Brave-browser: In page translation for content

[bsclifton]

Similar to what is offered in Chrome:

• foreign language detected
• small message box shown asking if user would like translation
• button remains in place in URL bar (in case message box is dismissed)

Per https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/237, you should also be able to trigger this process by right clicking on the page and pick Translate from the context menu

[Naigel56]

I want to strongly back this addition. How many of us nowadays are living/working abroad for extensive periods of time? It's really hard to read any non-english local business website (or "non-your-native-language") without any kind of translate plugin. Not to mention the possibility to read some foreign language articles, having an invaluable help while learning a foreign language, and so on.

I like Brave browser but personally this single missing feature is what refrain me from completely dropping Chrome.

[AvraamMavridis]

Exactly @Naigel56

I keep reopening Chrome because I live in Germany and I don't speak the language.
Any time I want to read an email from a german service I have to open Chrome...

[bsclifton]

+1 from @srirambv via https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/237
The popup is presented, but when you click Translate it presents a The page could not be translated message

[iMartyn]

+1 another vote for this, living in a country who's primary language is not my own and the frustrating web devs who believe that location == language.

[Brave-Matt]

+1 from Community: https://community.brave.com/t/setting-the-automatic-language-for-web-pages/34400

[Miyayes]

+1 from Reddit community: https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9mn632/query_regarding_language_translation_on_brave/

[eljuno]

+1 from community https://community.brave.com/t/right-click-translate-to-english-does-not-work/35663?u=eljuno

Version 0.55.18 Chromium: 70.0.3538.67 (Official Build) (64-bit)
English interface
Windows 10 Pro English v1803

Right click > Translate to _language_ not working > Nothing happens

+1 from Community https://community.brave.com/t/traduzione-nuove-pagine/42887?u=eljuno

+1 from Community https://community.brave.com/t/translator-option-not-working/43256?u=eljuno

[sadiqevani]

+1 this would be awesome to have!

[cbatub]

+1 please guys please please please fix it, fix it and Brave is close to perfect.

[NejcZdovc]

cc @mandar-brave @davidtemkin @bbondy for prioritisation

[Th3-A6add0n]

+1 from @srirambv via #237
The popup is presented, but when you click Translate it presents a The page could not be translated message

This is not working, I've to use Google Translator Extention

[ArisAmp]

+1 Right click -> Translate is a plugin to take the browser to the next level.

-For those who want to do that with a plugin, Mate Translate extension works perfectly good for my Brave Browser

[juanguren]

Hey guys, what´s the current status on this plugin/option?

[ArisAmp]

+1
Nothing happens when I click on translate

You need to download and crack mate translate. After install it you can use its plugin to translate pages in Brave Browser

[dwinnert]

+1
Nothing happens when I click on translate

You need to download and crack mate translate. After install it you can use its plugin to translate pages in Brave Browser

Mate Translate does not work well. Many pages I go to Mate will only translate menus and not the body. Highlighting text and translate sucks.

Firefox also has the same issue as Brave in not having a native translator. I use this in Firefox and it works great. Maybe it could be ported over.....

https://github.com/andreicristianpetcu/google_translate_this

[hex0cter]

+1

[2635599]

"I want to strongly back this addition. How many of us nowadays are living/working abroad for extensive periods of time? It's really hard to read any non-english local business website (or "non-your-native-language") without any kind of translate plugin. Not to mention the possibility to read some foreign language articles, having an invaluable help while learning a foreign language, and so on.

I like Brave browser but personally this single missing feature is what refrain me from completely dropping Chrome"

yes the builtin translate featire needs to be added back in. there was no real reason to remove it. brave is fast, responsive, crisp and clean looking, but make no mistake it has faults. the above being one, adding your would ad blocker without anyway to universally turn it off, adding rewards without a way to completely turn it off. the last two as far as i'm concerned are uncompleted features added.

[steferr]

+1

[megalithic]

i find myself needing this more and more..

+1

[hex0cter]

Please enable this feature!
+1

[StefanTod]

I live in the Netherlands and as a non-dutch speaker I use this feature a lot. I switched to Brave yesterday and none of the pages I try to translate work. I don't get the pop up on in the navigation bar asking me to translate it.

