Pokeapi: Handing over PokéAPI

[phalt]

Hey folks. I have decided to stop supporting PokéAPI myself.

This community has built up enough that it can support itself now and does not need my intervention. However, when production issues occur it does affect me, and I shouldn't be a blocker for it going down. It is frustrating for people using the project for their school work or interviews, and it is frustrating for me receiving angry tweets and emails when I am on holiday and unable to respond.

Therefore I suggest you make a few decisions:

1) decide between yourselves how to move the project away from the current production server. Host it however you chose, wherever you want.
2) nominate someone or some few people to take the https://pokeapi.co domain off my hands - it is paid for another ~10 months but I will not pay for it after that.

This should keep the domain "alive" and the service running.

[tdmalone]

ping @Naramsim @jrubinator @lmerotta (and feel free to ping others you might be aware of who could be interested)

I'm happy to be part of a group that takes this on. I can't do it on my own, but I'm happy to assist.

@Naramsim I think you have mentioned before some details about the current server size etc. used to host PokeAPI - I recall it was around $80pm which looks like it might be the 16 GB droplet? (https://www.digitalocean.com/products/linux-distribution/ubuntu/)

[phalt]

Honestly you can probably get away with hosting it for free, somewhere. The problem is currently the service is built for a 2013 stack - postgres, django, nginx. You don't need all that in 2018. It is just JSON files you want to serve. I think you could find a cheaper and easier-to-maintain way of doing this.

[tdmalone]

That's true... Cloudflare + S3 would probably be close to free. @Naramsim You've generated plain JSON files from this before - is that something you could help spin up in a Docker container, which we could just run (maybe even on Travis) when we need to update? I'd be happy to supply the S3 bucket and work on the CI/CD for it.

[lmerotta]

I'm in to help @tdmalone maintaining the project !
Migrating to a more modern architecture will be time consuming. I can offer to cover the server cost in the meanwhile, and also take ownership of the domain name.

[Naramsim]

Hi guys,

I can definitely help. Soon I will graduate (October 10) and in 7 days I will start a new job, so I will not have time to 'code' till October. I can put 5€ per month or two AWS education packs.

This is what an AWS education pack is:

Student Developer Pack members receive $15 in bonus AWS credits for a total of $50-$115

You can find more details here: https://education.github.com/pack/offers

The project of @sargunv for creating static JSONs is https://github.com/pokesource/ditto. Although I think that its solution for serving these static files should be changed. It uses Flask, but for serving static files I would suggest some Python 3 project as Sanic or Vibora. The best thing could be to just use Nginx with some rewrite rules (or serve everything using AWS Lambda and store everything using S3).

Right now I own a server on Vultr paying 2.99€ per month, I host a simple Python script (through Docker) which is not CPU/memory intensive. If you don't want to go with AWS we can either stay with DO or Vultr which is cheaper.

I also suggest to bring into this conversation @cmmartti which has done an amazing job implementing GraphQL. I see he is willing to get into this project.

I would also suggest taking a deeper look if Cloudflare is really needed or not. From what I saw it caused some problems, although I know that it provides several advantages (HTTPS and zone blocking).

[phalt]

The static server idea is good, and will probably be super cheap if you cache the crap out of it too. Rewriting with nginx will also be incredibly cheap. Basically - just avoid paying for DB costs and you'll be able to use a bunch of static-file-server-type solutions

[AlbertoOS]

Hey guys, I'm also up to help maintaining the PokéAPI.
I never took the time to look into the code but I know my way around some python so I think I can help with that and I can help with the server costs a bit too.

[cmmartti]

First, I am also up to being a maintainer. I know the current code back to front.

Like Naramsim said, I have been working on implementing the API in GraphQL, and I was actually about to submit a work in progress PR. I have it working and am using it locally, but I wanted to spin up a demo production server so people can test (that's what I was trying to do now). Due to the nature of GraphQL (custom field selection and pagination) and this API in particluar (complex sorts and filters), it's not something that can be served with static JSON files.

