Nemo: Nemo should offer "Date Created" as a method to order files

[Pointedstick]

Nemo can order files by Date Modified and Date Accessed, but not Date Created. It should.

[dalcde]

Linux filesystem does not store file creation date.

[Pointedstick]

I thought ext4 had that functionality…?

[dalcde]

https://www.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2006-October/msg00015.html

afaik it's not working now:

  File: ‘TODO’
  Size: 118         Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 806h/2054d  Inode: 928604      Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: ( 1001/  dexter)   Gid: ( 1001/  dexter)
Access: 2013-10-19 11:39:33.567086833 +0800
Modify: 2013-10-19 11:47:03.529430040 +0800
Change: 2013-10-19 11:47:03.529430040 +0800
 Birth: -

[rodrigograca31]

+1
I've downloaded a bunch of youtube videos (one playlist) and now they are not ordered because "Date Accessed" changes every time I open one of them, and "Date Modified" doesn't match the order they were downloaded...

[DrupaListo-com]

+1
In shell's stat command we got 3 dates, for example (this is for a youtube video dl-ed with youtube-dl):
Access: 2013-12-22 05:29:38.000000000 +0200
Modify: 2013-12-22 05:29:38.000000000 +0200
Change: 2016-06-12 12:02:56.526821139 +0300

Nemo allows us to add columns for Access, Modify, but not for Change, which in the case of youtube-dl-ed vid is file's creation on our PC.

So please add that "Change" option as a 3rd column date type in Nemo.

PS. @rodrigograca31 : As a workaround for youtube-dl, try finding in the "man youtube-dl" how to create the file with all 3 dates = now. I found it! Use the --no-mtime option!

          Do not use the Last-modified header to set the file modification time

I tested it and now all 3 dates are == now.

Link: File date · Issue #4667 · rg3/youtube-dl : https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/4667#issuecomment-69359749

PS2. @dalcde I dont know exactly what u mean by: "Linux filesystem does not store file creation date.", but you are very wrong. I think you meant ATIME : There are ways to make a linux FS not store file's(inode's ) atime, which is Access Time, maybe there is a way to disable storing of the other 2 ... but in general all 3 are updated...

[rodrigograca31]

@DrupaListo-com Thanks! I will keep that in mind next time I use youtube-dl :smile:

[danieljpetersen]

I could be misinterpreting this, but it looks like Linux now provides a system call to obtain the file creation date as of kernel 4.11 in the form of statx.

https://lwn.net/Articles/720724/

I only bring this up because it would be a very nice feature to have.

[Pointedstick]

Indeed. It would be great to get this re-opened.

[bes1002t]

Please re-open this issue, it is a mess to watch holiday pictures because I can not change the order to "Date Created". This is a really common feature a file manager should support.

[mtwebster]

https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/commit/1b8030b7f464ec8c1b372d34f74bc0988e888a2c