Signal-android: unable to add / remove person from group post initial group creation.

[zee0]

i wanted to send a text to a handful of folks instead of copy / pasting to them all. it seems like the only way to do this is by creating a group. i created the group, and then remembered one additional person that i wanted to add, but there seems no way to add someone after the group is created. i was forced to delete the group and start over.

[tinloaf]

What about the "Edit Group" menu item that you have when you have the group's thread open?

[zee0]

i don't have that option for some reason. i open the group's thread, hit menu, and all i have is 'add attachment', 'add contact info', and 'delete thread'. am i missing something?

samsung galaxy s2 [sgh-i777]
android 4.04
textsecure 2.0.8
at&t

[mcginty]

@zee0 I'm guessing this is an MMS group instead of a "Whisper group." I think right now that isn't a feature and we kind of consider MMS groups a legacy support so there's not much active UX work around those parts. The workaround is to just create a new group, yes.

[zee0]

i think i'm a little confused as to how to tell whether a group is sms, mms, or a 'whisper group' [which i haven't heard of until just now].

i'm sorry if these are basic questions. i've been on the wiki, and i'm afraid this info doesn't seem to be there.

[agrajaghh]

One more issue related to SMS... Its so confusing for new users. I think we should disable it by default....

[zee0]

if you tell me the answer to my questions, i'll put it on the wiki for you.

[agrajaghh]

I'm not sure but I think there is just a MMS group chat and a data/push/whisper group chat. The MMS chat is just used when not everybody in the group is registered for data/push/whisper....

[DavidNiehues]

Yes, the first time I created a new group I ran into this as well. At least a notification that
the created group isn't a push group and messages will be sent via MMS should be added.
In special that it's MMS and not SMS, since MMS (for example here in Germany, don't know about other countries) are very expensive compared to SMS or even push.

edit: As I just found out there is already a warning. Sorry for my false information.

[cryptomilk]

Could this bug be the in the focus of the next version? It is really annoying that groups are really hard to handle. If someone uninstalled TextSecure then whenever you send a message to a group you get an error that the message could not be delivered. The issue is that it couldn't be delivered to one person, but all the others received the message. So people think it isn't working but the message was delivered. In the error message you also can't find out why the delivery failed or to which person it wasn't able to deliver the message.

[pauschuu]

Via the "Update Group" Menu I can add people to the group but there is no way to remove people.

Signal 3.9.1
Android 6.0.1

[Yky]

I have the same issue on Signal 3.10.0
Android 6.0.1

[dreamflasher]

Yeah, there is no possibility to remove people from a group. Could you please add that?

[rpardee]

I too would like to be able to edit an MMS group.

[regalstreak]

Any reason to not having a remove people feature?

[jedie]

Any reason to not having a remove people feature?

Some information about removing group members are here: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/828

[dlchen]

@pauschuu I don't see an option for Update Group for MMS. Is it still possible to add a person to an existing MMS group? Or even create a new MMS group from an existing MMS group with an additional new person(s)? I don't see an easy way to do this. Thanks!
Signal 4.15.5
Android 7.1.1

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