Cataclysm-dda: Mutagen Addiction should happen to everyone
Mutagen has an addiction potential but no type, so addiction never occurs.
pisskop
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Looks like the mutagens in that JSON file copy from mutagen, present here, which does have an addiction_type.
Leland
on 15 May 2017
Aye. Youre correct.
Perhaps the more succinct title and issue is that I think mutagen addiction should be a natural side effect of injecting mutagen or eating fetuses instead of locked behind a trait that is fairly rare.
Mutagen addiction only takes hold after a player acquires the mut_junkie traits which is gained via medical or chimeric mutations.
pisskop
on 15 May 2017
Did I mention that copy-from was a bad idea? Pretty sure I did, and it still is.
@pisskop, this needs a much better description. It needs more precision about the problem, and some support for why it needs to change.
kevingranade
on 15 May 2017
Mutagen is viewed as something to be purified away in the game.
Players that seek it do so with limited risk of addiction unless they choose one of the two existing addictive traits.
Much like the traits to cause mutagen or marloss revulsion, the addiction traits are so rare that I personally have never had them. finding several mutagen in a lab with purifier means, to me, that its time to take some mutation before I go to sleep, and purify it away should it be negative.
The game specifies this addiction, but how many people have actually experienced this? We already have an addictive trait, so making a trait to increase the addictive properties of substances is possible.
Making the mutation process addictive justifies having mutates in the wasteland beyond 'radiation, im a freak' and allows for the addiction to exist within the games liberal drug structure.
Assuming that one day we will make the random wandering custom NPCs with mutations work, and flesh out npc interactions, this paves the way to trading mutagen, being robbed for mutagen, hiring people to make it, or any number of other dialogues possible.
The trait is needlessly restrictive; it being a thrill and chemically habit forming to everyone is not only a fairly common trope, but quite easy to imagine since you are injecting a physically exhausting chemical into your body.
Although addiction is somewhat safe to ignore as it stands right now, its addition to the myriad of common addictions adds some role play value too.
pisskop
on 26 May 2017
It seems that you are wrong on the statement that the mutagen addiction can happen only to MUT_JUNKIE characters. Looking at the code, everyone has a chance to become addicted to mutagens. The addiction chance is just very small, more than eight times lower than that of a cigarettes, for example.
Night-Pryanik
on 13 Jan 2018
I have had mutagen addiction from pounding Medical Mutagen.
MxTurner
on 6 Nov 2018
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Mutagen is viewed as something to be purified away in the game.
Players that seek it do so with limited risk of addiction unless they choose one of the two existing addictive traits.
Much like the traits to cause mutagen or marloss revulsion, the addiction traits are so rare that I personally have never had them. finding several mutagen in a lab with purifier means, to me, that its time to take some mutation before I go to sleep, and purify it away should it be negative.
The game specifies this addiction, but how many people have actually experienced this? We already have an addictive trait, so making a trait to increase the addictive properties of substances is possible.
Making the mutation process addictive justifies having mutates in the wasteland beyond 'radiation, im a freak' and allows for the addiction to exist within the games liberal drug structure.
Assuming that one day we will make the random wandering custom NPCs with mutations work, and flesh out npc interactions, this paves the way to trading mutagen, being robbed for mutagen, hiring people to make it, or any number of other dialogues possible.
The trait is needlessly restrictive; it being a thrill and chemically habit forming to everyone is not only a fairly common trope, but quite easy to imagine since you are injecting a physically exhausting chemical into your body.
Although addiction is somewhat safe to ignore as it stands right now, its addition to the myriad of common addictions adds some role play value too.