Sdk: Dart lang should provided us an web framework

[29e7e280-0d1c-4bba-98fe-f7cd3ca7500a]

Dart lang should provided us an web framework .
Which like kotlin provided us ktor, Scala provided us playframework, Groovy provided us Grails.
Dotnet provided us asp.net mvc.
If there was a web framework built with dart (with official support)
More developers would like learn dart and use it.
Dart lang is a language which been underestimate |  

[mrmcq2u]

Whats wrong with just using angel?

[Indribell]

I had this same discussion just yesterday with a college. For Dart being a very Web focused language, it is strange how a lot of libraries like mysql, postgresql, etc are all external 3th party developed packages.

This has even have created issue where people recommended sqljocky but this library is now incompatible with Dart 2. Some people have continued the work under a different package name but its not exactly what you expect. The whole switch over from Dart 1 to Dart 2 is slightly messy because public information is now out of date and now makes people look at libraries that are not even supported anymore.

For a product developed at Google, it very strange that this detail of Google serving old information ( because of the naming ) gets overlooked. Might have been better to use a different name.

[29e7e280-0d1c-4bba-98fe-f7cd3ca7500a]

@mrmcq2u angle-dart seems good, but pub as official tools, should have the tool inside the box.

[dgrove]

https://webdev.dartlang.org/angular is a full-featured web framework provided by google. Hope this meets your needs.

[natebosch]

The original request was for a server-side web framework angular is a client side web framework.

For now the Dart team is focusing on being an awesome client side language. We're really happy that the community is also doing cool things on the server side - as of right now that won't be an area that the Dart team is prioritizing.

[Indribell]

Thank you for this update. This also explain the lacking AOT compiler in the SDK.

As we wanted Dart for a more all around projects ( including server focused projects ), this means we will drop our exploration of Dart for future project. Thank you again for this update.

[29e7e280-0d1c-4bba-98fe-f7cd3ca7500a]

ping @dgrove , Angular not server side web framework.

[mraleph]

Dart team has sharp focus on providing powerful and robust platform (language, libraries, execution environments and tools) on which you can build anything you want. This unfortunately means that Dart team simply has no resources to provide full blown server side framework.

We do however want to provide all fundamental pieces necessary for the community to build server side frameworks that would shine.

We already provide performant JIT mode execution environment - and are considering to provide tools for AOT compilation as well (either as part of an SDK or as an additional package) - details are not defined yet. With VM C FFI we are building you would be able to tap into the power of the underlying native platform where necessary - further expanding the possibilities.

There are already success stories in this space - see http://aqueduct.io/ and https://angel-dart.github.io/ - both of these are mature opinionated server frameworks used in production by various companies.