Vgstation13: We have have buffed radiation, no geiger counters.

[DorfGuy1]

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so we dont have any geiger counter items, this is not a good thing, cause now radiation will fuck you up

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[PJB3005]

Look as much as I want Geiger counters, they'll be a complete bitch to do due to how radiation works. You basically will have to rewrite it all (except for mobs) and hope you don't get a performance disasters (cough bay)

[Rattlederp]

doesn't tg have geiger counters?

[Shadowmech88]

We have two different systems for radiation, right? One based on distance and another based on whether you can see the thing giving off the radiation?

[PJB3005]

There's no systems for radiation. Period.

Everything that applies rads just loops over mobs in view (or range in some bizarre cases) and does an apply effect for radiation. Nothing more.

Singulo and SM are smart enough to also loop over all rad collectors and if they're without 15 tiles power them.

Oh yes by the way rad collectors working is binary based on distance, they either get perfect energy or they get nothing. Beautiful.

[ghost]

Okay, the current system for applying radiation means we can't piggyback off anything to get a reading of 'Oh fuck you're getting irradiated'

But, there is a halogen counter so you can see how much radiation a person has. it's an engineering PDA cartridge.

[Shadowmech88]

For the range-based irradiation, at least, we could make it loop through a slightly larger range in which to trigger geiger counters, but not actually irradiate mobs.

[ghost]

nonono, best way would be that if a mob is irradiated, or at least if an irradiation is attempted, the irradiation check checks to see if the mob has anything on it that could be used as a geiger counter, and tell it the information

[Exxion]

The problem is that doing that requires recursively checking the contents of everything in the mob.
Or checking the holders of all Geiger counters, which is... probably actually less bad

[Shadowmech88]

Yeah but then the geiger counter will only be capable of telling you that radiation is currently fucking your shit up.

I'd like geiger counters to be warning systems capable of helping you avoid actual radiation exposure by warning you when you get close.

[carshalash]

You're one sick fuck.

[ghost]

???

[PJB3005]

@Exxion virtual hearers for rads.

[ghost]

@Shadowmech88 So you're saying you want the geiger counter to detect radiation before you're in a radioactive area?

[Shadowmech88]

Yes.

[SonixApache]

https://github.com/Baystation12/Baystation12/blob/fc7fe166dad5a829e499b922d946718e2e90c824/code/game/objects/items/devices/geiger.dm

i want geiger counters

[FudgePucker]

There are only a few radiation emitters most of them in engineering.

If you are that worried about radiation remove the genetic power that makes you emit it. Fuck genetic powers, fuck this one in particular. Giving WMDs to shitters. This is the happiest mask only worse. Fucking ruin everything by just standing there, plausible denyability in admin helps.

[ghost]

Fudge is there something you want to talk about?

[FudgePucker]

I have never had a good encounter with a genetisist.
Abusing telekinesis xray and invisibility to be an immortal killing machine.
Fake injector to monkey me, didn't finish me off on the meat spike, blew the cover of cult round start without even using a charge of his starting talisman.
Invisibility xray remote interaction to blow up both of the chemical dispensers, one of them in my face, non antag, doesn't leave finger prints, ONLY GOT A DAY BAN FOR THAT FUCKING BULLSHIT.
And finally people abusing radiation to stand next to you and kill you by liver failure "hahaha what's wrong? What do you mean stay away?" Main use of the power is to be a giant shit.

Also fuck xray vision, most broken shit in the game, thermals were removed from meta's detective office for a reason.
Remove radiating and xray from genetics.

[PJB3005]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt

[Shadowmech88]

thing killed me pls nerf