This issue exists to track progress on gathering instance spawn association - e.g. "which trash spawns belong to which boss" - data.
As outlined here, this is a very accessible process that anyone can contribute to. Please follow the steps in the linked thread and post your results either in that thread or directly as a comment on this issue.
Data will be merged into the 3.3.5 branch as soon as we have a given instance mapped by three different sources (to avoid introducing hard-to-find issues). A full overview of instance progress can be found below:
WotLK Raids | |||
---|---|---|---|
Ruby Sanctum | 70a48ff โ | ||
Onyxia's Lair | fd9a93b โ | ||
Obsidian Sanctum | 70a48ff โ | ||
The Eye of Eternity | fd9a93b โ | ||
Vault of Archavon | 178b530 โ | ||
Icecrown Citadel | โ | โ | โ |
Ulduar | โ | โ | โ |
Naxxramas | โ | โ | โ |
WotLK Dungeons | |||
The Nexus | 0319c71 โ | ||
Gundrak | 178b530 โ | ||
The Forge of Souls | b4572e7 โ | ||
The Pit of Saron | b4572e7 โ | ||
Utgarde Keep | โ | โ | โ |
Azjol'Nerub | โ | โ | โ |
Ahn'kahet | โ | โ | โ |
Drak'tharon Keep | โ | โ | โ |
Caverns of Time: Culling of Stratholme | not needed | ||
Halls of Stone | โ | โ | โ |
Halls of Lightning | โ | โ | โ |
The Oculus | โ | โ | โ |
Utgarde Pinnacle | โ | โ | โ |
The Halls of Reflection | not needed | ||
BC Raids | |||
Tempest Keep: The Eye | 51e28ae โ | ||
Gruul's Lair | fd9a93b โ | ||
Magtheridon's Lair | fd9a93b โ | ||
Sunwell Plateau | โ | โ | โ |
Black Temple | โ | โ | โ |
Caverns of Time: Mount Hyjal | not needed | ||
Serpentshrine Cavern | โ | โ | โ |
Zul'Aman | โ | โ | โ |
Karazhan | โ | โ | โ |
BC Dungeons | |||
Hellfire Ramparts | 51e28ae โ | ||
Blood Furnace | โ | โ | โ |
The Slave Pens | โ | โ | โ |
The Underbog | โ | โ | โ |
Mana-Tombs | โ | โ | โ |
Auchenai Crypts | โ | โ | โ |
Caverns of Time: Old Hillsbrad | โ | โ | โ |
Sethekk Halls | โ | โ | โ |
Shadow Labyrinth | โ | โ | โ |
The Steamvault | โ | โ | โ |
Shattered Halls | โ | โ | โ |
Tempest Keep: The Arcatraz | โ | โ | โ |
Tempest Keep: The Mechanar | โ | โ | โ |
Tempest Keep: The Botanica | โ | โ | โ |
Caverns of Time: The Black Morass | not needed | ||
Magister's Terrace | โ | โ | โ |
Vanilla Raids | |||
Temple of Ahn'Qiraj | โ | โ | โ |
Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj | โ | โ | โ |
Blackwing Lair | 630e84e8โ | ||
Molten Core | โ | โ | โ |
Zul'Gurub | โ | โ | โ |
Vanilla Dungeons | |||
Blackrock Spire | โ | โ | โ |
Blackrock Depths | โ | โ | โ |
Dire Maul | โ | โ | โ |
Scholomance | โ | โ | โ |
Stratholme | โ | โ | โ |
Zul'Farrak | โ | โ | โ |
Uldaman | โ | โ | โ |
Razorfen Downs | โ | โ | โ |
Sunken Temple | โ | โ | โ |
Blackfathom Deeps | โ | โ | โ |
Razorfen Kraul | โ | โ | โ |
The Stockades | โ | โ | โ |
Scarlet Monastery | โ | โ | โ |
Gnomeregan | โ | โ | โ |
Shadowfang Keep | โ | โ | โ |
Wailing Caverns | โ | โ | โ |
The Deadmines | โ | โ | โ |
Ragefire Chasm | โ | โ | โ |
I will take a look into it once my vacation has started
I would like to help and have set it all up (current TC-3.3.5 + Addon), but have a few questions
Addon: Is there a way to delete Spawn Groups made by accident?
Move the entire group to another group (or to Unassigned). This will delete the group (even if there's nothing in it).
