ZeroNet killer application: browser addon to comment any newspaper / website

[adrelanos]

Many news papers have closed their comment sections for various reasons.

• lack of manpower for moderation
• legal risk
• unwillingness to accept opposing views
• trolling / spam / etc.

ZeroNet could help out with this. With a standalone browser addon (for major browsers). Such an add-on could inject extra html at the end of any website. If there is no comment section (lets say in some news article) or if the comment section is censored, the addon could append an artificial comment section, one that cannot be censored.

[firestalk]

There are some addons http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/top-web-annotation-and-markup-tools/
without need of zeronet

[Adrianzo]

Also, those newspapers can use disqus, facebook, or whatever.

The philosophy behind a descentralized web is against this whole idea of interfacing it with the current corporate web, IMHO.

[adrelanos]

firestalk:

There are some addons http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/top-web-annotation-and-markup-tools/
without need of zeronet

Not decentralized. Not censorship resistant.

[adrelanos]

Adrián E. Salatino:

Also, those newspapers can use disqus, facebook, or whatever.

They sure can, but they do not want. I suggested to add comments for
newspapers that deliberately disabled comments.

[Adrianzo]

Ok, now I understood what drives your idea. Maybe you could rewrite the first post explaining it clearly.

Having an interface that crosstalks clearnet and zeronet could be the take off in fighting censorship. And a browser add-on might just be that interface. But why do I feel that this could be the take off? It's just in terms of user-friendliness. And I believe zeronet its quite friendly, specially for windows _lusers_ since they have all bundled up. So, this take-off we are talking might not rely only on user-friendliness (since its already provided)... This is kind of 'debatable'.

Don't get me wrong, I believe your idea is a good one. I'm just saying that zeronet at its current state already fights censorship in an user-friendly manner. And I believe the main developer it's working in providing new features to it, instead of making 'candy' to attract more users. I hope you understand my point, I'm having some difficulty in pointing it out.

Let me put an example, we could achieve something similar to your idea with some script that pulls RSS feeds from newspapers and creates threads in a zerotalk clone zite. In fact, merger sites and the hubs of zero-me will provide this, for sure. This is the kind of developing that zeronet focuses on.

Of course, I'm just a regular user giving an opinion and if it were up to me, of course the browser addon should be implemented just as one more tool. It's just that it doesn't feel like a priority (to me).

[adrelanos]

Adrián E. Salatino:

Ok, now I understood what drives your idea. Maybe you could rewrite
the first post explaining it clearly.

Difficult. I would not know how.

Having an interface that crosstalks clearnet and zeronet could be the
take off in fighting censorship. And a browser add-on might just be
that interface. But why do I feel that this could be the take off?
It's just in terms of user-friendliness. And I believe zeronet its
quite friendly, specially for windows users since they have all
bundled up. So, this take-off we are talking might not rely only on
user-friendliness (since its already provided)... This is kind of
'debatable'.

Because the place for the artificially injected comments section needs
to be right at that place under an article on the internet. By moving it
to some other place or gui, the number of users shrinks drastically.
It's just in terms of user-friendliness indeed.

Don't get me wrong, I believe your idea is a good one. I'm just
saying that zeronet at its current state already fights censorship in
an user-friendly manner. And I believe the main developer it's
working in providing new features to it, instead of making 'candy' to
attract more users. I hope you understand my point, I'm having some
difficulty in pointing it out.

Sure, your point is perfectly valid.

Let me put an example, we could achieve something similar to your
idea with some script that pulls RSS feeds from newspapers and
creates threads in a zerotalk clone zite. In fact, merger sites and
the hubs of zerome will provide this, for sure. This is the kind of
developing that zeronet focuses on.

Why not, sure useful to have, but not as user friendly and attractive as
I had in mind.

[ghost]

In anycase, as this repo is for zeronet core. it can't include a browser plugins. You will need to start some kind of initiative to make it append.

[adrelanos]

https://dissenter.com allows to comment on any URL, but it is a centralized service. It got some traction.

Open Source, maybe could be ported to ZeroNet.
https://github.com/gab-ai-inc/gab-dissenter-extension