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This should be a basic feature for an "out of the box" experience.
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Yes please! The lack of svn support is the only thing keeping me from using VSCode at the moment.
@egamma Is this something that the maintainers would accept pull requests for?
@thoradam in general yes we love PRs:smile:, the challenge here is that VS Code does not have an API to plugin different SCM systems. As first first step such a PR should propose such an SCM provider API. When it comes to API I suggest early collaboration with the maintainers, e.g, start with a proposal. The proposal also needs to support the existing git support.
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I would just like to point out https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/2824 which is crucial for SVN (and other SCM systems) extension support.
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Hi all, prefer :+1: reactions on the original issue comment as that helps us with prioritization.
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Make sure to vote for the top comment. +1 won't affect the priority of this issue.
@joaomoreno commented 3 days ago:
This will likely not happen in the near future.
Also, with the closing of https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/2824 this doesn't seem like it's in the pipeline at the moment...
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I will lock this conversation. Please upvote by adding a 👍 reaction to the first post.
Unlocked, since apparently reactions are disabled on a locked conversation. 😨
@joaomoreno If you don't unlocked I would like to downvote you
Because, you know, press like button not notice anyone. And this feature was requested like forever. This feature is issue 206 while now we have 12000 issue
@Thaina
Check out our CONTRIBUTING.md document. In it you'll find:
If you find your issue already exists, make relevant comments and add your reaction. Use a reaction in place of a "+1" comment.
👍 - upvote
👎 - downvote
Also, if you read out Issue Tracking wiki page, it states the following:
The PM team monitors feature requests and participate in discussions
This includes reactions.
Here's all our feature requests sorted by thumbs up. This one is currently in 7th place.
@joaomoreno My point is
And well, this issue has 66 upvote. And rank 7th in issue board if sort by upvote. It still never progress so I think +1 give us more reaction from you guy
FYI There are not more than 10 issues closed with more upvote than this issue. So, yeah, as I said, upvote is not cause much reaction from you people
I would have a more positive attitude.
As we don't pay nothing we cannot expect that some issue would be solved.
What I would suggest is that the vscode team will architect the solution and will then be open for pull requests. I am sure that at least a part of the programmers which upvoted the issue will contribute here something.
Please upvote by adding a 👍 reaction to the first post.
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@mattez Have you even think a little that it's not like we don't use git
We all here at github sure using git if we have choices. But we don't always have choices. Old codebase or old people in any company may still use SVN and we need to access it without breaking them. But we still want to use vscode
More importantly, to introduce vscode to those old people, without the need to have them drop SVN first, we could let them drop old things one by one instead of make them uncomfortable to have them lose too many things in one times
Even though @mattez removed his abusive post, I just want to side with @Thaina.
Though, SVN is not legacy to GIT in the same sense that CVS is legacy to SVN. There is a big difference between SVN and GIT that fits different purposes. I.e that SVN is centralalized and GIT is decentralized.
For development with low bandwidth, very large repositories, backup topology, et.c, GIT is not always the number one choice. We run SVN at my company and when we contemplated to move to GIT, any advantages didn't motivate the work it would involve to migrate all the data, learn new tools and make sure everybody would use it as intended.
I'm actually going to remove my +1 on this feature. While it would be nice to have log and blame display within vscode, I find the that tortoise svn extensions provide adequate convenience to get to that information for the files I'm currently editing.
I use osx in my office and nothing better than tortoise as alternative
Try Cornerstone as an alternative. Not free but great app for OS X.
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@jeffgabhart Which of the three extensions do you prefer?
Update: After testing, my preference is now tortoise-svn.
@csholmq I've only tried this one so far. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=cdsama.tortoise-svn-for-vscode
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I'd like to emphasize that SVN support (and possibly a generic VCS API) would be highly appreciated.
As other have mentioned while Git is currently the most popular, there are many projects out there, which use SVN and cannot switch to another VCS just because of VSCode.
The extension tortoise-svn is a nice workaround, if you work under Windows. Unfortunately it doesn't work on Linux or OSX and it's just a (very nice) workaround, because it uses the UI of TortoiseSVN.
