Vgstation13: Plasmamen don't cool down

[D3athrow-Issues]

(WEB REPORT BY: zealotron REMOTE: 172.93.109.202:7777)

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General description of the issue
They don't naturally cool down anymore, meaning if they catch on fire once and don't put it out quick enough, they'll burn to death regardless of their suit being on and the fire being out.

What you expected to happen
to, you know, go down in temperature

What actually happened
it doesn't go down

Steps to reproduce if possible
be plasmaman
set yourself on fire
watch as you never cool down

[gbasood]

I mean it's from sawbones who generally knows his shit but that's weird
I don't remember anything touching this code for awhile

[TheFriggenSawbones]

It's been happening for awhile.

I'll take my suit off for a second and remain in like orange/yellow heat for the rest of the round.

It also seems like showers aren't effective at cooling you down, it goes about one degree every 2 or 3 seconds. I remember it being a lot faster. Like, I'd die from Hypothermia pretty quickly if I got in a cold shower.

[Blithering]

Heating and cooling happen bizarrely slowly in general, you can run through a hot room, not feel anything and then begin uncontrollably combusting while in a room temperature area.

[ghost]

It's sweating. Plasmamen have no sweat glands so can't control their internal temperature.

Just give them leporazine or toss them in the mancrowave.

[despotate]

This makes it cancer to search plasmemes in the brig for contraband gloves / eyewear because if you take too long to do so they'll die irreversibly.

[SonixApache]

the obvious solution is to remove plasmemes

[TheFriggenSawbones]

WEIRD NEW MYSTERIOUS BUGS

[jknpj]

Can confirme, giving plasmaman the HAS_SWEAT_GLANDS anatomy flag solves this because thanks celt the only way natural thermo-regulation can happen is if you have sweat glands.

So we either give plasmaman some kind of coolant or give them sweat glands to fix this or we label it as a FEEEEEAAATTUUUURREEEEEEEEEEEE and leave them unable to bandaid themselves without dying.

[SonixApache]

Consume frost peppers / frost oil?

[PJB3005]

only way to thermo regulate is with sweat glands.

That's not how temperature works. There's still passive heat loss from conducting to the environment...

CELT.

[Exxion]

I'd like hypothermia if it weren't just so poorly-coded and poorly-thought-out

[SonixApache]

The suits probably have perfect heat retention.

[Exxion]

I'm about 90% sure that's not even a thing our current heat system takes into account

[gbasood]

Heat retention afaik isn't a thing no
Just heat resistance

[SonixApache]

I'm talking about the heat_conductivity var. It's why you can go into space in a firesuit.
It determines how quickly your body adapts to your environment.

Plasmaman suits are just children of basic space suits, which have heat_conductivity = SPACESUIT_HEAT_CONDUCTIVITY
__DEFINES/setup.dm says
#define SPACESUIT_HEAT_CONDUCTIVITY 0 // until a time where space is no longer cold
Which is why they'll never cool or heat on their own.

[jknpj]

Even if you remove your suit and get under a cold shower your temperature won't go down, i've tried it before crawling to medbay with 89 burn damage thanks to a toy facehugger dropping my helmet.

[SonixApache]

@jknpj isn't that just because plasmemes are hardcoded to burn?

[jknpj]

No, being under a shower prevents you from burning