Urbit: Out of order

[custom-jonathan]

Landscape was being quiet, so I remarked on how silent it was. The message posted with the right time stamp, and then a whole bunch of messages with earlier time stamps scrolled up.

Just like a dot post issue, I think.

[matildepark]

I somewhat think this is because ~dopzod was a little uncommunicative at the time, but unsure. We are still in the throes of Sudden Death.

[custom-jonathan]

Still getting the out of sequence thing. Weird.

[Fang-]

Huh I thought I commented on this already. Here's a quick rundown of out of order causes:

• Timestamps are set by the sender on-compose, so:
• Sender's clock could be ahead/behind
• Sender's message could've taken a while to send
• Sender could've spoofed the timestamp, I guess (^:
• Messages could've _actually_ been delivered out of order, as per #1482

Perhaps the UI should re-order messages based on their timestamps, but then you get into situations where messages can get inserted way back in scrollback and nobody will ever see them. I feel the current behavior is more or less correct.

[vvisigoth]

We did have the "reorder on client" behavior before and I think it led to
people having messages that "disappeared" becuase they were inserted out of
the scroll window.

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On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:57 PM Fang [e-mail] wrote:

Huh I thought I commented on this already. Here's a quick rundown of out
of order causes:

• Timestamps are set by the sender on-compose, so:
• Sender's clock could be ahead/behind
• Sender's message could've taken a while to send
• Sender could've spoofed the timestamp, I guess (^:
• Messages could've actually been delivered out of order, as per
  #1482 https://github.com/urbit/urbit/issues/1482

Perhaps the UI should re-order messages based on their timestamps, but
then you get into situations where messages can get inserted way back in
scrollback and nobody will ever see them. I feel the current behavior is
more or less correct.

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[Fang-]

Closing this as nu-chat hasn't displayed this behavior so far.