Maybe this is related to Chromium missing API keys for communication with the google translate API's.
+1

[tomlowenthal]

Hello everyone. If you want this feature without having to wait, you can install the Google Translate extensions from the Chrome Webstore. That should give you essentially the same functionality as Chrome in the short term.

For those wondering why we haven't just implemented this: Chrome's implementation isn't that privacy-friendly. It effectively involves sending every page you visit to Google so that Google can tell you whether it's in another language and can be translated. Obviously, we're not doing that. So we have a bit more work to do to implement this from scratch.

[2635599]

tomlowenthal AhHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa TRY AGAIN

[bbondy]

I think it'd be perfectly fine to do this if we make the UI say that the strings on the page, if submitted, would be sent up for translation. We'll discuss more internally.
Reason we haven't done it yet is more because we have had other things ahead of it. I agree this needs to be prioritized though.

[j26w]

+1. Really looking forward to this feature! This would be the final piece of the puzzle for me to move 100% over to Brave for web browsing.

[rafael-acioli15]

The extension google translate, allow translate pages, just put in the toolbar and click in the option 'Translate this page'. But few pages is not possible translate, but i can translate many pages with this extension in brave browser. I hope have helped.

[N4rsha]

+1

[bsclifton]

One of our devs, @yrliou, is checking this out now 😄

[jimmi-joensson]

@bsclifton @yrliou Do you have a time schedule for the in page translation by now? I'm from Denmark and living abroad in Latvia, so this feature is really a must for me before I can migrate to Brave.

[FelikZ]

I have similar situation!

[pfuhrmann]

Just switched back to Chrome (sadly) because of this feature missing. Let's hope this will be implemented soon so I can come back.

[theblackturtle]

I have this error too. The translation right click is not work.

[dijonkitchen]

FYI, the Google Translate extension still works on Brave: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-translate/aapbdbdomjkkjkaonfhkkikfgjllcleb/related

[pfuhrmann]

@dijonkitchen extension was mentioned here several times, however, it is by no means replacement to built in translations system.

For once, you have to be translating every single page as you are navigating and it does not remember which sites you requested to translate when you visit next time.

There were some good points mentioned by Brave devs about how Google Chrome is sending API requests to detect whether a page is in other languages than English. I do not care for that, I just need feature when I rick-click and select Translate to English, it will translate a page. No need for detection of languages. And this way privacy-concerned user can decide when to send the request to Google Translate API.

[hex0cter]

Agree with @pfuhrmann that the extension is no way to replace the built-in feature.

Chrome allows language based translation. Therefore users can disable translation of certain languages. It would be even greater if Brave can provide site based translation, just for the security and privacy's sake.

Just an idea.

[bsclifton]

@yrliou is making great progress with this 😄 We have a backend component which will proxy requests, preserving your anonymity. You can view that in detail here:
https://github.com/brave/go-translate

[FelikZ]

@bsclifton thank for sharing
@yrliou that is awesome, thank you for your work. How do you plan to avoid google translate rate limit? AFAI Understand it will run on brave server IPs.

Ref: https://cloud.google.com/translate/quotas

[fernandosouza]

It's working on Nightly version. Thank you, guys.

[manishmaharjan]

@yrliou , do you have any timeline when this feature would be available in the official release? thanks

[bbondy]

You can check the version on this issue in the milestone section: 0.65.x

Then cross reference against our release schedule here:
https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Brave-Release-Schedule

wich gives:
June 4, 2019

You can download a newer build though to try it out today:
Dev channel: https://brave.com/download-dev/ (should get this version within a day if it's not there already)
Nightly channel: https://brave.com/download-nightly/

[LaurenWags]

Verified passed with

Brave | 0.65.98 Chromium: 74.0.3729.131 (Official Build) beta(64-bit)
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Revision | 518a41c1fa7ce1c8bb5e22346e82e42b4d76a96f-refs/branch-heads/3729@{#954}
OS | Mac OS X

• Verified test plan from https://github.com/brave/brave-core/pull/2006
• Confirmed with @yrliou that links within the same domain will be translated (if you chose to translate the page), but clicking thru links to a different domain will not be translated.

