Buildinggadgets: Config option to disable absolute coords

[ElectroBot]

For packs or players that play without co-ords (the few of us), would it be possible to add a config option to disable the absolute co-ords this mod provides in the copy-paste tool (and have server decide setting in MP).
Thanks

[MajorTuvok]

In my opinion it is upon the player to decide how he/she handles his/her gui and it is not upon a server to dictate a way of how to do it. I'd agree on a client only setting for this, though I don't really see the use.

How did you get to wanting to do this? What is the reasoning behind attempting to force players how they should work with their gui?

[ElectroBot]

A themed server/pack where co-ords aren't meant to be accessible or only accessible after a certain stage of progression.

[MajorTuvok]

I still don't like enforcing gui dtuff from the server though I now at least understand what you intend to do... :)
@Phylogeny @MichaelHillcox what do you make of this?

[MajorTuvok]

@ElectroBot wouldn't it be of more use for you, if we completly prohibited access to given Regions?

[MajorTuvok]

Thinking about that, this could also used by server owners to define certain non-buildable regions or we could allow to specify players as well so that one could ban people entirely...

[ElectroBot]

That could be useful so some (having a server blacklist of chunks/region files, but it doable with other mods like FTB Utilities or Griefprevention).
For the server pack that I'm making it would be best if it were not accessible at all since once a player had the copy/paste tool they could determine their location anywhere and share that knowledge with others.

[MajorTuvok]

Ok, I agree that this might only be doable by completly preventing the absolute coord mode...
Even though I still don't like Servers being able to enforce that, I finally also see why it might be needed. Let's see what the others have to say.

[MichaelHillcox]

I have one question. F3? I sort of get what you're getting at but I don't quite understand the idea behind it. Do you not want players to know where they are? or do you not want players building in anothers players chunk by using the absolute mode? if thats the case then I'll put some time in an implement this as a config mode but I'd like to fully understand the idea behind it :P

[ElectroBot]

F3 co-ords are disabled (in my modpack). Players are given way to access to Signposts, antique atlas and encouraged to make roads/signposts/railways to navigate the world.

[MichaelHillcox]

was not aware you could do that. You do also just have the option of a player using a client side mod to show the cords? if people wanna cheat then they're gunna cheat

[ElectroBot]

True, but if they want to play on a specific server there are a few mods that whitelist/graylist/blacklist client mods which will prevent most cheating.

[MichaelHillcox]

Hacked clients? the options are endless. I get your point to though and as it's a simple edit to make so I think I'll implement it regardless

[ElectroBot]

Any chance of this being added to a 1.12 release?

[MajorTuvok]

Not sure - @MichaelHillcox I don't think you have the time to do that either?

[MichaelHillcox]

I can do it but personally I feel like it's easily gotten around effectively making this pointless. Your call I guess

[MichaelHillcox]

Implemented in 1.14.4
Added in bb8854ef995e82e61786baaea8154e36caffa27b
Released for version: 3.1.0

[ElectroBot]

Thank you for adding this feature albeit in the wrong version.

[MajorTuvok]

To quote @MichaelHillcox from #383:

I've been having issues with 1.12 myself. It's a pain in the a**

Therefore no one can really work on 1.12 anymore - which makes it unlikely that stuff is back ported...

[MichaelHillcox]

Implemented into 1.12.2 - 2.7.4 https://github.com/Direwolf20-MC/BuildingGadgets/releases/tag/2.7.4-1.12.x

[ElectroBot]

Sigh. Just noticed that going into the Edit placement in the Settings menu of the Copy-Paste tool still shows the co-ords (by default start X is 0,0,0 and end X is current co-ords). I'd be awesome if you guys were able to remove this as well. Thanks.

[MichaelHillcox]

If the config is off. The coords button is disabled and thus not set by default. I'm confused on your issue.

[ElectroBot]

Ok. though I screwed up, but found out how to reproduce it.

Both "Default to absolute Coord-Mode" and "Allow absolute Coord-Mode" set to false although I doubt this matters. Whatever co-ords you have, if you right click with the copy-paste tool, it copies the current co-ords into the End X values.

Minecraft: 1.12.2
Forge 14.23.5.2838
Building Gadgets: 2.7.4

[MichaelHillcox]

Screenshot please

[ElectroBot]

[MichaelHillcox]

That's a whole other bug. I'll look into it

[ElectroBot]

Seems that X, Y and Z also have their "polarity" flipped (neg instead of pos and vice versa). Same on default configs.

[MichaelHillcox]

I've never quite understood that menu regardless :P it always seems pointless as selecting with the tool is a lot simpler.

[ElectroBot]

My derp on the "polarity" (its late, but it makes sense since its relative to the start).

yeah. I can see some use for it in adjusting manually (especially if you do multiple operations from far away [not sure if your tools need to be chunkloaded to work])
EDIT For me it doesn't matter if this menu is visible or not.