Cwa-wishlist: Personal contact diary

[ouboub]

THIS ISSUE IS CLOSED -

PLEASE MONITOR/CONTRIBUTE IN ONE OF THE LISTED ISSUES HERE: https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-wishlist/issues/310

ORIGINAL POST

Feature description

I best refer to the app (only available for Android) https://www.coronika.app/) Could such features be included in the
App.

1. Import contacts from the iOs or Android native contact app

   1. Add contacts manually

   2. Add a meeting (encounter) with someone (if it occurred longer than 15 min) with the following features

      a. Name

      b. Localization (via GPS)

      c. Date+Time

   3. Show all the meetings in a list that covers the last 14 Days (optionally delete all meetings older than 14 day to keep it tidy).

      1) Show how many meetings you had every day

      2) show how many locations these meetings occur each day

   4. When tested positive: allow to send the meeting as a attachment, containing, the names, localization date+time, either

      a. As an email

      b. Or whatsapp or other messengers

That was also a proposal by Karl Lauterbach
https://www.zeit.de/digital/2020-08/corona-warn-app-coronavirus-eindaemmung-karl-lauterbach-henning-tillmann

regards

Uwe Brauer

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Internal Tracking ID: EXPOSUREAPP-3034

[heinezen]

Hey @ouboub,

Can you also list the features from Coronika that you want in the Corona-Warn-App here on Github? This will make it easier for us to track them.

Thanks.

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Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

[ouboub]

ok, here it goes

1. Import contacts from the iOs or Android native contact app

2. Add contacts manually

3. Add a meeting (encounter) with someone (if it occurred longer than 15 min) with the following features

   a. Name

   b. Localization (via GPS)

   c. Date+Time

4. Show all the meetings in a list that covers the last 14 Days (optionally delete all meetings older than 14 day to keep it tidy).

   1) Show how many meetings you had every day

   2) show how many locations these meetings occur each day

5. When tested positive: allow to send the meeting as a attachment, containing, the names, localization date+time, either

   a. As an email

   b. Or whatsapp or other messengers

[heinezen]

@ouboub Thank you!

Edit: A Jira ticket with the info has now been created 👍 Further updates will be posted and can be discussed here.

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Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

[ouboub]

thanks! Is there a way to watch the progress made on this issue?

[heinezen]

@ouboub It will be discussed internally with the developers and the RKI first. They will decide if and how the feature is implemented. Once there is any concrete update information we can give out on the progress, it will be posted here. So if you are subscribed to this issue, you should be notified if there are any news.

Regards,
CH

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Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

[ouboub]

@ouboub It will be discussed internally with the developers and the RKI first. They will decide if and how the feature is implemented. Once there is any concrete update information we can give out on the progress, it will be posted here. So if you are subscribed to this issue, you should be notified if there are any news.

Regards,
CH

Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

fair enough, thanks

[GisoSchroederSAP]

Beside the manual maintenance/entries for this diary, other users also request logging thoses times and places, where the app retrieved significant contacts (according to time and duration). Even better if the location could be stores (as coordinates) or the interface offers again the chance to manually update the location with a human-readable string , like "super market".
Ideally, those meta information could be used on the server side to calclate "risk clusters" where many persons romp around (super market, street demonstration, Football or Soccer Game...)

[fwilhe]

I had a similar idea when listening to the recent corona virus update podcast. I think even being able to write down a short text description each day as part of the app like "went to restaurant" or "took the bus" might be helpful in case of infection.

[kyklos]

Any update with the Personal contact diary feature available?

[pkreissel]

I would like to add a further idea on this:

The app should alert me, even if I only had a "low risk" encounter during a timeframe, that was manually tagged as "possible cluster situation" in the cluster diary.

For example: Sitting in a poorly ventilated restaurant for hours could be a high risk encounter due to aerosol transmission even if there is enough distance to everyone else in the room. In this case CWA should alert anyone who was in the same room, even if the signal was weak.

This would also nudge people further to use the diary and the app and to understand what cluster situations are and how risky they can be.

However this would require the ENF to give us the exact point in time the risk was detected (see here).

[jucktnich]

@pkreissel this will Not work Fine, because you can't control, so it will be full of spam.

[rvbaer]

Good day,

The app is currently unusable for people who are in frequent professional contact with potentially or real infected people (eg health workers).
These people are well protected during professional activities and have a low risk.

On the other hand, you may have critical contacts in your private sphere without appropriate protection.

The user can currently not differentiate the notifications of the app to unprotected or protected periods. Accordingly, they will ignore indications of an increased risk as they know they had enconters at work.

As a suggestion for improvement, the app should therefore display the time slots of the cristical contact not just by days but preferably by hours. Alternatively, for reasons of data protection, longer periods, such as 3-hour periods, would be better than the current solution.

[rugk]

Good point, @rvbaer and actually interesting use case IMHO.

The user can currently not differentiate the notifications of the app to unprotected or protected periods.