For one project I use currently git-svn, but this is very error prone and I don't like the rebasing. For my colleagues without Git experience, this is not a working solution.
Again, please provide a SVN extension - or better a generic VCS API.
What is problem with rebase in git-svn?
I too use svn and want to try git-svn.
It's OK, but I had several occurrances, where unversioned files have been added without my intention. I suspect it was the wrong order of git svn dcommit
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You can only do a git svn rebase
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In addition we have a hook in our SVN repos, that you have to pass the issue key in your commit comment. If I had a typo in the comment I have to reset the git commit and then do it all over again.
For me the general advantages of VSCode are still more important than a more convenient VCS workflow, but for most of my colleagues these VCS workarounds are show-stopppers to use VSCode at all.
Thanks for description. I will with care using it.
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Added a :+1: not for SVN specifically, but for a pluggable SCM option.
One of the best aspects of VS Code is the integrated debugger with one interface regardless of language or environment. Whether I'm working on Rust, a web frontend, Go, C++, etc, I can still go in and use the same UI. There's no need to learn the intricacies of a new debugger or remember CLI switches.
Despite using git almost exclusively, I would love to try perforce or hg out on a smaller project to see how they feel. If they used the same UI as git inside the editor, that's one less barrier to entry.
On top of that there are rumors that my otherwise non-SCM using colleagues (despite trying to get them to use git for the last two years) may be adopting TFS. If that happens then there may be pressure to switch the repositories that I'm responsible for over to TFS as well in order to not be the odd one out. If that happens, I'd really love to not have to learn a new set of tools and just use the builtin editor support instead.
So despite using git across 100% of all my active and inactive repositories, I still would like to see git support be just one (builtin) plugin out of a range of plugins.
Generic SCM API is in works in this February milestone. Extensions based on that supporting TFVS, SVN, Mercurial etc will follow I guess.
Indeed.
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Hello,
We are listening :) and have now added an API for VSCode to enable pluggable SCM Providers. This is currently in the 'preview' state and only in the 'insiders' build. Our plan is to move this into 'stable' in our next release (early April 17).
This lays the foundation for SCM Extensions to be distributed through the marketplace. These extensions will have access to all of the features our Git support leverages (this itself is now only using the public API).
Our ASK If you are interested in helping create an SCM provider, we want to help you and have created a new repo with all of the required details including - timelines, instructions, sample implementations, ... https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-SCMBuilders
Head on over there if you want to help to get going or to monitor progress - with any luck in the coming months we should have a set of high quality SCM providers for VS Code.
Sean
VS Code Team Member
Yes, wanna have SVN as easy as GIT, or even easier.
It would be great if that support does not need the SVN
tool as I use smartSVN? :-S
Plugable SCM support in included in 1.11 🎉
http://code.visualstudio.com/docs/extensionAPI/api-scm
Now we just need some help to get great SVN support added to VS Code. We have a few other providers close to being done but are not aware of an SVN one yet.
Sean - VS Code team member
Anybody have news on an SVN provider? Is there one in progress?
I'm not aware of any. While I lack enough knowledge of VSCode extension development, I would be happy to contribute with testing, documenting, etc.
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Any news ? It would be a huge improvement : full svn integration like in IntelliJ or Subclipse (repo browser, history, file comparison, merge wizards, icons and revision dates/numbers in the explorer, ...)
A lot of companies still use SVN...
I think it might raise interest if we start a Petition Issue.
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What's a petition issue? You could always vote on the OP if that's what you mean.
Btw, you really shouldn't include text from the earlier post. It really clutters down the thread.
@rwatts3: My understanding is that Microsoft use the number of :+1:s on the initial post to sort by priority. Add a :+1: to show your support for this issue, rather than creating another that will split community pressure in half.
@Reificator yes you are correct. That's what I meant by a petition post. I'm not to familiar with Microsoft's particular workflow, I've worked with a lot of open source projects that prefer Petitions to be in a separate issue with some indicator that it is a Petition , to keep it separate from true bugs/issues. But I see that Microsoft uses tagging very well so that may not be an issue here.