Now the way I see it, there are a few options:

• Rewrite the REST API to serve static JSON files and the GraphQL API can be its own project that I support on my own or with the help of others.
• Keep them together using the current setup.
• Kill the GraphQL idea. This one is not happening. I've put too much work into it to just dump it (I'm doing this as self-directed learning--I didn't know much when I started). Besides, GraphQL is big, a lot of places are using it in their stack, and I think a lot of people will be interested in using it.

Now, given that I've made the decision to keep the GraphQL API idea alive, is it cheaper to run these as two separate setups, or together? The GraphQL API needs a database anyway, but it would probably still be cheaper to serve static files for v2 REST, and run a separate server with a DB for v3 GraphQL.

If you all think that this GraphQL thing is a good idea and belongs in the project (even if it's split from v2 and moved to its own repo) it would be something else we would need to maintain funding for. I can contribute a small amount, but at the moment I don't have much income. In any case, it's not ready for production yet, and won't be for a little while.

[M-Zuber]

In theory there is no reason that a graphql implementation can't use static files as it's data store

[phalt]

GraphQL is big. If you don't mind supporting it, go for it. But the REST API can and should be rewritten to be much much simpler.

[BevilaquaBruno]

i like and i think is the best idea rewrite the REST API to serve static JSON files, if you choose this option i can help. 😄 something like the solution of https://github.com/pokesource/ditto .

[neverendingqs]

If it's just static files, Netlify might be a good fit. It's free if there is only one maintainer. They may offer it free for more maintainers since this is an open source project, but will have to ask. One maintainer might be okay, since it auto-deploys on merge to master.

Want me to ask Netlify about open source hosting / pricing?

[neverendingqs]

An option for a (temporary) solution:

• During CI/CD (e.g. CircleCI), spin up a local version of PokeAPI
• Run a crawler (e.g. from https://github.com/pokesource/ditto) to extract all static files (EDIT: ah I see that ditto already has instructions on how to do that)
• Host the files as a static site

That would give us some time to slowly migrate over to a pure static files implementation.

[Exergist]

Love PokeAPI (especially in conjunction with PoroCYon's PokeApi.NET). Currently the main PokeAPI portal shows that it "will shut down soon." What is the tentative timeline for PokeAPI going offline?

In the mean time would this be a good candidate for a GoFundMe or similar effort to keep the server up while some kind of transition takes place?

[kevindesousa]

Hello,

I love the project. I have deployed the project on my infrastructure if anyone would use: pokeinfo.org
I am installing SSL :)

On the other side, I am writing a new api with Laravel 5.6 LTS and MySQL with dashboard (vuejs) to manage data, if anyone would help me :)

[tdmalone]

@neverendingqs Yes please ask Netlify! I was thinking of doing the same with Cloudflare + S3 but Netlify will be much easier to manage because it does almost everything for you.

@Exergist The max timeline is 10 months (when the domain name expires) but it might be sooner if the Digital Ocean support expires. Re GoFundMe, the main problem is that Paul doesn’t have the time to maintain anymore. The funds needed are not a lot - especially if we convert to static hosting.

@kevindesousa That looks good! I note assets aren’t loading yet and the domain listed on the page is pokeapi.co, though. Where are you hosting? Can you manage the cost associated with all the hits if pokeapi.co was directed to you?

[tdmalone]

@cmmartti Re GraphQL, I think we should keep it separate from this discussion for now - and think about combining it when it’s ready for production. It sounds great, but also has the potential to make the keeping-PokeAPI-running-as-is discussion more complex. What do you think?

[tdmalone]

Summary so far

People willing to help maintain:

• @tdmalone (server costs; CI/CD)
• @lmerotta (server costs; domain ownership)
• @naramsim (server costs; Python; Docker; AWS student packs)
• @AlbertoOS (Python; server costs)
• @cmmartti (GraphQL; knows current code back to front)
• @BevilaquaBruno (static rewriting)
• @neverendingqs (Netlify & CI/CD)
• @kevindesousa (hosting; DevOps stuff)
• maybe @Exergist?

Have I covered everyone/everything?

Potential steps from here

I think that’s a decent group of people with a good spread of skills to get us going.

