Community: Public Ansible Project Meeting Agenda - May 2020

[bcoca]

Please leave a comment regarding any agenda item you wish to discuss. If you don't show up for the meeting, your item will be skipped. If your IRC nick is different from your Github username, leave that as well.

See https://github.com/ansible/community/blob/master/meetings/README.md for the schedule

Once an item has been discussed it should get checked off.

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[bcoca]

From april and @tremble https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/532#issuecomment-620172358

• [x] https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/69190 - behaviour of the various 'Required' options in AnsibleModule

[bcoca]

Meeting ended Tue May 5 20:09:25 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-05/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-05-19.05.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-05/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-05-19.05.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-05/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-05-19.05.log.html

[bcoca]

Meeting ended Thu May 7 15:03:57 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-07/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-07-15.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-07/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-07-15.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-07/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-07-15.00.log.html

[bcoca]

• [x] https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/69087 accept unvault lookup in base? (possibly a vault one also?)
• [x] https://github.com/bcoca/collection/issues/3 new home for cannonical collection layout? (not example nor commented, though we should have those too)

[ericsysmin]

[ ] [ansible/ansible#69087](https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/69087) accept unvault lookup in base? (possibly a vault one also?)
[ ] [bcoca/collection#3](https://github.com/bcoca/collection/issues/3) new home for cannonical collection layout? (not example nor commented, though we should have those too)

I was introduced to https://github.com/ansible-community/protogen by @ssbarnea is it possible we can use this with that canonical collection layout to help promote proper testing?

[bcoca]

diff things, that is 'collection repo', while the repo above just reflects 'pure collection structure reference'

[ericsysmin]

Got it.

[bcoca]

• [x] https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/66650 do we change the default or we leave as is and remove deprecation?

[s-hertel]

Meeting ended Tue May 12 19:41:50 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
15:41 Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-12/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-12-19.03.html
15:41 Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-12/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-12-19.03.txt
15:41 Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-12/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-12-19.03.log.html

[bcoca]

Meeting ended Thu May 14 15:36:29 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-14/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-14-15.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-14/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-14-15.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-14/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-14-15.01.log.html

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69291 ansible-test: allow version_added tests for collections

• [x] ansible/proposals#178 with first part of implementation ansible/ansible#69631 (was: a discussion on how version numbers should be handled that are potentially cross-collection; see also https://github.com/ansible/community/wiki/Version-numbers-for-documentation-deprecation-removal-in-the-collection-world)) (see below)

[jamescassell]

• [x] missing Proposal for Collections -- what are its goals and features? https://github.com/ansible/proposals/issues?q=sort%3Aupdated-desc+collection

[bcoca]

Meeting ended Tue May 19 20:11:26 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-19/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-05-19-19.05.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-19/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-05-19-19.05.txt
[16:11] Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-19/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-05-19-19.05.log.html

[bcoca]

Meeting ended Thu May 21 16:09:19 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-21/core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-21-15.12.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-21/core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-21-15.12.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-21/core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-21-15.12.log.html

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/proposals#178 with implementation ansible/ansible#69680

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69313 (name of changelog generator will change, this is mainly the question whether ansible/ansible is willing to use the new one instead of sticking to the one in ansible/ansible it's now called antsibull-changelog, part of antsibull, and now also installable from pypi)

[bcoca]

Meeting ended Tue May 26 20:10:04 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-26/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-26-19.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-26/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-26-19.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-26/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-26-19.01.log.html

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69727 implement remaining missing "deprecation by date" things, make proper deprecation of modules in collections possible (both by date and by version) without adding wrong data or ignoring ansible-test sanity errors.

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/proposals#178 with implementation ansible/ansible#69680

[felixfontein]

Meeting ended Thu May 28 18:06:16 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-28/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-28-15.31.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-28/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-28-15.31.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-28/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-05-28-15.31.log.html

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69795 ansible-doc: properly handle suboptions
• [x] ansible/ansible#69796 parse return docs at same place where module docstring is parsed (and tag versions in it). Q: make invalid return YAML also an error, or soft-fail?

[s-hertel]

Meeting ended Tue Jun 2 20:14:19 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
16:14 Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-06-02/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-06-02-19.09.html
16:14 Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-06-02/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-06-02-19.09.txt
16:14 Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-06-02/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting.2020-06-02-19.09.log.html

[jamescassell]

• [x] https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/64474 regex_search,findall groupdict

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69796 enforce that return value docs are YAML in ansible-doc (like DOCUMENTATION)

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69926 Inter-collection deprecation revisited (replace tagged versions/dates with extra fields). Comes with ansible/ansible#69935 to make Ansible 2.9 not crash when modules/plugins use new AnsibleModule.deprecate/Display.deprecated calls etc.

[jamescassell]

• [x] separate-filter version of groupdict https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/69997

[felixfontein]

• [x] ansible/ansible#69796 resp. the question whether plugin names should be FQCN in the plugin docs
• [x] ansible/ansible#69742 resp. the question how tombstoning entries in ansible_builtin_runtime.yml / runtime.yml should look like