Tdesktop: Hover-activated buttons yes/no?

[ralesk]

There's this thing with the attachment and emoticon buttons that they activate on hover (bringing up the little windows)... and to be quite honest I find that a really weird behaviour.

So I'd just like to ask the others here in the issue-land whether it's just me or they too are bothered by it.

It doesn't seem like a hard thing to change either way (I mean, to activate them on click like every other button/menuitem/whatever).

[VitRom]

+1, it's VERY annoying.
Especially taking in account a wide-spread reading habit to point with a mouse onto a key areas. One tiny move over the last message timestamp and a huge popup blows in eyes.

Add.:
Regardless of any "reading habits" this ugly popup impertinently pops up during a very generic mouse operation:
1) right-click inside the input field and paste a short (not more then 1 line) text
2) move mouse to the right to click on the "Send" button

[amiremami]

I agree with @ralesk and @VitRom . We worked for years with the point and click system, it's really annoying that hovers make the tooltip appears accidently. I was thinking maybe it's better to show the emoticons tooltip as a fixed sidebar, same as this:

This will prevent accident hover thing, and also increases speed in searching and choosing the sticker we want to send.

[ralesk]

Still wishing for the hover popups to be turned into click-activated ones. Any feedback from developers on this, and other users?

[ralesk]

I still regularly bump into not wanting to open the emoji popup but managing to and ending up almost clicking an emoji.

[amiremami]

After working a lot with Telegram, I get used to it and now I'm too lazy for clicking on emoji button for opening it! 😄

[VitRom]

A two kind of jokes are here, one with a smile(s), and another one for those who understands that a joke's salt not in the smile(s).
Hover-activation is for the first only.
Er... :-)

PS.
Just curious HOW is this stupid hover should work on the completely click-driven systems like Android phones. AFAIK there's no any mouse nor any other source of "hover" events. So WTF how this "brilliant smart design piece" decision been placed into production at all?

[ralesk]

My biggest problem with all the UI bugs I reported is that nobody from Telegram bothers to respond to it.

[stek29]

1751 btw

[ralesk]

Thanks @stek29. Amazing response time there too.

[gottesman]

The user's list from a group, with less than 100 members, just pops up when I move the mouse to the Back Button when I want to go back to main screen. That's pretty annoying, because I end up viewing a user's profile if I just insta-click.

[john-preston]

@gottesman That's a regression, this dropdown should appear below the top bar (which leads to group profile or back), I'll fix that in the next version, thanks.

[ralesk]

I wonder if there's even a point of that popup. I mean going to the group profile gives you a much more convenient user list anyway.

[gottesman]

@john-preston It's way better now in the new Alpha :thumbsup:

[VBelozyorov]

@john-preston but what about this original issue with emoji toolbar? If you afraid to change UX, simply add option to switch between mouse move and click on emoji button.

[john-preston]

@VBelozyorov Now you can just use three column mode and not have emoji pan appear on hover event.

[VBelozyorov]

Excuse me, what is

three column mode

I've tried to search, but no success.

[john-preston]

@VBelozyorov You can click on the emoji icon near the send button and switch to a three column mode.

[VBelozyorov]

Hmm…
I have v1.0.29 on Linux (openSUSE Leap 42.2)
But I have no send button:

Meanwhile emoji toolbar looks like this:

It's quite three-columned for me, but it's still appears on mouse hover on emoji button

[john-preston]

@VBelozyorov I mean click on the emoji icon (near to send button when send button is displayed, when it is not — near to the record audio message button, in the bottom right corner of the screen).

[VBelozyorov]

Sorry, I do not understand - what should happen when I click on it?
What happens now: _hover_ - _toolbar appear_ - _click_ - _toolbar disappear_
And all goes the same way on next _hover_, behavior is not changes.

[john-preston]

@VBelozyorov Looks like your screen is too small for the third column then :( Sorry. It was supposed to become like this:

[john-preston]

[VBelozyorov]

1920×1080 isn't big enough?
Tried with maximized window, of course. (GIF with that resolution too big to upload here)

[john-preston]

@VBelozyorov Ah, I forgot! It is available only in the alpha version right now, you can try it from https://desktop.telegram.org/changelog#alpha-version or wait for the next stable version update.

[VBelozyorov]

It's interesting, but not solution (for me). All those emoji overload window and make message perception more difficult.
Thanks for make this panel optional.

[ralesk]

I stand with @VBelozyorov :) Glad that the emoji toolbar three panel mode is (will be) optional; it certainly doesn't solve the issue for those who use the collapsed (narrow window, single panel) mode. The hover on the bottom icons (or really, everywhere) gets in the way too much.

[ralesk]

P.S. Thanks for finally responding to this issue.

[knickers]

Just wanted to chime in to keep this thread active because this is actually pretty important. A setting to turn off emoji panel open-on-hover is the proper solution in my opinion. I love telegram and will continue to use it, but this happens to me dozens of times per day and gets really frustrating.

[kke]

The smileyface is too close to the "scroll to bottom" thing and the hover thing always opens and instead of scroll to bottom, your cursor now points to a heart icon which is where the scroll to bottom buttom was before the hover thing appeared over it. Annoying.

[ralesk]

I can't count the amount of times I have to try and retry and retry clicking something because the god damned hover smileys popped up.

[YanDoroshenko]

I'm here because of the stupid emoji menu that annoys the living daylight out of me. I NEVER use emoji or stickers or gifs, so the only purpose the emoji popup has for me is to drive me insane.

[Kirrrr]

It is just unbelievable...
The only thing many people here need is a configurable hover timeout for damned emoji button. No bloody UI filosophy or UX ideology. Just one configurable timeout value. What the heck?

[S-U-M-1]

How has it taken nearly 3 years to just add a simple 250ms delay on that damn emoji button?

[YanDoroshenko]

@S-U-M-1 You're saying "has taken" as if it was done.

[S-U-M-1]

@YanDoroshenko Exactly.

[Kirrrr]

@S-U-M-1
Erm... So... It's done???

[ralesk]

Not that I can see...

[S-U-M-1]

@Kirrrr No, I'm saying "exactly" as in it wasn't even done, let alone "has taken" time to do.