@csholmq A petition issue is exactly what @Reificator mentioned, the ability to count how many likes a particular issue is raising, can be a good place to raise the attention to Microsoft devs that the request is a highly requested item for the community. Sometimes it helps to bump the item to a higher priority level. Especially with ending the month of May and entering the month of June, if this were a highly requested item , it's possible they would add it to the June iteration plan.
As for :
Btw, you really shouldn't include text from the earlier post. It really clutters down the thread.
I responded via email, you can see by the indicator next to the post. It wasn't intentional to create extra clutter on the thread. As you can see i've too been watching this issue for quite some time, and I prefer the details of the request to be visible vs. clutter.
P.s. at the time of this writing this issue is ranked 9th based on top reactions.
https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+sort%3Areactions-%2B1-desc
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This editor looks great and I'd use it except there is no SVN support at the moment. We use SVN in work.
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The IDE is very great, except no built-in SVN support
In my opinion, rather than waiting for someone to make ans SVN scm provider extension, vscode team can do it, as they have been doing with some other extensions. It will be a great help for many people.
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provide a svn (client) dotnet core xplat solution by calling the dll's available for all platforms (like sqlite dlls)
provide a Json-RPC Server application (StdIn/StdOut as Channels) using 1.
VS-Code Plugin (Typescript) that uses the Json-Rpc Server (default technology in vs-code used im nultiple plugins)
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Please @seanmcbreen ;)
Dear MS Dev team, did you really hear what users want?
@netroby Yes, they do(the more folders in a workspace thing was highly requested for example). In fact, it's way easier for them to see what the community wants, because this can be filtered using GitHub.
If you really need it, why aren't you provide a pr(those are highly appreciated), instead of complaining about other persons, which can decrease their motivation to maintain this project? I don't get your point, I'm sorry.
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@jens1o the point is the date of first comment on this thread.
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@fascox: In the time since the thread was created they have rewritten the underlying system to be pluggable while not removing functionality or impacting stability of the existing git workflow. All the while shipping other features and bugfixes on a regular schedule. That is a lot of progress in my eyes.
They made it pluggable so that anyone can add any VCS they want. People have added their own VCS plugins. There simply hasn't been a pull request for SVN yet.
It's not useful to throw blame around, and doubly so when there's so much tangible progress towards getting the thing you're after. It demotivates people who can do what you need in the first place.
@reificator ...yes sure i'm with you for all the progress and all your blah blah blah mode but still missing a key feature for a lot of people. This is Microsoft or What? i do not understand all the effort to implement the minimap (for example) while SVN is still in use in many business projects
@fascox I'm the one who also wait for this feature since April 2016
But now the vscode side was already doing all the job to let ANYONE could write a plugin for SVN and put it in their store. What left is anyone enthusiastic enough to do the dirty job writing that plugin
vscode people not need to responsible for this feature anymore. This is responsible for plugin writer which could be anyone to develop this feature if it really that important
In other word they was liberate this task to us. They provide so many thing for us to plug into. So they could work on other task that really relate to being the editor
Sorry but i disagree. SVN is so popular that it deserves to be recognized as a core plugin like the GIT one.
Is there any editor/IDE having built-in support for SVN?
@gulshan maybe all developers IDE/editors for all imaginable platforms and SO, but not VSCode ...for now
@fascox: It doesn't matter how it gets recognized if it doesn't exist.
VS Code accepts pull requests, and the infrastructure is there to write a plugin that adds a VCS provider. Write one, make a pull request, and if it's not accepted then publish an extension instead.
You're talking about a free, open source project not implementing your pet feature, after they've done the groundwork to make it pluggable in the first place. Stop complaining and do it yourself if you need it that badly.
You can look at how git and perforce and probably half a dozen others have been implemented thus far if you're not sure where to start. Afterward you could look at plugins that integrate it into other editors like vim. That should be enough to get you most of the way there, and if it's not, you can link your repository with what you do have done in this issue, and others who are interested can come and contribute. But someone has to take the first step.
@reificator i use git and it's ok for me. Is not my problem if you consider SVN plugin implementation a pet feature, so i will stop here. But... one last thing, I'm curious to know from you what are the motivations and choices made to have the integrated GiT plugin as a standard installation.
thank you.
@fascox I apologize to both you and Microsoft if I gave the impression that I'm a member of the VS Code team. I am most assuredly not.