If no-one disagrees, I’d like to suggest we:

• transfer the domain to @lmerotta (are you happy to cover renewal costs too? If that’s too much, alternatively I am happy to take it on instead)
• look into the static conversion for hosting (probably just spinning up pokesource/ditto & local API in CI for now and then hosting on Netlify)
• then focus on other things such as rewriting the API, GraphQL, etc.

Thoughts? Agree/disagree?

[kevindesousa]

@tdmalone My servers are hosted by OVH cloud with Docker stack, so I Can upgrade easily and the cost is already managed by me and have time to help :)
We can test the charge to know and add cache if needed. (I don't know the actual charge if pokeapi.co)

If you need help, my skills : devops-php-laravel-vuejs

[neverendingqs]

Emailed:

Hi Netlify,

My name is Mark, and I represent a popular open source project called PokéAPI (https://github.com/PokeAPI/pokeapi), an open RESTful API that has served over 400 million requests since inception. The goal of the project is to provide an API to support learners for educational purposes.

We are in the midst of looking for a new hosting platform, and I brought up Netlify, as it is a platform I already know and trust (and deploy my own sites on). I took a look at the pricing page (https://www.netlify.com/pricing/) and saw a reference about Vue.js and a free open source team plan (https://twitter.com/youyuxi/status/952220999877058561). Does Netlify still offer those, and if so, could we get more details about it, either via email or on https://github.com/PokeAPI/pokeapi/issues/350?

Thanks,
Mark

[cmmartti]

@tdmalone
Re GraphQL: I fully agree with that. I brought it up just in case it would affect anything.

As far as the proposed plan goes, I agree with that too. I just want to mention that I think it's important that any re-write of the REST API should be backwards compatible with the v2 API (we can probably kill v1 at this point--do we have numbers for how much it's used?).

[neverendingqs]

Update: https://github.com/pokesource/ditto won't work out of the box because Flask is taking the static files and re-mapping the domain name at GET time (and it looks like it only supports HTTP).

The bigger problem though is that the project has no license, so we can't just use / adapt the code unless the author gives us permission. The last commit was in 2016, so there might be a chance the author is still interested and is willing change to a friendly license (e.g. MIT).

[sargunv]

@neverendingqs Hi, I wrote pokesource/ditto and I've been following this discussion from my email. I'd be happy to add a license. I typically use Apache 2.0 on my projects, would that be suitable?

[sargunv]

I've gone ahead and added the Apache 2.0 license to ditto.

[neverendingqs]

W00t! Apache 2.0 would be fine. Just need to add attribution to it in this project, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

Since you're here @sargunv - I think the only change we would need to make is to update the clone script to use a domain name different than from the source (and allowing HTTPS instead of hardcoding HTTP). Did I miss anything?

At this project's side of things, I think all we need to do is to put the JSON in the right place, set the right headers for that directory (Content-Type to be application/json), and de-template all the files in https://github.com/PokeAPI/pokeapi/tree/master/templates to pure HTML.

[sargunv]

@neverendingqs

I recommend putting ditto behind an Nginx reverse proxy (I've used linuxserver/letsencrypt to set that up before with HTTPS). If I recall correctly, passing the right headers through the reverse proxy will change the domain properly. Here's a config I used to use for that, but I don't have much memory of it: https://github.com/pokesource/substitute/blob/master/nginx.conf.

[sargunv]

If I have time this weekend, I'll give resurrecting ditto a shot. I've already got an Nginx install with HTTPS for my personal site, so I'll try putting ditto behind that and see how it goes.

[neverendingqs]

@sargunv - hmmm that's not the static file solution I was thinking of. I will have to defer to others in terms of how much we save if we switch to a nginx solution. We still have to generate the JSON files in CI, and once we have those files, it seems like a smaller step to simply replace all instances of http://localhost with https://pokeapi.co before serving them vs. another switching to another backend.

[5punk]

Can someone share the bandwidth requirement details here?
@phalt or anyone with this sort of information.

I've a VPS I'm willing to host this service on, just want to make sure I can meet the min reqs.