Addon: What is the purpose of the context menu to the right of a group? I guess it's to assign all members of that group to a different group. It seems it can also have the effect of deleting a group and/or messing things up entirely,
Assigns everything in that group to a different group, then deletes the group. If it "messes things up entirely", that's a bug, please tell me about it.
What do the different colors mean?
They're random, leftover from when I shaded the entries' backgrounds - I ended up not doing it because ScrollFrame
has some _really_ weird texture rendering glitches.
Is there a way (command) to reset all data for a given instance and start over from scratch?
While you have the frame open, you can run this to reset current map data:
/run SpawnGroupMapper.savedData = {lookup={},groups={}} ReloadUI()
Isn't it a bit random which NPCs I assign to which group in an instance like Ragefire Chasm? Can you elaborate a bit more on how you want them assigned? Like everything up to first boss assign to first boss, and so on, ...
Instances like RFC are a bit random in that you can't really tell, and we have no way to check on retail (RFC was redesigned). Generally, all trash packs should be assigned to the subsequent boss...unless they have special behavior for some reason.
For RFC, the obvious ones are the Troggs (Trogg boss) and the side path (Satyr boss). Everything else is a judgment call since Felguard boss is on his central platform while Warlock boss shares his trash - I think I assigned anything "behind" Felguard to warlock, everything in front to Felguard. It's a "best guess" thing - later instances are a lot clearer.
I can not even collapse Unassiged anymore.
The command to reset the per instance data did not show any effect.
I've deleted the addon data manually.
Still no joy. Giving up ...
You shouldn't even be able to collapse that entry to begin with. ๐ฎ
I would love to get it to work, but at the moment the Addon is unusable for me. Maybe I'm too stupid or some other Addon interferes. Also, I don't see a way, to just add a currently targeted NPC to a specific group. Teleporting to an NPC from the list is nice, but then I need to figure out where I am. More than once I fell through the ground when moving after teleport ...
Don't get me wrong. I want to help getting the data, but it's very frustrating at the moment.
Although I really want to be able to help, but the addon loaded, but when I /spawngroup
,it shows Type /help to get the command list
(The general content of system yellow characters)
@Treeston i can not post here https://community.trinitycore.org/topic/13650-the-great-instance-spawn-crowdsource-initiative-of-2017/
I try to use addon with a normal account and did not work, logued in with my gm account and work fine.
This is the sql from stormwind stokades, review and tell me if it ok, then i will continue to other instances, no promises, but I think before the new year we can have them all scanned.
@HannibalRoG looking at your sql, your groups are wrong. We're not looking to make a group per type of mob - we want one group per boss. In the Stockades case, that means we want to end up with six groups:
Each of these groups should contain the mobs that will stop respawning when the associated boss is killed.
Basically all the mobs that i have to kill to access the boss must go in the same group with the boss, right?
Now I have a doubt, I understand that certain mobs respawn after a while patrolling the dungeon, if that is true, how would be the respawn of such mobs?
Linked to final boss, typically.
And how do I know which ones in a dungeon should be associated with the final boss?
You can use retail to do it.
Try dont kill any trash, and kill the boss. Go out of instance, wait 15~30 min (soft reset) and go inside dungeon again.
You will see alot of trashs is not there anymore :)
Retail its no longuer a trusted source for 3.3.5 instances most of it change his content in resent expansions, only a few remain intact, if we depend of retail to do it we are fuck, i try to do the best i can, thanks both.
Nope, we still can access all dungeons/instance of wotlk on retail...
Blizzard dont care about change stuffs in old raids...
Only thing that they realy changed is amount of damage/health of bosses
Ragefire Chasm
Shadowfang Keep
Scarlet Monastery
That three for example change all trash and most bosses, the history arround it change to, that it what i remember, i know there is much more, beside; the time, money and internet conection for expend in that job its not available for me now, i can only work with Trinitycore server to do it.
In any case, we have a group of people here very knowledgeable of all the LK content, I think we can do a good job without having access to retail, taking into account that each spawn in trinity comes out from sniffer and its blizzlike ;)
Pro tip:?
It is very probable that the trash that have waypoints (patrol the instance) are linked to the final boss.
Will this be correct?