Verification passed on

Brave | 0.65.107 Chromium: 75.0.3770.38 (Official Build) beta (64-bit)
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Revision | 3860105745f2b12537da9e9f048f14c3f52ba970-refs/branch-heads/3770@{#618}
OS | Windows 10 OS Version 1803 (Build 17134.523)

• Verified test plan from https://github.com/brave/brave-core/pull/2006
• Logged https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/4532

Verification passed on

Brave | 0.65.107 Chromium: 75.0.3770.38 (Official Build) beta(64-bit)
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Revision | 3860105745f2b12537da9e9f048f14c3f52ba970-refs/branch-heads/3770@{#618}
OS | Linux

• Verified visiting a non-English page automatically prompts to translate the page
• Verified able to translate a page via context menu option Translate to English

[manishmaharjan]

@yrliou , It seems likes after v0.65.118 update, "Translate to English" option is not even available during right clicking in non-english web pages. It was working fine until beta release but seems like something went wrong with this release.

[yrliou]

@manishmaharjan We disabled the translation service in release channel (which the latest version of it is v0.65.118) for now due to cost performance, and we're still working on enabling it in release channel. In the mean time, you might want to grab and use Beta, Dev, or Nightly for now if you want to use the translation service.

[manishmaharjan]

@yrliou , That sounds like the biggest deal breaker. Was waiting more than 2 months for this feature to be released and very sad to hear that the most anticipated feature has been now disabled. Do you have an estimated time frame when this would be released in a stable version?

Also, When you referred as due to cost performance, do you mean google translate rate limit? If yes, how is it being planned further to integrate?

[rebron]

@manishmaharjan I don't have a timeline for you on the translation service hitting release channel.

As @yrliou mentioned, you can try the feature in the Beta channel which is the most like release channel. Alternatively, translation extensions are available for Brave in the Chrome Web store.

We're currently using Microsoft Translate for this service as you'll see in Beta/Dev/Nightly channels. We'd love your feedback on the feature in Beta channel though.

[pfuhrmann]

@rebron what I do not understand is that it was mentioned that cost performance is not good. How is that going to be mitigated in the future releases? Can we expect this feature ever hit stable channel?

[rebron]

@pfuhrmann We're actively working with and evaluating translation providers to come up with a relationship that will get costs structured in a way that makes sense. Yes, the goal is to get this feature out to release channel.

[serpro69]

Thank you for working on releasing it! For some reason the google translate extension is not working for me on Brave, so really looking forward to getting this functionality built-in

[odmera]

Thank, enable this feature!
+1

[pfuhrmann]

@rebron I would be happy to give micro portions of BAT for each translation or on a monthly basis to support this feature. Completely understand that what you guys are creating is open-source and free.

[alirezaghey]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents about how important this feature is. Cheer!

[manishmaharjan]

@bsclifton @yrliou @rebron @bbondy
I wonder if this ticket should still be in open state?
Do you guys happen to have any status update so far with respect to translation providers and releasing this feature? Lots of people would really appreciate if the great work that has been done so far could be enabled in the release channel. :)
Thanks!

[bsclifton]

@manishmaharjan good call- I'll re-open as this is not enabled for our release channel

We're still working through the provider part - @rebron would you be able to give an update?

[danielb2]

Seems like a workaround is to do:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=YOUR_URL_HERE

[imtbl]

Seems like a workaround is to do:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=YOUR_URL_HERE

That does work, although it's causing issues in some cases. E.g., when you want to use a password manager with browser integration. Since the domain will then be translate.google.com (and not the actual website domain), you can't autofill the credentials to log in (unless you add translate.google.com to the domain list in the manager, which will get tedious to select from when you have multiple sites).

I know, that's a first world problem, but still pretty annoying.

I imagine it will also cause issues for browser extensions/user scripts that are meant to access/enhance/modify specific sites for the same reason.

[danielb2]

btw, also to make it easier it's possible to use this together with the search engine manager: chrome://settings/searchEngines?search=search

[manishmaharjan]

@rebron, Has there been any phenomenal progress with respect to translation providers for this feature? We would highly appreciate if you could provide us some update? Thank you :)

[git10135405]

The translation of the webpage into the language you want, this comfortable user experience can not be overemphasized, I also very much hope that it will soon be used in the brave. thank you very much!

[sepehr]

_"I would be happy to give micro portions of BAT for each translation or on a monthly basis to support this feature."_

I happily second this.

[wout]

Today I updated Brave and saw this feature appear. I am not happy about it. Is there a way to disable this pop-up?