[sargunv]

@neverendingqs You mean just generate the json with ditto and serve with another system? In that case, a simple sed on content generated with ditto clone should be sufficient.

[tdmalone]

I haven't used ditto yet but the above sounds perfect - generate and replace the URL.
As for actually serving HTTPS, we don't have to worry about that - Netlify will do it out of the box, S3+Cloudfront will do it, and for anything else, there's Cloudflare. No-one need worry about HTTPS in 2018. 😛

@5punk I'm not sure of the bandwidth requirements, but the hosting issues thus far have been the server resources I believe. If we go static and cache the heck out of it, bandwidth should be minimal (or free).

[Naramsim]

Hi, I suggest we continue this discussion on our Slack server. I think we should create a separate channel from the existing ones, don't know if it should be public or only accessible to few of us.

Another alternative to Netlify could be using Now. We can also spin up a Node server there to handle URL rewrites.

[elementh]

Although I understand the need of moving the discussion to the Slack server, please consider updating this thread from time to time.

I'm personally interested in the outcome of the project and this discussion but I don't know if I'd have the time to keep up with the slack discussion.

Thank you! :)

[Naramsim]

Ok, in the meantime I updated the PR which brings the new data from Veekun. https://github.com/PokeAPI/pokeapi/pull/317

[BevilaquaBruno]

I am using Ditto right now and i think we can create a code in python or PHP to change all occurrences of https://localhost to a domain name, we can do this if we use the static json of Ditto.

I have a gist (it's a copy of https://github.com/Darkseal/dir2json) to turn all the folders and all the content of the JSON files into a single JSON, sure this is useless for us now, i think, but it's a example.

[tdmalone]

@Naramsim I thought about Slack too, but in two minds about it. If we do it - gotta be public I think, this is open source after all. But all being in different time zones, Slack can be a challenge - I find GitHub issues work better as they’re asynchronous. Slack you’ve almost gotta be there at the time, or you miss out.

Having said that, I think we’ve found some great ideas here and we just need to drive it into some form of consensus for stepping forward.

[cmmartti]

@Naramsim
I would personally prefer it if this discussion was kept here rather than on Slack, for the reasons @tdmalone mentioned.

[neverendingqs]

I don't mind continuing the static files conversation here, but I'm also happy having it as another issue.

For those interested in the static files option, I just want to clarify that the goal is to have no server-side code (e.g. python, php). Instead, we simply generate a file for every possible API endpoint (e.g. https://pokeapi.co/api/v2/pokemon/151 maps to a JSON file sitting on a server somewhere). This means we can do very little to transform the file on its way out.

The reasons for this approach are:

• Theoretically it's a lot cheaper. Instead of paying for servers to be running 24 hours a day, we pay for how much it is used (e.g. something like $0.001 per 1000 requests)
• Effectively offload any production issues to Netlify or AWS - if anything goes wrong, it is either we deployed something wrong or Netlify / AWS is having an issue. It will almost never randomly interrupt a developer's day (hopefully those deploying are there to monitor new deployments :) ) (maybe this is a convincing enough point to get @phalt to stay in this project :) ).

As for actually serving HTTPS, we don't have to worry about that - Netlify will do it out of the box, S3+Cloudfront will do it, and for anything else, there's Cloudflare.

S3 + Cloudfront + Certificate Manager is almost like HTTPS out-of-the-box ;)

Another alternative to Netlify could be using Now. We can also spin up a Node server there to handle URL rewrites.

Now's definitely a candidate, but they don't have a CDN for their OSS plan. Although I don't think we necessarily need one, especially if it's free (as long as we don't hit their bandswidth limit). Again though, if we already have the static files, it seems like a smaller step to just transform + host the static files vs. figuring out hosting for a back-end server.

[neverendingqs]

Using sed post-ditto to transform the JSON files would work, but then we'll be dealing with the file system twice per file (once to download it, and once to fix the domains). It should perform a lot faster if we do it before writing the file to disk, as the entire JSON blob is still in memory.

