Hi all,
I work on the Microsoft Java Engineering Group, and I'd like to openly discuss how we can help port LWJGL to Windows on ARM64 devices (e.g. Surface X) as well as macOS on Apple Silicon M1.
Best,
Bruno Borges
Hey Bruno,
Porting LWJGL means getting the CI pipelines to build its native dependencies for the new platform/architecture. LWJGL has a simple core that's easy to build, but the different bindings depend on native libraries with varying implementation quality and build complexity. Some will be trivial to build, others may require simple fixes we can apply on our own, sometimes we may have to wait for the upstream maintainers to do the work. A few might even be impossible to build. In any case, we don't need every dependency to release LWJGL and our build customizer can handle platforms/architectures with missing bindings.
I'm guessing that Microsoft is mostly interested in getting Minecraft to run on ARM64. We could focus on bindings that Minecraft uses first, deal with the rest later. Those most likely include: GLFW, OpenGL, OpenAL and stb. Could you please confirm and check if they use anything else?
We have a separate account for CI (LWJGL-CI). Each repository has a single "LWJGL CI" commit on top of the upstream commits. This commit includes the build scripts and any fixes that need to be applied. When the binding is updated, the CI commit is rebased on top of the new upstream commit. This keeps the history clean and enables interested users to easily identify in which state each binding has been built (it's always the HEAD~1 commit). There are two interesting files in each CI commit: .travis.yml and appveyor.yml (note: we completely overwrite those files if they exist in the upstream project). We use Travis CI for Linux and macOS builds, AppVeyor for Windows builds. Each build file contains a matrix of builds for the various architectures. Artifacts are uploaded to LWJGL's S3 build bucket. Before opening a PR and while testing a new build, you probably want to comment out the awscli installation and aws s3 cp commands, to avoid build errors. Ideally, replace them with your own upload procedure to test the artifacts.
As a test, I got GLFW to build on Windows ARM64 and macOS ARM64. It was straightforward:
One problem is that I don't have any hardware to test on, but I'm getting:
dumpbin /HEADERS glfw.dll | findstr machine
AA64 machine (ARM64)
for https://build.lwjgl.org/nightly/windows/arm64/glfw.dll and
file libglfw.dylib
libglfw.dylib: Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library arm64
for https://build.lwjgl.org/nightly/macosx/arm64/libglfw.dylib.
I've hit a showstopper. Looks like dyncall does not support Windows ARM64 yet. LWJGL uses dyncall to implement upcalls/callbacks from C to Java. It's the only dependency that is statically linked into the core LWJGL shared library.
The only workaround I can think of is going back to libffi, but I'm not looking forward to it at all (it's a pita to build on Windows).
Let me bring this to the attention of the engineering team and see if they can help on this dyncall port.
Thank you so much for the excellent and detailed summary of what needs to be done!
// @lewurm, @luhenry, @mo-beck, and @karianna
Thank you @Spasi, that is really helpful.
I'll look into the dyncall port to Windows+Arm64 probably next week, and report back.
I can test macOS ARM64 with Minecraft, if there's a build available
It seems like someone got LWJGL to build according to this.
Edit: I built dyncall and it seems that it worked!
(Edited to remove sensitive info)
$ ./../configure
Configuration written to Makefile.config
$ make
cd dyncall && /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/make all
cc -c -o dyncall_vector.o /dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_vector.c
cc -c -o dyncall_api.o /dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_api.c
cc -c -o dyncall_callvm.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_callvm.c
cc -c -o dyncall_callvm_base.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_callvm_base.c
cc -c -o dyncall_call.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_call.S
cc -c -o dyncall_callf.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_callf.c
cc -c -o dyncall_struct.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncall/dyncall_struct.c
libtool -static -o libdyncall_s.a dyncall_vector.o dyncall_api.o dyncall_callvm.o dyncall_callvm_base.o dyncall_call.o dyncall_callf.o dyncall_struct.o
cd dyncallback && /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/make all
cc -I dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/../dyncall -c -o dyncall_alloc_wx.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/dyncall_alloc_wx.c
cc -I dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/../dyncall -c -o dyncall_args.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/dyncall_args.c
cc -I dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/../dyncall -c -o dyncall_callback.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/dyncall_callback.c
cc -c -o dyncall_callback_arch.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/dyncall_callback_arch.S
cc -I dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/../dyncall -c -o dyncall_thunk.o dyncall-1.1/./dyncallback/dyncall_thunk.c
libtool -static -o libdyncallback_s.a dyncall_alloc_wx.o dyncall_args.o dyncall_callback.o dyncall_callback_arch.o dyncall_thunk.o
cd dynload && /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/make all
cc -c -o dynload.o dyncall-1.1/./dynload/dynload.c
cc -c -o dynload_syms.o dyncall-1.1/./dynload/dynload_syms.c
libtool -static -o libdynload_s.a dynload.o dynload_syms.o
$ echo $?