I never want to translate a page and I do not want to install the extension. But the pop-up appears every time I visit a page that is not in English. Even every time I visit the same page again, which is quite annoying.

[simrobin]

@wout just found that you can disable it in the language settings (you need to open Language dropdown:

[2635599]

@wout sounds like you have no business going to any site that's not in english. your post is very rude. if i were @simrobin i sure as hell wouldn't help you.

[wout]

@simrobin Thank you so much for pointing that out. :tada: I barely noticed the Language dropdown.

[wout]

@2635599 I live in Europe and regularly visit sites in English, Spanish, Dutch, German and French, all languages I can read very well. If a pop-up appears on every other page you visit, and you can not find how to disable it within a few clicks, you get annoyed.

Feature request:
Provide an option to disable the “Install google translate” pop-up. Something similar to: “Never offer to install this plugin”.

[rickdsanchez]

I would echo the suggestion by @wout

The recent update made Brave very non-friendly to people who speak several languages. The pop-up appears every single time even on the pages that one visited before.

Is there any way to disable this pop-up?

EDIT: It appears that there is a way to disable it on the per-language basis in the "Language" menu in the "Settings". I wonder if it makes sense to have a global "disable translations" checkbox in that pop-up?

[git10135405]

The Google Translate plugin was unable to translate the page and reported an error:
Refused to load the script 'https://translate.google.com/translate_a/element.js?cb=TECB_1E07F158C6FA4460B352973E9693B329&client=tee&hl=zh-CN' because it violates the following Content Security Policy directive: "script-src github.githubassets.com". Note that 'script-src-elem' was not explicitly set, so 'script-src' is used as a fallback.

[kjozwiak]

The Google Translate plugin was unable to translate the page and reported an error

Mind sharing which page you were browsing when you hit the above issue?

[git10135405]

The Google Translate plugin was unable to translate the page and reported an error

Mind sharing which page you were browsing when you hit the above issue?

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/208

[giacomok]

I would echo the suggestion by @wout

The recent update made Brave very non-friendly to people who speak several languages. The pop-up appears every single time even on the pages that one visited before.

Is there any way to disable this pop-up?

EDIT: It appears that there is a way to disable it on the per-language basis in the "Language" menu in the "Settings". I wonder if it makes sense to have a global "disable translations" checkbox in that pop-up?

You right, I have the same problem. It is very annoying to have popup message any single page loading.

[manishmaharjan]

@rebron, Could you throw us a status update on this feature? Did you guys already find any translation providers for releasing this feature? Thank you :)

[rebron]

@manishmaharjan
Per the original issue https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/208#issue-324183494 we are matching Chrome behavior by offering the Google Translate extension to achieve translation parity though we will continue to evaluate translation partners. We did implement this feature sans extension with Microsoft translation services in Nightly/Dev/Beta but weren't able to proceed with them as a service provider.

We can probably close this one out and create a new one when we do move to different translation provider or model for providing the translation service.

We're also updating the dialog so users have a clearer way to don't show the dialog again. That's captured here: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/6340

[git10135405]

Unable to translate
https://community.brave.com/tags/none

[manishmaharjan]

@rebron , Thanks for providing some updates. Since this feature was never released in my opinion closing this issue doesn't sound like a good idea as an almost complete feature has already been implemented based on this issue.

Please also note that using google translation plugin would not be a viable solution as using as core functionality. For instance, in the mobile device it is still not able to provide translation features.

Since it has been more than a year, how likely brave would find translation provider? What is the biggest bottleneck on having Google/Microsoft as a translation provider? Is it a cost or something else is blocking from having them as a translation partner?

[pfuhrmann]

Honestly, watching this issue over the past year, there is a minuscule chance that they will ever find a suitable provider. I commented on the same already back in June.

See my comments above about possible solutions with microtransactions that didn't receive any response from the developers. Brave is great browser and I wish I could use it, but sadly, this is a dealbreaker for me and for many others.

[ultrasound1372]

I tried to use the google translation extension but it isn't seeming to work, trying to translate the page https://ux.getuploader.com/foobar2000/ as an example page in Japanese. Trying to translate uploader.jp, just in case the tld mattered, also didn't work. Says it has access, when I click it it pops up a box with an edit field, a translate button, and a translate the page link. Click the link, dismiss the box, nothing happens.

