Halflife: [DOD] Please stop anti recoil scripting.

[Automatics]

alias +script1 "+lookdown;+attack"
alias -script1 "-lookdown;-attack"
bind mouse1 +script1
cl_pitchspeed 20

changing the pitchspeed value as needed per weapon or using elaborate scripts to nearly automate this is VERY easy to do, please end this.

[BlackShadow]

I tested this out and yeah kinda seems out of place. Makes accuracy go around %90 while crouching. This can be easily done making cl_pitchspeed sv_cheats protected.

[Automatics]

demonstration https://youtu.be/5UqemifUjnE

im pretty sure they tried to fix this a long time ago by making the above script not work by blocking it if the order is "+attack;+lookdown" reversing the order as posted above gets around that.

[afwn90cj93201nixr2e1re]

So, and you think that no one can do it without script and changing cl_pitchspeed?
Just make sense 0.001 and dpi 1x1 it's gonna be same with mouse scripts.
Spread/recoil control can't be handled by server.
Making cl_pitchspeed protected doesn't changing anything, anyone can just patch flags and that's all.
Btw you can just try to get actualy value thru sendcvarvalue, if your game support it.

[BlackShadow]

Not everyone doesn't have macro mouses in their hands. But everyone aware of this script can use this. Pretty much making cl_pitchspeed cheat secure and removing +lookdown/-lookdown will help the issue. Nobody in DoD uses +lookdown/-lookdown anyway. And i'll doubt if macro will be useful in every weapon.

[Automatics]

@afwn90cj93201nixr2e1re what do you mean by patched?

[afwn90cj93201nixr2e1re]

+lookdown/-lookdown

too much stuff related to this, and you wanna delete it?Ok. They still can do same things by calculating angles and other stuff, there's sdk.

Ok, they don't have mouse with memory on board, but they can just download some stupid soft like ahk and other stuff which can do same things for them.

By patched i mean patched.
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/2796#issuecomment-560136376

[Automatics]

oh yeah sure literally nobody in dod is going to even know what that is, but anyway this needs to be stopped somehow.

[BlackShadow]

+lookdown/-lookdown

too much stuff related to this, and you wanna delete it?Ok. They still can do same things by calculating angles and other stuff, there's sdk.

Ok, they don't have mouse with memory on board, but they can just download some stupid soft like ahk and other stuff which can do same things for them.

By patched i mean patched.
#2796 (comment)

Actually nothing related +lookdown/-lookdown in DoD. +Lookdown was basically playing Half-Life with keyboard without mouse. Since we're not in 90's anymore. It's safe to remove that function in DoD. And im still pretty sure macro will have problems while replacating this.

[afwn90cj93201nixr2e1re]

Yea, im agree, btw if someone gonna play with joystick or keyboard it's gonna not nice.

[CS-PRO1]

playing DOD with keyboard only/joystick in 2020 and forward? nah.. It's safe to assume it'd never happen