Cataclysm-dda: Working with a chainsaw is unreasonably exhausting

Created on 13 May 2019  路  7Comments  路  Source: CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA

Describe the bug

Using a chainsaw to chop down trees or cut trunks into logs makes your char tired in matter of hours.

Steps To Reproduce

  1. Have a good night's sleep. Wake up feeling well rested.
  2. Drink some water until you're hydrated. Grab a chainsaw (I used electric chainsaw, but suspect that a regular fueled one has the same issue)
  3. Start felling trees.
  4. Your thirst meter will drop down from "hydrated" to "thirsty" in less than an hour. In a few hours you'll get tired. In about 6 hours of work you'll be exhausted.

Expected behavior

I expect to not get tired so rapidly, because I am using a chainsaw. I get that woodwork is tiresome activity. I get it that my char gets tired after chopping down a few trees with a wood axe. But it seems like the game applies the same effort penalty to a chainsaw as it does to an axe.

Okay, operating a 6,5 kg chainsaw is not the same as sewing clothes, it should probably be slightly more tiresome. But the current state of things is I can work 6-8 hours bashing trees with my hatchet until I get tired OR I can use a chainsaw and get tired in 2 hours.

(S2 - Confirmed) <Bug> Balance Items / Item Actions / Item Qualities Character / Player

Most helpful comment

I mean, as someone who has personally felled trees with a chainsaw, you're gonna be exhausted within 3-4 hours.

All 7 comments

I mean, as someone who has personally felled trees with a chainsaw, you're gonna be exhausted within 3-4 hours.

Will you also be rapidly dehydrated? I admit I never felled a tree, but somehow it feels that chopping it with an axe should be much more exhausting than using a chainsaw.

Well, chainsaws were probably invented for a reason. If it was easier to use an axe, I don't think chainsaws would see any practical use.

I think the bug here is that axes are too easy to use, not that chainsaws are too straining.

Okay, tweaking axes and making them more straining will partially solve the issue. But the sheer amount of water you need to work with a chainsaw is still insane. We're talking about several L of water in matter of hours.

Yeah, I've noticed this issue myself recently. The actual act of felling the tree isn't the hard part (I've done it myself) The hard part is de-limbing and chopping up the logs and moving them. Using a logging chainsaw makes the task laughably easy compared to chopping with an axe. Currently in-game you can cut down several trees with a chainsaw and then suddenly need an entire night's sleep. That's not right. Not at all.

Still reproducible in 0.E-6177-g 9f4a1b841d despite the new weariness system. After only 2h20m of chopping down trees with an electric chainsaw, I am not just "Moderately Weary" (as would be expected), but also "Tired" (sleepy):

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