I have not tested this, but this is an example of how we can do it inside ditto to avoid dealing with the file system twice: https://github.com/pokesource/ditto/pull/3

[neverendingqs]

Potential blocker: it takes a longggggg time to build the docker container. Is it safe to assume it takes that long to get a local build running? Both CircleCi and Travis CI aren't happy with long-running jobs...

CircleCI:

Note: Jobs have a maximum runtime of 5 hours. If your jobs are timing out, consider running some of them in parallel.

Travis CI:

When a job on a public repository takes longer than 50 minutes.

[sargunv]

Once upon a time there was a PR to PokeApi that optimized table creation using bulk inserts. I don't believe it ever got merged, but it claimed a 50% improvement in build time. We could take a look at that and update for master if possible.

[neverendingqs]

@tdmalone - would you be game for creating a GitHub project to split out the discussions here? It might be easier to track everything that way.

[neverendingqs]

Hmm one thing about using static files is that routes like https://pokeapi.co/api/v2/language/ will look different (e.g. it will have to look something like https://pokeapi.co/api/v2/language/index.json). I guess we can always go to a v3...?

[sargunv]

Most http servers can be configured to serve an index file as the default for a directory.

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Hmm one thing about using static files is that routes like https://pokeapi.co/api/v2/language/ will look different (e.g. it will have to look something like https://pokeapi.co/api/v2/language/index.json). I guess we can always go to a v3...?

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[cmmartti]

@sargunv
By coincidence, I am already working on this, though I wasn't aware that there was a closed PR for it. I am using a similar approach to that PR, but using bulk_create in batches of 200 and also setting foreign keys directly (e.g. language_id = int(info[1])) rather than getting the object with that key and assigning it to the model (e.g. language = Language.objects.get(pk = int(info[1]))).

Setting foreign keys directly has the downside that it will fail if that foreign key doesn't already exist, meaning it won't be possible to build just a part of the DB like we can now (so you will only be able to call build_all()), but it's all around a much faster process now so that shouldn't really matter.

Initial tests indicate that it may be as much as a staggering two orders of magnitude faster than individually saving each object. The pokemon_v2_pokemonmove table has more than 500 000 records and it usually took hours to build that table alone, but using the new fast build, it takes about three or four minutes. I'm guessing that the whole DB build will take around 10–15 minutes, once I finish converting it all.

I'll put together a work in progress PR.

[cmmartti]

See #351.

[tdmalone]

@neverendingqs As @sargunv pointed out, I don’t think the .json extension will be a problem. We can either use an index document (easy with S3, I’m sure Netlify makes it easy too), or we can write the files directly with no extension and ensure we set the mime type correctly (S3 all good, again I’m sure Netlify would have a way).

@phalt Do you think you could add the people who have offered to help to the PokeAPI GitHub organisation, and give a few of us admin, so we can get started with using things like Projects?
EDIT: List of people in this comment.

[sargunv]

I can also relocate the ditto repo to the org if we're going to be using it for this effort

[sargunv]

I've relocated ditto to PokeAPI/ditto but I'll need @phalt to give me write access to the repo

[phalt]

I've relocated ditto to PokeAPI/ditto but I'll need @phalt to give me write access to the repo

Done. Collaborator team also has write access

[phalt]

Do you think you could add the people who have offered to help to the PokeAPI GitHub organisation, and give a few of us admin, so we can get started with using things like Projects?

The current team called Contributors can be used as the admin team, the other members can be added to the Supporters team which I just created. Giving admin to everyone is bad, so limit it to just Contributors :) cc @tdmalone

[phalt]

@tdmalone and @Naramsim both have admin access to the whole project now.

[tdmalone]

Thanks for your trust and support @phalt, and for taking it this far!

The only other thing is the domain - @lmerotta did offer, I’m happy to, and @Naramsim is probably happy to as well I would imagine. What do you need for that @phalt - an email address to change the contact to? Will probably need the auth code from you too. I’m on tdmalone at gmail if you wanted to set it to me, I could hang on to it until we work out whether we’re gonna be in S3/Netlify/elsewhere and then work out then where best to keep it.

[tdmalone]

@neverendingqs Projects are now enabled. Go nuts!

