Zeronet: Create site manual "Windows 10"

[elliekeli]

Hi,

I found this tutorial but it does not work for me. (Manual way: Using the command line1. Create site structure): http://zeronet.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using_zeronet/create_new_site/

If I'm not wrong, there's a bug in the "/"
"../Python/python.exe" zeronet.py siteCreate

(That's right)
"..\Python\python.exe" zeronet.py siteCreate

I installed "python-2.7.14.msi"

and since I did not find the "ZeroBundle/ZeroNet" folder does not exist... (Windows build)

I followed this:
cd C:\Users\NAME\Desktop\ZeroNet-win-dist\core
"C:\Python27\python.exe" zeronet.py siteCreate

I will get Error:
https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2018/01/14/k7e5.png

Thx help me.

[imachug]

That's incorrect use of ZeroNet-win-dist. Instead of:

cd C:\Users\NAME\Desktop\ZeroNet-win-dist\core
"C:\Python27\python.exe" zeronet.py siteCreate

...use:

cd C:\Users\NAME\Desktop\ZeroNet-win-dist
zeronet.exe siteCreate

Also, I don't recommend you to use siteCreate. Instead, use ZeroHello.

[imachug]

If I'm not wrong, there's a bug in the "/"
"../Python/python.exe" zeronet.py siteCreate

(That's right)
"..\Python\python.exe" zeronet.py siteCreate

In Windows both / and \ are correct.

[HelloZeroNet]

actually it's lib/zeronet.cmd siteCreate as the zeronet.exe is gui-only application and you won't see any output to command line from it.

But you can also use the web interface to create new site. ⋮ > Create new, empty site on ZeroHello

[elliekeli]

Thx, it works.

PS:
I would like to ask how exactly "Identity address" works...
https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2018/01/14/mOoJ.png
I did not find anything in the documentation to help me understand how it works.

[imachug]

@HelloZeroNet

actually it's lib/zeronet.cmd siteCreate as the zeronet.exe is gui-only application and you won't see any output to command line from it.

Well, you are not quite right. I use hooks in Git Center, and for signing call either zeronet.py siteSign or core/zeronet.py siteSign or zeronet.exe siteSign. All work, including zeronet.exe.

@elliekeli

I would like to ask how exactly "Identity address" works...

In clearnet you have a login, a password and sometimes a nick. In ZeroNet, your nick would be elliekeli, your login would be 1AoDYdMxwA55FTp2FNBrMaMv9r1ZzC6jSu, and password would be a private key (which is stored in core/data/users.json). ZeroNet shows that login in sidebar.

ZeroNet is decentralized, so there can be options when nickname isn't unique (e.g. KaffieID). But login is auto-generated and guaranteed to be unique. Password is also auto-generated, so there is no chance you would be hacked (if someone doesn't steal your users.json, of course).

That identity address was given to you when you registered on ZeroID.

Hope I could answer your question.

[elliekeli]

Thank you very much for your answer!

if I understand it correctly "Identity address" is the unique account (for each zeronet page separately) everyone PC has "random generated" on the same page?

I still want to ask what it is "(limit used: 0.00kB / 0.00kB)" thx.

Also excuse my bad English...

[HelloZeroNet]

All work, including zeronet.exe.

Yes, it does work, but using the zeronet.exe you won't see any response/output/message in the command line.

[imachug]

@HelloZeroNet Okay, that makes sense. I did that >/dev/null stuff to supress output, so I didn't notice.

@elliekeli

if I understand it correctly "Identity address" is the unique account (for each zeronet page separately) everyone PC has "random generated" on the same page?

When you log in some site, you see options like Unique to this site and zeroid.bit. If Unique to this site is chosen then identity address is really unique. When zeroid.bit is chosen, then that identity address would be in fact your ZeroID login.

I still want to ask what it is "(limit used: 0.00kB / 0.00kB)" thx.

Site owners can set limits for users, so users could't use a lot of space. On ZeroTalk, that limit is 50KB. If you open that sidebar on ZeroTalk, you'll see ?KB/50KB which means you have (50 - ?) KB storage left for your posts.

Of course 0KB/0KB doesn't make sense, that means that you didn't log in yet.

[JazzMaster]

first of all- should never be a .exe.

Its a python file, not a binary. where did you DL this from? sounds malware-ish.

Its a shell scrypt in unix, batch file in sin. Use of .run is inconsistent with python in main scrypt. indicates use of a binary - which is wrong. Zero is and always will be implemented in python- and you will need the interpreter called at some point. You shouldnt be launching bins and the only use case I can see is a self-extracting python version.

python Zeronet.sh or python zeronet.py

unices have the advantage of using hashbomb commands to internally invoke the interpreter when accessing the file in execution.

NO, the / and \ are different. You must be in a advanced shell of some sort, not the command console. DOS takes one style and unix takes the other.

some of these comments have nothing to do with the original post. Im getting confused. Please stay on topic.

[imachug]

@JazzMaster YOU are wrong. Look at zeronet-win-dist.

[krixano]

@JazzMaster You just said some incorrect stuff, which is very annoying.

Firstly, zeronet-win-dist does use an executable. Why can this be? Simple. You can compile python, you can run a python script from an executable, etc. etc. How do you think compiled programs are able to use plugins written in python? Because you can call python from an executable. I don't know exactly what zeronet.exe is doing, however I do know it is probably calling python to run zeronet's python scripts.

Next, Unix uses /, and Windows typically uses \. However, Windows does also support / (although, I'm not sure if unix supports \ - never tried it). Type cd /Users in the command prompt and you can clearly see that Windows supports /. You can of course also do this same command with \. Although, I will say that this may be due to the fact that programs automatically correct it to \ whenever you use /, including cmd.exe. However, that doesn't matter much because pretty much everything supports it (now at least).

Finally, they were staying on topic. And if they weren't, it doesn't matter because both the person who created the issue and the person who owns this repository dictate what's acceptable to be talked about in this issue and what's not. Notice that doesn't include you.

[martinvahi]

If revision 3703 that is published at the ZeroNet GitHub trunk on 2018_11_08 (commit comment: "Rev3703") is OK for You and You are willing to out-comment 3 lines as shown at the screen video with Estonian comments

https://technology.softf1.com/software_by_third_parties/ZeroNet/2019_11_24_initially_failing_and_Ctrl-c-killed_unprepared_Estonian_demo_t1_how_to_get_the_2018_11_08_ZeroNet_Rev3703_mmmv_repackaging_t1_to_run_on_Windows10_Linux_layer.webm

then You may use my repackaged version

https://technology.softf1.com/software_by_third_parties/ZeroNet/

on Windows10 with the "Windows Subsystem for Linux",

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/faq

Debian distribution. The ZeroNet code at my package is unmodified, You may just clone the original source from the ZeroNet GitHub repository, revert to the given version and recursively diff. What I did was just write 3 Bash scripts, the ones at the root folder and, well, if You read the 3 Bash scripts, You'll see it all. With some hick-ups it does work on Windows10, as shown at the screen video.