For now, I see one good workaround: Don't have your phone next to you (or disable location services on Android or Bluetooth during these situations.

However, regardless of all of it, I would personally suggest you, @rvbaer to open a new issue describing this as a feature request. Because I actually don't immediately see how a personal contact diary would solve this use case. Maybe there are better ideas for solutions for this use case. (Please fill out the issue template, that would help IMHO.)

[daimpi]

There is this proposal for an encounter/exposure logbook which would probably at least help a little: https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-wishlist/issues/205 but encounters there would probably still be to coarse to distinguish b/c CWA cannot get any information on the time-point of the encounter that is finer than one day.

@rvbaer as a workaround: if you have an Android device I would recommend using the corona-warn-companion app in RaMBLE mode (where you don't even need a rooted device). You can simply download it from the play store together with RaMBLE for free. You then can turn on RaMBLE whenever you actually want to record encounters and you will get an exact date and timestamp for each of them 🙂.

[rvbaer]

Thanks @daimpi for the workaround - Have installed corona-warn-companion and await first results.
This looks like a nice workaround for me.
But it will unfortunatley not be of any help for the several hundredthousands of health care workers who experience the same problem daily.

@rugk

Thanks for your suggestion and support by regarding "The user can currently not differentiate the notifications of the app to unprotected or protected periods" as a intersting use case.

Will follow the advice and open a new issue describing this as a feature request.

[rvbaer]

@rugk thanks

Opened #251 just a second ago

[FHellmann]

A beneficial feature indeed.

I want to add a suggestion:
When the GPS location of each meeting with another person is tracked, this information could be anonymized and send to a public server (e.g., health ministerium) to create a map of high infection spots. This could help investigate the spreading and the places where it takes place the most.
To bring even more dynamic to the App the users could be notified of high-risk locations when entering or getting close to one to avoid these and stay clear of the risk.

[rugk]

GPS is never tracked in the CWA app and as per Google/Apple's policies they are also not allowed to do this. Besides that,
If you have a restaurant hotspot or so where #162 would be implemented (or there is the existing paper trail solution with leaving contact information), you can get the same information anyway.
So IMHO no, it's not a good idea, as this defeats the way the app is built in a private way and could let users worry about their privacy (if the app were collecting GPS signals). Also, this is quite unrelated to this issue/feature request of a contact diary.

[daimpi]

Looks like the diary feature is being targeted for CWA 1.10 (h/t @Ein-Tim): https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-app-ios/pull/1651 🙂.

[MikeMcC399]

The contact journal has been pre-announced for CWA version 1.10 on the Corona-Warn-App Blog today.

[alanrick]

Excellent! I’ve been doing this (Google Keep) since September and found it’s very easy to maintain but when I looked back I’d forgotten many meetings (but I’d found then in the log)

[ouboub]

"MM" == Mike McCready [e-mail] writes:

The contact journal has been pre-announced for CWA version 1.10 on the
Corona-Warn-App
Blog
today.

Does anybody know when this release is supposed to published?

[ouboub]

Excellent! I’ve been doing this (Google Keep) since September and
found it’s very easy to maintain but when I looked back I’d forgotten
many meetings (but I’d found then in the log)

As of today there are at least three contact diary apps in the App Store

1. Coronika (also for android)

2. Cluster diary

3. Kontakt Tagebuch

Before I used diaro which allows you to inform your contact individually
(and also allows your to add via GPS the address) but does not posses
any specific Covid19 tools such as

1. masks

2. distance

3. Ventilation

[Ein-Tim]

@ouboub

Does anybody know when this release is supposed to published?

Should be released in ~early~ January 2021

Edit: Milestone in the Server Repo is set to 10.02.21, but idk if this is only about the 1.10 server version release or also about the mobile Apps.

Edit 2: Maybe we will also see this version earlier....

[dsarkar]

See https://www.coronawarn.app/en/blog/2020-12-24-corona-warn-app-version-1-10-announcement/

[Ein-Tim]

@ouboub
Version 1.10.1 has just been released!

[ouboub]

"ET" == Ein Tim [e-mail] writes:

@ouboub
Version 1.10.1 has just been released!

Hello

I checked 10 minutes ago and it wasn't there, now it is. Thanks for
letting me know. Meanwhile digging in the github repository I think I
know who did most of the that particular code. I tried to write him
directly but did not receive any reply.

I checked the journal. I have to say it is very very rudimentary (also
better than nothing). Things that are missing

1. No import from the iOS contact list possible.

2. No entries for: mask has been used.

3. Distance kept.

4. Outside/inside

5. Cluster?

6. No import of single meetings possible.

Right now, the iOS apps:

1. coronika

2. Cluster diary

3. Kontakttagebuch

Have these features save the last one.

