Zeronet: [Discussion] Credit system.Anti-spam and detecting bots.

Created on 14 Sep 2018  路  5Comments  路  Source: HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet

There are a lot of spammers&bots on the zeronet.It became a problem now.
And zeronet is still growing,so we should find a solution

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@DaniellMesquita That's not what he said. He said it'll not be introduced because it's hard with an open system, not because it's open. The stress is put on it being hard.

@slrslr As far as I know, the blocking system isn't based on IP's, it's based on ID's. So having thousands of IP addresses provides absolutely no help. What does help, is being able to create thousands of IDs.

I think the POW id creation system would help this, as it takes time to create an ID with that system.

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It's really hard to create a fair credit system in an anonymous/open system.

The shared blocklist feature was added to solve this problem.

shared blocklist feature

Here the feature was introduced: http://127.0.0.1:43110/Blog.ZeroNetwork.bit/?Post:131
Here ZeroTalk topic about it: http://127.0.0.1:43110/Talk.ZeroNetwork.bit/?Topic:1530020784_1AHEQxyRG9s6owyJHShB4U4rg9GL5FMX5K

Practical use: The spammed site admins can clone sample blocklist and add spammers to their newly created blocklist & then share blocklist with their site users so they can subscribe it & no longer see (on whole Zeronet) the content posted by the blacklisted users.

Downsides: Though this feature in its current state is no/or very low efficient against automated bots i think (automated botnet vs human person who manually manage blocklist) and also blocklist user have to trust the blocklist admin/s so they will not include innocent users or users who post spam on certain site, but on other zeronet sites they post useful content.

I think that the botnets can utilize high thousands of IPs and if ZN evolve, one day we can find ZeroNet over-spammed rendering it hardly usable, so anti-bot system feature request ( #1310 ) should not be closed in my opinion.

Credit system issue is also should not be closed.This is useful for search engine.I'd like it automated to accept/ignore report.

Downsides: Though this feature in its current state is no/or very low efficient against automated bots i think (automated botnet vs human person who manually manage blocklist) and also blocklist user have to trust the blocklist admin/s so they will not include innocent users or users who post spam on certain site, but on other zeronet sites they post useful content.

This downside explains all.
Say that a credit system will not introduced because ZeroNet is open, it is hypocrisy.

@DaniellMesquita That's not what he said. He said it'll not be introduced because it's hard with an open system, not because it's open. The stress is put on it being hard.

@slrslr As far as I know, the blocking system isn't based on IP's, it's based on ID's. So having thousands of IP addresses provides absolutely no help. What does help, is being able to create thousands of IDs.

I think the POW id creation system would help this, as it takes time to create an ID with that system.

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