Schemaorg: Generalize honorificSuffix to suffix?

[ppKrauss]

There are some problems with proper name suffixes, when we try to use _schema.org_...

_Person_ can express your "complete name" by _familyName_, etc. and can use http://schema.org/honorificSuffix
but is not evident that "junior" (in John Doe Jr.) is a _honorificSuffix_, because is a suffix (Jr. isn't a _familyName_), but isn't "honorific".

Organization can express your "complete name" by http://schema.org/legalName
but typical names like "Unilever plc" or "Faber-Castell AG" can't be splited into main name and suffixes... In these examples, the sufixes are plc and AG.

Suggestion: to rename the _honorificSuffix_ property (to suffix) and generalize it for use in (_Person_ and) _Organization_ names.

[ppKrauss]

See this _proposal consolidated_ at my proposals/testing/issue84etAl and the diffs with honorificSuffix modification here.

PS: all at my pull request to add /proposal folder.

[HughP]

There is second option here, and that is the addition of a new property and leave the semantics of the existing properties in place. In my use case I am trying to mark up a CV/Resume in schema.org metadata but I am having trouble with my name Hugh Paterson III. The III is not part of the family name, but is part of the legal name. It is also not an honorific suffix so it seems that, given the semantics in the documentation, that this falls into an under-covered area of schema.org's descriptive power.

In contrast to the generalized solution that @ppKrauss suggests, I like the current semantics, and see the addition of a new property as a viable solution.

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[ppKrauss]

Hi @HughP , sorry, am I coming back too late? This generalization proposal is to separate plc of "Unilever plc" or AG of "Faber-Castell AG"... But my old comment (2015!) about "Junior" seems wrong. Today I realize that SchemaOrg semantic is flexible, imagine that the suffix "Junior" is to say "in honor of my father", and your suffix "III" is to say "in honor of my 2 ancestors with the same name"... Does it make sense to you?

About "parts of the legal name", it is a matter of country, sometimes the titles of honor can be made official (e.g. in the UK it seems that Isaac Newton changed his official name to Sir Isaac Newton). Same about unique organization names: "Unilever N.V." and "Unilever PLC" are officially distinct, so "PLC" and "N.V." are necessarily parts of respective official names.

PS: if "yes" I will edit the introdution to avoid confusion.