzal]

pro China + anti China = (pro+anti) China
pro + anti = 1
1 China = China

Therefore the title is correct.

More seriously, this issue is closed. There is no need to edit the title.

It would be unjust to abolish the victim's right to express anger

We actually did not. Some pro-China commenters were not insulting and multiple debates ensued, in respect of free speech. Only the insulting and spamming pro- and anti-China commenters where reported/banned.

technology is not affected by politics

Even if we would like that to be true, as all human interactions, it is affected by politics.

[Bluedz]

pro China + anti China = (pro+anti) China
pro + anti = 1
1 China = China

Therefore the title is correct.

More seriously, this issue is closed. There is no need to edit the title.

It would be unjust to abolish the victim's right to express anger

We actually did not. Some pro-China commenters were not insulting and multiple debates ensued, in respect of free speech. Only the insulting and spamming pro- _and_ anti-China commenters where reported/banned.

technology is not affected by politics

Even if we would like that to be true, as all human interactions, it is affected by politics.

All right, all right...

At the same time, please allow me to add a star to your code!

[Creepercdn]

Good job.