Streetcomplete: "this is a service street" for name quest

Created on 25 Nov 2018  Â·  8Comments  Â·  Source: westnordost/StreetComplete

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/54515993
Is/was tagged as living_street without name.
For such streets it would be nice to have
"this is only a service street"
in the menu of the name quest.

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Well I'll reopen this then

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It is already available. Select first reason in the list available from "it has no name" in "other answers" button.

Though list is not too long, maybe it can be accessed directly from "other answers" menu.

It is already available. Select first reason in the list available from "it has no name" in "other answers" button.

Damn! :)
I even checked it, but thought "has no name" would only add noname=yes or something like that.

Perhaps it helps if I add an ellipsis to menu items that lead to a second question?

Hmm, I decided not to do this after all, because an ellipsis is hardly universally known to denote that there will be a follow-up question/menu. For example, I couldn't have answered your initial post with "_But, didn't you see the ... at the end of 'has no name'??_".

Also, it is hard to separate what would count as a follow-up question and what not - the "are you sure" dialog certainly not, but there are other dialogs which do not really present a list of options but still pose a question that is not entirely similar to the "are you sure", for example selecting "no housenumber" or selecting that there is no maxheight sign on a parking entrance.

I think, the user maybe has to simply faithfully answer the question the app asks. In this case, it asks for a name and the answer is that there is no name. Faithfully, because you need to trust that the app is smart enough to not simply tag noname=yes but that it further enquires for the reason for it having no name.

Desktop windowing systems tend to use an arrow or pointing triangle on the side (LTR/RTL sensitive) to indicate that a menu item leads to another menu. Might one work for "has no name"?

Actually common standard is:

  • A button…
    = open a popup
  • A button >
    image
    = opens a submenu

i.e. that is something different.

And that is universally known and actually how interfaces ~were~ are designed in Microsoft, Apple and KDE. The techical term is "ellipsis" BTW.
There are exact guidelines what counts as follow-up, i.e. "whether it needs any additional user input". Examples: Save As..., Open...

Quoting KDE again:

A simple confirmation dialog is not considered a dialog that requires additional information.

But apart from that,

question that is not entirely similar to the "are you sure", for example selecting "no housenumber" or selecting that there is no maxheight sign on a parking entrance.

If the options you can do as the user still are only confirm or deny, I'd still say it is a confirmation dialog.

I've looked at the other examples you've mentioned:

  • may height (pops up question about 4,5m): It is not only confirmation, it is a completely new question, i.e., I'd say yes, use ellipsis. Users should know it does not tag "no-sign" instantly…
  • no house number (asks for the building type): Obviously, yes, ellipsis. It is a completly new dialog, new question etc.

Generally you can see it like that:

  • without an ellipsis: It is just another button from the main GUI that did not fit into it or is a rarely used one
  • with an ellipsis: This opens a popup that may lead to further re-tagging/completely new quest/leaving a note etc. In any case the user is asked for something that is not just a "security-"confirmation.

Well I'll reopen this then

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