Amphtml: amp-user-notification DISMISS ON SCROLL

[diegodeodati]

There are some way to dismiss user notification (cookie e.g.) on scroll event??

[aghassemi]

There isn't. May I ask what information is presented in the notification in your specific use-case? I personally don't believe scroll is a strong enough signal to dismiss user-notifications, specially since they are important for communicating Cookie policies. Maybe there are certain scenarios where it makes sense.

@spacedino @ericlindley-g

[diegodeodati]

Any update?

[aghassemi]

This feature is not planned, may I ask what information is presented in the notification in your specific use-case?

[diegodeodati]

Yes.
It is forse the cookie but i want ti close It even if the user scroll.

There is some scroll component that produce a dismiss event on notification
scrollbar?

Il 02 ott 2017 7:20 PM, "Ali Ghassemi" [e-mail] ha
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This feature is not planned, may I ask what information is presented in
the notification in your specific use-case?

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[aghassemi]

There isn't and whether this is something we want so support in AMP is debatable. We need to figure out if "scroll" is enough of a user-intent to dismiss a "cookie policy" notification and still adhere to privacy requirements. /cc @rudygalfi

[jridgewell]

I'd say a strong no. We can decline the consent, meaning any PII is declined (no cookies, no analytics, no ads tracking).

[ericlindley-g]

One approach would be to hide the banner on scroll but not imply an acceptance (which means as @jridgewell notes, any PII/cookies/analytics/ads tracking is declined). The site owner would be sacrificing a bit, but it would be a reasonable user experience for a user that doesn't want to accept cookies, but hasn't taken the explicit action to reject them.

I think amp-position-observer could be used to do this. @aghassemi, is that right?

[aghassemi]

yes, possible with amp-position-observer + amp-animation using visibility property.

[ericlindley-g]

Thanks—then I'll close this as possible to do without accepting the notification, and working as intended (since it doesn't support implicit cookie acceptance on scroll).

[diegodeodati]

Could you give an example?

Il 19 ott 2017 1:30 AM, "ericlindley-g" [e-mail] ha
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Closed #11405 https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/11405.

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[aghassemi]

@diegodeodati Please see https://codepen.io/aghassemi/pen/EwrMoP?editors=1000 for a sample

[diegodeodati]

@aghassemi
Thanks but there is no way to click a button on scroll?

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Da: Ali Ghassemi
Inviato: giovedì 19 ottobre 2017 20:00
A: ampproject/amphtml
Cc: diegodeodati; Mention
Oggetto: Re: [ampproject/amphtml] amp-user-notification DISMISS ON SCROLL(#11405)

@diegodeodati Please see https://codepen.io/aghassemi/pen/EwrMoP?editors=1000 for a sample
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[aghassemi]

@diegodeodati definitely not, we can't allow author to decide scroll == click, that breaks user trust.

[diegodeodati]

Yes i know.
I want to create a game and i want to click in scroll.
But anyway if is not possible is ok.

Thanks

Il 19 ott 2017 9:47 PM, "Ali Ghassemi" [e-mail] ha
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@diegodeodati https://github.com/diegodeodati definitely not, we can't
allow author to decide scroll == click, that breaks user trust.

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[guidozichichi]

Hello,

I represent a well-known italian publisher: we are waisting a substantial part of our advertising revenue on Google AMP, because of the lack of cookie policy acceptance on scroll event. We would need it to be implemented as soon as possible, otherwise there is the concrete possibility that we have to reconsider their utility.

Thank you,
Guido

[cramforce]

@guidozichichi Your post is only borderline within the code of conduct of this GitHub project. Please keep it technical

amp-user-notification has cookie policy only as one possible use. We don't have to consider that special usage in this discussion at all. If a publisher thinks that is a good way to use it, then that is great. I personally think dismiss on scroll would be great. As a user that may be a much more enjoyable interaction. Ideally this would be exposed through an action and/or amp-bind instead of a special attribute on the element.

[diegodeodati]

I am agree with @guidozichichi https://github.com/guidozichichi

Il 21 nov 2017 6:22 PM, "Malte Ubl" [e-mail] ha scritto:

@guidozichichi https://github.com/guidozichichi Your post is only
borderline within the code of conduct of this GitHub project. Please keep
it technical

amp-user-notification has cookie policy only as one possible use. We don't
have to consider that special usage in this discussion at all. If a
publisher thinks that is a good way to use it, then that is great. I
personally think dismiss on scroll would be great. As a user that may be a
much more enjoyable interaction. Ideally this would be exposed through an
action and/or amp-bind instead of a special attribute on the element.

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[guidozichichi]

Hi @cramforce , thank you for your reply: we simply need to make cookie acceptance more frequent, as more than half of users is not clicking on the "ok" button even if, we are sure, they wouldn't mind to. The problem is that they don't see the banner and don't click it. They don't know that the economic sustainability of putting an article on Google AMP depends on their click and on the visualisation of the ads. A scroll down acceptance is a system that it widely accepted by users and it would help both the publisher and the reader. I don't see how a system that doesn't generate revenue can be sustainable, even in the short run.

@cramforce I don't get what solutions you suggest: how could we use amp-user-notification, in order to have a smoother cookie policy acceptance?

[cramforce]

I'm not sure it is possible today or whether a feature needs to be added. @aghassemi and @ericlindley-g will need to follow up.

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[mcmd]

This is interesting not only for publishers but also for e-commerce, where consent also needs to be collected (for conversion tracking), and where scrolling is also used as consent. See example here.

@aghassemi @ericlindley-g this FR is a little bit old, but still open. Is there anything we can do to help triaging?

[aghassemi]

I am going to triage this to @zhouyx as amp-consent is the right component for collecting user-consent and its UX is to some extend defined by AMP.

[mcmd]

@zhouyx hi! any updated on the triaging? thanks!

[zhouyx]

@choumx Right now consent UI supports these actions. Is it possible to have scroll event trigger an action to hide consent ui?
https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/master/extensions/amp-consent/amp-consent.md#prompt-actions

[aghassemi]

@zhouyx if you make them low-trust actions, that's all we would need. amp-position-observer would be able to call them.

[zhouyx]

Thanks @aghassemi What are low-trust actions? My gut feeling is that the action to toggle user consent decision shouldn't be low trust.

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