First two
Ok~I use en_us client and do well.
here's my first work for icc,
(I don't know if my understanding is correct)
Magister's Terrace: Bancal del Magister.zip
Utgarde Keep: Fortaleza de Utgarde.zip
Gundrak.zip
Halls of Lightning.zip
Halls of Stone.zip
This one is from another source Ragefire Chams.zip
Awesome, thanks so far. Just dropping by to let you know that I haven't abandoned this, and your efforts are not in vain ๐
@Treeston thanks, it's good to hear it, when you can, update the table.
WTF i cant upload any file
maybe there is a limit on atachments.
Better use gist @HannibalRoG
Auchenai Crypts By Psyhopath
Blackfathon deeps By Black
Halls of Reflection By Leroux
Hellfire Citadel By Psyhopath
Icecrown Citadel By Leroux
Mana-Tombs By Psyhopath
Naxxramas By Leroux
Pit of Saron By Leroux
Serpentshrine Cavern By Psyhopath
The Stockade By Black
Shadow Labyrinth By Psyhopath
Tempest Keep The Botanica By Psyhopath
The Blood Furnance By Psyhopath
Shattered Halls By Psyhopath
Tempest Keep The Arcatraz By Psyhopath
Vault of Archavon By Leroux
The Forge of Souls By Leroux
The Slave By Psyhopath
The Steamvault By Psyhopath
The Underbog By Psyhopath
Ulduar By Leroux
Please note: Different name in archive=Different source.
Does anyone have a source which proves that trash in dungeons should be associated with bosses in this manner?
For raids I know the "no respawn if boss dead" behavior is correct, but I can't find any proof on retail or online about dungeons.
@Treeston I hope don't end up losing the files, when will they apply?
@Treeston are you still stay with us?
Yes. Most of my focus is on #19930 right now.
Shouldn't we tag this kind of issue with Github's default label's "help wanted'?
The other tag "good first issue" could be useful too. Will that be ok if i create them?
Sorry for not replying before, didn't know quite what to say.
Re-creating the labels is OK.
#159818
= [help wanted
] )#7962ea
or #5319e7
= [good first issue
] )Thanks for replying!
I seriously don't get the point of Help-Wanted and good first issue, labels...... if you have a tracker where you accept fixes and pull requests... it's to get help.
Help-Wanted
is for issues that need unrelated users to actively contribute, I guess?
General issues are there so we can keep track of what's broken and find stuff to work on.
"good first issue" are a good way to help beginners find tasks that they can work on. As a beginner, it's hard to identify what's easy to fix from what is not. Only people who are knowledgeable about the system can do it reliably. This way, contributing to the first time to the project is easier (I remember having that exact problem when I discovered TC).
As for "help wanted", imo it's particularly useful for PRs. Where the amount of work is to too much to handle for one person. In some PRs, it's possible to split the work among several people.
Someone renamed the label "help wanted" to "Help-Wanted" for a consistency reason with the other labels I assume. The issue is when going on these pages: https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/issues or https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/pulls, it is possible to directly filter by the label "help wanted". If the label is renamed, the whole initiative will loose visibility.
OK, so if the label properties gets messed up by renaming it (maybe losing connection with the overall github functionality, IDK), maybe it will be better to delete the misnamed one and recreate it?
No renaming the label back is fine.
EDIT: I may have not been clear: What I meant to say is that when filtering by "help wanted", issues with the label "Help-Wanted" don't show up (and vice versa). The search is case sensitive.
OK, renaming done. Hope it helps. ;-) (pun intended)
I will edit this post when I have more to share.
List in issue updated with contributions so far (thanks!)
Could you please post the tool somewhere in Github (or such, without sign up needed)?
Didn't realize our forum needs you to register to see files.
SpawnGroupMapper.zip
Thanks!
Great! Will jump onboard with this. =) Before starting on the older instances, has anyone a clear idea of where Trinitycore was at with creature trash pools. (Trash mobs in old instances were not static spawns, rather, a chance to spawn different creature id's within a pool. Zul'furrak even on retail still)
https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/issues/20108#issuecomment-347625800
I second that.
Aokromes just tested HM HoL and trash respawned after 2 hours after killing bosses
So no linked respawn for non-raids
1 boss, not every boss / trash
Oh, why not all trash and bosses :D
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Vault of Archavon By Leroux
The Forge of Souls By Leroux
The Slave By Psyhopath
The Steamvault By Psyhopath
The Underbog By Psyhopath
Ulduar By Leroux
Please note: Different name in archive=Different source.