Syndesis: After Deleting all integrations, number of messages still shows up

[snandakumar87]

After Deleting all integrations, number of messages still shows up, technically these messages are not reachable, since they are tied to the integrations and integrations are no longer available

Expected behavior

The messages related to the integrations deleted shouldnt show up on the summary page.

Tasks involved / Steps to Reproduce

1. Create an integration, such that messages are populated
2. Delete the integration and navigate to the summary page
3. We can see that the number of integrations shows up as 0, but the messages still shows up as 55.
4. These messages arent reachable in any way after the integrations are deleted.

[heiko-braun]

@syndesisio/backend IIRC there is related report by @KurtStam already? What are you thoughts on this?

[KurtStam]

@heiko-braun The stats are coming from elastic. That data is not removed when an integration is deleted, the idea at the time was that if you re-import the same integration it keeps counting forward. This was as described by the User Story. As engineer I've always considered it weird, but we'd prob need to run it by @kcbabo / @gaughan before we can call it a bug.

[zregvart]

It does say "Total". It's from Prometehus, right?

[KurtStam]

sorry yes prometheus not elastic.

[chirino]

This is not a bug. This show what has happened in the system. Please note the integrations are never really deleted. They can be resurrected:)

[snandakumar87]

@chirino totally understand the idea behind doing it that way, but when looking at this for the first time, it shows a different understanding 🙂

[zregvart]

Then perhaps a small info like icon in the corner and a tooltip explaining this better would be good?

cc @syndesisio/uxd

[snandakumar87]

@zregvart +1 i think that will be a good visual cue too.

[dongniwang]

Just checking here - is this still desirable and feasible for 7.3?

If yes, I can work on a design solution.

cc: @gaughan @heiko-braun @paoloantinori @zregvart

[gaughan]

This would be great, even a manual way to clear messages would be nice for demos etc
I don't think we have space in 7.3 tho!

[dongniwang]

Would something like this be suffient? We have this pattern for Technology Preview.

@zregvart @gaughan Please take a look and let me know.

cc: @syndesisio/uxd

[heiko-braun]

@dongniwang I think this is appropriate.

[gaughan]

We need to be able to view the messages and clear them down.

[dongniwang]

@gaughan - What do you mean by viewing the message? I would assume that could be done someplace else other than in the pop-over. And we don't have an area in the app to manage all these messages.

We need to be able to view the messages and clear them down.

Maybe we can open a separate issue for this requirement? ^^

[gaughan]

So the current UI has the number of messages (55) If I have errors the next thing I want to do is see them..read them and maybe clear them. I can open a separate issue

[gaughan]

https://github.com/syndesisio/syndesis/issues/4461

[dongniwang]

Thanks @gaughan!

Then who will be implementing this update? @heiko-braun

What exactly does "Total Messages" mean? Also hoping to get @TovaCohen to help with the right wording for the pop-over.

[TovaCohen]

The doc says:
Total number of messages that have been processed by integrations in this environment in the last 30 days. This includes messages that were processed by integrations that might no longer be running or that might have been deleted from this environment.

Is that too long for a popup? Here's a shorter version:
All messages processed in the last 30 days. Integrations that processed some of these messages might no longer be running or might have been deleted.

[dongniwang]

+1 on the shorter version. Thank you @TovaCohen!

[amysueg]

@gashcrumb Can you take a look at this to implement this message design for 7.3? And if so, open a separate implementation issue we can close this design issue?

FYI @mcoker

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