[Naramsim]

Yeah, I would probably let @tdmalone or @lmerotta. I own some domains at Namecheap but I never exchanged a domain, I don't know how to do it. I don't even know how much the pokeapi.co domain itself costs.

About the funding of the project, do you think that we should go through OpenCollective or how?

[neverendingqs]

@tdmalone - I am unable to create a new project. It looks like I'm not in the org: https://github.com/orgs/PokeAPI/people. I'm guessing I am also not in the repo. I think I need one or the other to create a new project - could you add me?

[neverendingqs]

From Netlify, there are two things we need to do:

• Abide to the following usage limits (https://www.netlify.com/tos/):
  
  
  
  • Network Bandwidth: 100GB/month - Soft
  
  
  • Storage: 100GB - Soft
  
  
• Add a reference to Netlify, perhaps with a Netlify logo on the main page

Let me know if this works for you by :+1:ing this comment, or :-1: if it doesn't with a comment why.

[sargunv]

@neverendingqs Those limits seem reasonable to me. Does anyone have the numbers on how much bandwidth it uses right now?

Also @phalt, I'd like to tweak some settings in the ditto repo, could you give me access to do that? The same access that I have to the pokekotlin repo. Thanks!

@Naramsim Open collective looks like a reasonable way to fund the project. How much funding would it take? Afaik it's the domain and perhaps some CI cost if a free CI system doesn't work out. Is there anything else required?

[phalt]

@sargunv mr @tdmalone or @Naramsim have full access to the project so they should be able to tweak settings for you.

Bandwidth - I can give you rough numbers based on the stats we track in the API. It's roughly 30k-50k API hits a day. When Pokémon GO was going crazy it was around 200k hits a day. I don't expect that type of spike to happen again in the future though.

@Naramsim my home wifi is out so I will get you the namecheap costs next week when I am back in the office.

[Naramsim]

@sargunv What I want to know is where the money goes if I pay using OpenCollective and if part of the donation is lost in the process (e.g. to the OpenCollective team, to Mastercard, ...).

I gave you admin access for Ditto.

[neverendingqs]

@Naramsim - any chance you can give me contributor / member access to the org? :). I would like using projects to track what's left.

EDIT by @tdmalone: Done.

[Naramsim]

Hi, how would you keep the functionality of looking up pokemons, items, berries, etc by name and ID?

If we go for a static no-server solution we will need to duplicate some files.

For example, this two queries /api/v2/pokemon/bulbasaur and /api/v2/pokemon/1 will be two separate files with the identical content.

This is ok if Netlify allows us to use those 100GB. But to do the things right we should use rewrite rules.

[neverendingqs]

If the duplicate files are auto-generated, I am not concerned that they are duplicated. Like you said, space doesn't seem to be too big of a deal. Did you have other concerns in mind?

[tdmalone]

@neverendingqs Apologies for missing those permissions - you should now have access.

[neverendingqs]

Thanks! I will start populating https://github.com/orgs/PokeAPI/projects/1 based on the discussions here.

[tdmalone]

@neverendingqs Awesome!! And then I imagine we close off this issue and continue in Projects/other Issues? (I haven’t used used Projects much but I like what I see so far!)

With this new life in the project, we should probably also review old closed PRs - and possibly new issues - and reopen ones that are still valid (a bunch of exisiting ones were closed without resolution probably sometime last year I think).

[neverendingqs]

And then I imagine we close off this issue and continue in Projects/other Issues? (I haven’t used used Projects much but I like what I see so far!)

This is my first time in a real-life scenario too. We _could_ leave this issue open for general discussion and proposing new work items, or we can just create new issues as they come. I'm okay with whatever works best for everyone.

With this new life in the project, we should probably also review old closed PRs - and possibly new issues - and reopen ones that are still valid (a bunch of exisiting ones were closed without resolution probably sometime last year I think).

That sounds like a candidate for another project ;) .

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FYI I believe I have finished populating the project. Please comment if I missed anything.

[cmmartti]

@neverendingqs
What about converting the site portal to a static site? Right now it uses Django templates. I can work on that next.