0
Sorry for the late update.
I can confirm that dyncall works as-is on macOS+AArch64 (aka. Apple Silicon). There are a few test bugs, I included fixes for them in the patchset below.
They following things had to be done:
The patches are here (generated via hg export): https://gist.githubusercontent.com/lewurm/63a2c93a13d20c3ca53cfe7049dbfd48/raw/e03e859b57fae929ce6ffed5684aa7424a78296f/aarch64-fun.export.patch
@Spasi I'm not sure how you go about https://github.com/LWJGL-CI/dyncall, but I assume you manually import it? I sent the patches to the dyncall maintainers, let's see if they merge it upstream at https://dyncall.org/pub/dyncall/dyncall/ . Also the CI config for Windows+AArch64 needs a slight update: Due to the CMake workaround, it's required to call vcvarsall.bat amd64_arm64 before the first cmake call. I didn't know where to PR such change.
Based on the Apple Silicon instructions that have been posted here ( https://gist.github.com/tanmayb123/d55b16c493326945385e815453de411a ), I tried to port it to Windows+AArch64: https://gist.github.com/lewurm/1b028bf3ebe46b46e406abc00bb580b1 .
Changes:
: to ; in class path stringwslpath -w.dlls for Windows+AArch64 into ./lwjglnatives/Alas the glfw.dll posted by @Spasi doesn't cut it, it fails to initialize some OpenGL context (crash log in the gist). I tried to look into it, but that's not the abstraction layer I usually operate in; I was quite lost to say the least 馃檪 Maybe someone is willing to look into it further, now that dyncall is unblocked.
Looks like you need to install the OpenGL compatibility pack.
Ah cool, OpenGL is literally not supported on Windows 10 for arm64, unless it's exposed as a GL->D3D12 layer, with all the caveats it implies. Well at least it should be enough for Minecraft, but nothing else for now (ie, no GL4, nor GL 3 with commonly supported GL 4 extensions, possibly no performance improvement mods either since some of them use more advanced GL features).
Is OpenGL even supported on the M1 OS version Apple ships? Or do you need some form of GL->Metal translation layer there too?
GL is supported but the version is ancient(GL 1.2) so no shaders a max of 3.3. I ran a test GLFW program that uses 3.3 and it works.
EDIT: Optifine works on Apple Silicon.
GL is supported but the version is ancient(GL 1.2) so no shaders.
EDIT: Optifine works on Apple Silicon.
Could you please tell me how did you make it work?
Use this to get MultiMC(the x86_64 version) to run vanilla 1.16.
After that, install Forge on a 1.16 instance. Add Optifine HD_U_G5 to the instance. I added -Dfml.earlyprogresswindow=false as a JVM argument, though it might not work for you.
optionsof.txt
I attached my Optifine options file.
By the way, can LWJGL2 get ported to arm64?
Looks like you need to install the OpenGL compatibility pack.
Thank you for that @r58Playz! That indeed brings me a bit further with a black window popping up, but the application is shutting down after loading lwjgl_stb.dll (not crashing, or least it doesn't look like it): https://gist.github.com/lewurm/c05450a77e6eacab0dc0f70896d1e21b
I run with -Dorg.lwgl.util.Debug=true -Dorg.lwjgl.util.DebugLoader=true. Are there other flags that would help me to track down what is going on?
jemalloc.dll and are not found. Not all the natives for LWJGL are added to the library folder.opengl32.dll
Thank you for your input @r58Playz!
jemalloc.dllandopengl32.dllare not found. Not all the natives for LWJGL are added to the library folder.