[w4cky]

Hey guys, what´s the current status on this options?

[srirambv]

@w4cky translation is available from 0.69.x onwards. When you visit a page that is not in English you should be prompted to install the translation extension. This was implemented as part of #5561

@bsclifton we should consider closing this in favour of #5561 ?

[w4cky]

@srirambv Google chrome does it more conveniently because it immediately translates the page in its window.

[manishmaharjan]

@rebron , Thanks for providing some updates. Since this feature was never released in my opinion closing this issue doesn't sound like a good idea as an almost complete feature has already been implemented based on this issue.

Please also note that using google translation plugin would not be a viable solution as using as core functionality. For instance, in the mobile device it is still not able to provide translation features.

Since it has been more than a year, how likely brave would find translation provider? What is the biggest bottleneck on having Google/Microsoft as a translation provider? Is it a cost or something else is blocking from having them as a translation partner?

@srirambv , because of some of these core underlying issues, what would be the point of closing this issue when the main work done has been never released.

[rebron]

Closing since original issue as described was completed with https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/5561 and shipped with 69.x. Please file separate issues for feature enhancements (additional or other translation providers), suggestions, or bugs with the current implementation.

[manishmaharjan]

@rebron , that was a complete unprofessional move. You even failed to answer aforementioned question, but instead just decided to close this issue straightly. If brave as a company wants to just close the issue without addressing the core issue first then there might be a lot of question about a trust.

Moreover, awesome work done by @yrliou as part of releasing this feature is also lost.

Closing this issue means that this might never hit to release version now. There might not have any better ways to track this core underlying issues unless Brave wants to admit that this core feature would not be released to end customer as part of the core feature.

If Brave have clear intension of releasing this as a core feature then we would highly suggest that please keep this issue in an open state and have some milestone for releasing. This is a major feature that a lot of people are expecting. Hope Brave would decide the right thing.
Thanks

CC. @bbondy @bsclifton

[bsclifton]

Hi there @manishmaharjan

• I personally believe the overall feature request in this issue has been addressed 👍 which is why this issue is closed
• You are correct - the solution chosen to address this is NOT a directly comparable experience to what is in Chrome, unfortunately
  
  
  
  • We could have done a better job explaining why we chose this route
  
  
  • Chrome translates it in page (which @w4cky mentions is more convenient)
  
  
  • The work @yrliou did is great and I would like to see it used too
  
  
  • Cost is an issue though, which is why we changed course. These translation calls use a token which charges per-translation call (whether we use Google, Microsoft, or another provider)
  
  
  • What @pfuhrmann proposed with micro-transactions (to offset cost) is definitely interesting, but we should capture that overall proposal (ex: being able to chip in on service calls which have a cost using BAT) in it's own issue not related to translations (I can help flag the appropriate folks if you wanted to create an issue and expand on that, @pfuhrmann)
  
  
• We can create a new issue to track the request of a directly comparable translate feature. I'm more than happy to create this. However, it's not on our roadmap as a company (at least, at the moment) to implement, because of cost. So while we can have an issue to track it, it would be open perpetually (until something changes).

[rebron]

@manishmaharjan Sorry about closing the issue without answering your questions, I think @bsclifton replies answered them though. I closed this issue out because the feature request has been addressed and we're not doing any additional work within this issue, we're not discussing designs, implementation details, or creating prs attached to this issue any longer.

As we've done with other features/feature requests/enhancements, we can create specific and actionable issues that we can better address to move the feature along. Again, sorry for the lack of clarity.

[ultrasound1372]

It prompted me to install the extension. I'm fine with that. But I couldn't actually, translate the page. It just stayed in its original language. Is it because I'm using a screen reader?

[marie228]

Hi, there are so many posts on this subject, I'm a little lost.
If the option is available with version 1.0.1 Chromium: 78.0.3904.108 (Official Build) (64-bit), where can I find it and how to activate it?
Thanks! ,-)

[serial02]

Hello Team @brave-browser-releases

There is a prediction when the Brave automatic translator will be working normally. Here in the Linux version it doesn't work as it can be seen in the image below:

https://imgur.com/O95bDXO

[crogonint]

Here's your missing translate service. Upvote this:
https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/341361-yahoo-homepage/suggestions/40044514-bring-back-babelfish