I don't know the motivation behind making git a builtin. Git has an insanely high marketshare, so that could be the reason.
@fascox I don't think anybody see SVN as a pet project. I think there are only 3 SCM we need. But when it's time we could select only one by the timescale and maintenance I think we all agree that git is the must be choice. At least we all here on github
If the vscode team take times to do SVN plugin, HG people would come ask the same way as you. So it is in the middle that was a wise decision to just take time create pluggable system and let us do it ourselves
@thaina my point is that Microsoft shouldn jump in and start development of SVN plugin ( they have all the know-how come from VIsual Studio and progress more rapidly of anyone else here). Still talking about that After two years say it all. And sorry popularity of HG is not th same of SVN and also mean nothing.
I just wanted to add input here.
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at the company I work for. Frankly I prefer git, and use git in all other projects.
Having said that I spend majority of my day at the company, so I as well as others still use svn
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About 3 months ago I started an empty project on github, when I first heard about the SCM provider initiative. I have not pushed anything or worked on that project as I wanted to see more examples, and documentation on the best approach.
Having said all of that I will try to find as much time as possible to bring that project along.
My plan of action is to replicate the git
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I have opened an issue on that project to gather feedback and advice from you all to get the ball rolling.
I strongly strongly encourage anyone to submit PRs to that repo, and contribute if you have the time.
As a community We Can Bring SVN to VSCODE .
Let's do it!
https://github.com/rwatts3/vscode-svn
https://github.com/rwatts3/vscode-svn/issues/1
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As all of my clients work with both SVN and Git this would be a great feature for me and my colleagues!
Until this is implemented, git-svn could be an interesting stopgap: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-svn
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Maybe because a lot of people want Microsoft do the job. +1
@johnbillion Are you from Microsoft VS Code team ?
@chiragswadia Nope, but I did read the comments above from VS Code team members. For example: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/206#issuecomment-288525035
@johnbillion While I agree with you that nobody can expect from the VS Code team to implement SVN, I think this feature request is still a good indicator how much this feature would be appreciated. This feature request is currently the 8th most popular out of over 2000.
At least this highly popular issue lead to the SCM provider API. Unfurtunately nobody has started something meaningful for SVN (I would be willing to contribute, but lack TypeScript experience to own such an extension).
The Microsoft folks added also the mentioned repo for information regarding SCM provider API. Unfortunately this repo hasn't been updated in any way since the initial commit 6 months ago and the last time I checked much information was already outdated.
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Svn is not easy, i had always problem with it previously, many times eclipse didn't support it properly.
I'm an independent developer, very busy with my own stuff, but keen to create my first VS code plugin soon. I have a very deep knowledge in typescript.
I think where developer accepts on market place, the most useful plugins needs to be voted and merged to the product, as at the moment there are tones of 0.0.1 versions plugin, which i think a pretty useless. It should be a little bit controlled. In node development most of the development time wasted because of weighing up 3rd party modules. To be honest, i decided to avoid major jobs, and do small jobs by creating own modules. It shouldn't be the case in VS code. Luckily the quality of vs code mirrors that a big company is behind it.
Anyway the reason why i deleted eclipse after years of usage and jumped to VS code and netbeans because of the tons of unstable plugins. Although in JavaScript is easier to develop, this scenario should be avoided.
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There now exists an extension made by @johnstoncode. You can find it in the market place under SCM Providers or via the SCM tab inside of code if you select the menu and Install Additional SCM Providers
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Currently you can see status of files, view source, add files and commit (all) changes.
https://github.com/JohnstonCode/svn-scm
He gladly accepts PRs. So let's get working!
Ping @rwatts3 @s-martin @gruberr @cwrau @magic-k
Can this be closed? There is now an svn extension, or you can use git-svn (which I highly recommend in general, especially to anyone who isn't better at using svn than git already).
@rjmunro Great suggestion on git-svn, I had no idea this existed until this moment.
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Agreed. The https://github.com/JohnstonCode/svn-scm extension is the way forward. It has already some great reviews and it is already multi-root folder enabled. I'm closing the issue.
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+1 for svn support. But I would like also to be able to commit/update