Is that really the problem?
[LWJGL] [14:15:52] [Render thread/INFO]: [STDERR]: Warning: Failed to instantiate memory allocator: org.lwjgl.system.jemalloc.JEmallocAllocator. Using the system default.
[LWJGL] [14:15:52] [Render thread/INFO]: [STDERR]: MemoryUtil allocator: StdlibAllocator
That looks okay to me. Am I missing something?
And regarding opengl:
[14:15:52] [Render thread/INFO]: [STDERR]: Loaded from system paths: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32opengl32.dll
Sounds okay to me as well.
Hello, an update:
The dyncall bindings in LWJGL have now been replaced with libffi. Apologies to @lewurm and anyone else that spent time on getting dyncall to work on ARM64, your effort is much appreciated. However, I believe this was a necessary step towards supporting more platforms/architectures (libffi supports virtually everything we could ever need). This migration has also resolved a range of long-standing issues in LWJGL (e.g. dyncall couldn't handle structs returned by-value) and the new support for upcalls is both simpler and more efficient.
For users that would like to help with the migration process or simply want to experiment with LWJGL, the nightly build (https://www.lwjgl.org/browse/nightly) now includes an up-to-date libffi static library for all current+future supported platform/architectures:
Next step is updating the CI infrastructure. Unfortunately, there was a major setback recently, with the changes to Travis CI's pricing model. The new plan is to migrate everything to Github Actions. I've made some testing with libffi (workflow here) and I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far. It will be great having everything in one place (vs some on Travis CI, some on AppVeyor).
A couple of issues atm:
macos-11.0 runner is in private preview atm and I'm not sure when it's going to be available again.The migration is moving along nicely. I found solutions to the above two issues and the following projects are now building with Github Actions:
LWJGL 3.3.0 snapshot 7 is now available.
The build customizer has been updated to include the two new architectures. You can now use it to download a bundle with the natives or get them via Maven/Gradle (the new classifiers are natives-macos-arm64 and natives-windows-arm64).
Thanks for your work. Currently I check LWJGL 3.3.0 snapshot 7 with the jmonkeyengine. I have problems with the initialization of OpenAL. In jme3, this works like this:
public void createALC() {
device = ALC10.alcOpenDevice((ByteBuffer) null);
ALCCapabilities deviceCaps = ALC.createCapabilities(device);
context = ALC10.alcCreateContext(device, (IntBuffer) null);
ALC10.alcMakeContextCurrent(context);
AL.createCapabilities(deviceCaps);
}
I get then:
java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.lwjgl.system.Checks.check(Checks.java:188)
I guess, you see immediately, how this has to be changed? Thanks!
I just saw, that the OpenAL.dll in 3.2.3 is about 1MB, here it is only 300 KB. Could there be a problem i the build process? (Windows 64 bit and also Windows 32 bit)
Ok, on Windows it is so that the new lwjgl-openal.jar works with the OLD OpenAL.dll on Windows 10. OLD means from 3.2.3 stable. Fr me it looks as if in the generation of the OpenAL binaries, there is something wrong ...
LWJGL 3.3.0 snapshot 8 is available and the OpenAL-Soft natives will now work on Windows. Thanks for reporting this @Helic0pter!
I ran Minecraft on Surface Pro X with native architecture (arm64). Details: https://github.com/MultiMC/MultiMC5/issues/3025#issuecomment-807908542
I wrote here bcuz it's the first result when I type minecraft windows aarch64 in Google
Edit: easier version: https://github.com/adiantek/mc-spx
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We're all green! :tada:
Users with access to ARM hardware should now be able to build and test LWJGL 3 locally on macOS and Windows. Please open new issues (or contact me on Slack/Discord) if you face any trouble.
The first
3.3.0snapshot will also be available very soon (hopefully tomorrow).