Regards

[jucktnich]

When you add a person wich is a double of a person entered sooner, there should be a dialog wich askes, if you want to

• use the existing
• edit the entry
• use both

[ouboub]

"j" == jucktnich [e-mail] writes:

When you add a person wich is a double of a person entered sooner, there should be a dialog wich askes, if you want to

• use the existing
• edit the entry
• use both

I disagree. I think the better and cleaner solution would be to access
the iOS contact list directly as all the other contact diary apps in iOS do.

[Ein-Tim]

Please note that the contact diary included in version 1.10.1 is "MVP Scope" (Source)
This means that this version only includes the most basic features of a contact diary.

[alanrick]

Excellent! I’ve been doing this (Google Keep) since September and found it’s very easy to maintain but when I looked back I’d forgotten many meetings (but I’d found then in the log)

Just to say I really like the way it's been implemented. Much better than using Keep for this purpose 👏👏👏 (although I've now grown addicted to keeping a short diary for other reasons)

[ouboub]

@alanrick
did you try one of these

Nombre	Language	Access	individual	14 days	mask	out/in	location	Link	Price
		Apple contact	reports	report			via GPS
Contact journal	English	yes	yes	no	no	no	yes	contact journal	28 Euros
Diaro	English	yes	yes	no	no	no	yes	Diaro	free
Cluster diary	English	yes	no	yes	yes	yes	no	Cluster Diary	free
Kontakttagebuch	German	Yes	no	yes	yes	yes	no	kontakt-tagebuch	free
Coronika	English	Yes	no	yes	yes	yes	no	Coronika

[alanrick]

Sorry. No. Keep was good enough. CWA is better.

[Ein-Tim]

This could be closed since the contact diary was introduced with version 1.10.1.
For additional feature requests, I would say, it makes sense to create new Issues.
An overview over them can be found in #310.

[Ein-Tim]

@dsarkar Can you close this?

[dsarkar]

@ouboub, and community. Thanks for all the contributions here. We close this issue now and please monitor/contribute to one of the listed issues here: #310, Many thanks. Best, DS

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Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

[JensF4711]

So, before all these functionality (might) be implemented: Which kinds of contacts should be entered in the contact diary?

What are the criteria?
distance, kind of masks, tightness of masks, activity (speaking, sport, shouting, singing, breathing), altitude difference (of faces), orientation (face to face, back to back, ...), relative velocity, indoor / outdoor, ventilation / air filtering, age of persons, duration, using lipstick, wiping the nose before, gargling before (with ...), wind (direction, velocity), temperature, humidity, kind of glasses / face shield, separating (glass) walls

Or maybe simple the RKI contact person category 1 and 2 ?

According to the law in NRW (Verordnung zum Schutz vor Neuinfizierungen mit dem Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2(Coronaschutzverordnung – CoronaSchVO) Vom 7. Januar 2021 § 2 ) a contact is equal to a distance below 1.5 m (part 1b) without separating (glass) walls or when one must wear a mask (part 2). But this is only for NRW.

Maybe as a fast solution the contact definition could be put in the app as a helping text.

P.S.:
The effect of aerosols can be computed by a tool from the Max-Planck-Institut für Dynamik und Selbstorganisation Göttingen

[JensF4711]

As notice in the documentation a export of the diary is already possible. For me it seems that transfer them via Threema is possible - but this is not mention in the documentation. I am sorry - as I am not an App developer I not succeeded to find the corresponding part in the source code.

By the way: Transferring the diary via Signal, Telegram, Threema, Matrix PGP encrypted mail (to the public health department) would be good - but I think this is already on the wish list.

[heinezen]

So, before all these functionality (might) be implemented: Which kinds of contacts should be entered in the contact diary?

What are the criteria?
distance, kind of masks, tightness of masks, activity (speaking, sport, shouting, singing, breathing), altitude difference (of faces), orientation (face to face, back to back, ...), relative velocity, indoor / outdoor, ventilation / air filtering, age of persons, duration, using lipstick, wiping the nose before, gargling before (with ...), wind (direction, velocity), temperature, humidity, kind of glasses / face shield

There are no explicit criteria defined except for "places where you were/people who you met". Generally, every user can decide for themselves which contacts or places they enter. However, we could include a more general guidelines. If you think this is a good idea, please make a separate issue for this.

The criteria you name are often very difficult to assess, e.g. wind velocity. But we have feature requests for free text fields (#314) and indicators for the eneral envorinment (#308).

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Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

[JensF4711]

There are no explicit criteria defined except for "places where you were/people who you met". Generally, every user can decide for themselves which contacts or places they enter. However, we could include a more general guidelines. If you think this is a good idea, please make a separate issue for this.

The criteria you name are often very difficult to assess, e.g. wind velocity. But we have feature requests for free text fields (#314) and indicators for the eneral envorinment (#308).

Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team

I think the RKI has to define the needed criteria. I guess the public health departments will ask questions about the kind of the contacts after they have received lists / names. Thus, the issue has to be created by somebody else.