[tdmalone]

@tdmalone @lmerotta @Naramsim @AlbertoOS @cmmartti @BevilaquaBruno @neverendingqs @kevindesousa @Exergist @5punk @elementh
Thank you everyone for your contributions to this issue! Please check out the project set up by @neverendingqs at https://github.com/orgs/PokeAPI/projects/1 - is there anything that is missing? Is it ok if we go ahead and close this issue and continue discussion in the separate issues?

Feel free to create additional issues if required, and if anyone needs any additional access to help you get started on something you'd like to work on, just let me or @Naramsim know.

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One thing I think that is outstanding and doesn't quite fit into the static migration project is the potential of using GoFundMe/OpenCollective/or similar. If anyone is keen on taking that on, feel free to create a separate issue. Personally I'm not sure it's worth the maintenance effort - especially given our costs should be low and several of us are willing to help out - but that's just my opinion and it may well be useful if someone is willing to make it work!

[neverendingqs]

@tdmalone @Naramsim I have some minor security questions. I will ping you on Slack about those.

[tdmalone]

^ Re the above. Given that pushes to master will be deploying live once our static migration project is complete, security settings have been updated to:

• require 2FA for organisation members
• require at least 2 reviewers and passing CI before merges to the master branch

[AlbertoOS]

@tdmalone can you add me to the organization so I can see the project?

[cmmartti]

@tdmalone
Can you add me back to the organisation? I got automatically booted out because I didn't have 2FA enabled yet.

[neverendingqs]

@AlbertoOS - I have changed the visibility settings of the project. I was able to see it when logged out to test it, so that should mean you can see it as well.

[neverendingqs]

@Naramsim @tdmalone - if there are organization admin-related questions, what is the best way to contact you? This issue? Slack?

I think it would be best to establish that for future reference.

[tdmalone]

@cmmartti Apologies for the confusion regarding the 2FA and assignment in #355! I didn't realise enabling that would unassign you. GitHub told me it would send you an e-mail to ask you to enable 2FA. 😄Anyway, I now have both re-added and reassigned you.

@AlbertoOS As well as the project visibility being changed by @neverendingqs, I've also added you to the organisation. Let us know if you come across anything else you need.

@neverendingqs I imagine we'll probably close this issue once things have settled but you are more than welcome to contact me in a variety of ways (and I imagine @Naramsim's contact preferences would be similarly flexible). I think GitHub issues is probably the best first port of call, as it's open and transparent to everyone. If it's security related or otherwise has a specific need to be private, then Slack DM is fine. I'm also ok with Twitter (@tdmalone) - especially useful when a quick response is needed - or e-mail (tdmalone at gmail - however I do get a lot of e-mail and can be slow seeing things there). I think my only real preference is keeping discussion open and accessible whenever possible. But wherever that discussion happens, I will try to be very available.

I think once we get settled there won't be a lot that needs doing by an 'admin' anyway. If there is, and if that becomes a blocker, then we probably need more admins.

[tdmalone]

I have also invited to the PokeAPI organisation the remaining people from this issue who offered to help out.

If they all accept, that will give us the following organisation members: AlbertoOS, BevilaquaBruno, cmmartti, kevindesousa, lmerotta, Naramsim, neverendingqs, phalt, sargunv, tdmalone and TheTommyTwitch.

Additionally: cmmartti, Naramsim, neverendingqs, sargunv & tdmalone are the team with write access to the core PokeAPI repos (pokeapi, ditto and sprites).

@TheTommyTwitch We haven't heard from you in this issue but I just wanted to check that you are still happy maintaining pokedex-promise-v2?

[tdmalone]

We also have these repos:

• pykemon - I don't think there's a current maintainer for this; @Kronopt or @BeatButton, are you interested in maintaining?
• pokeapi-js-wrapper - I think @Naramsim is maintaining this - is that correct?
• pokekotlin - I think @sargunv is maintaining this - is that correct?

[sargunv]

pokekotlin - I think @sargunv is maintaining this - is that correct?

Sort of, I haven't built/tested it recently but I can get on that to make sure it still works and bring it into 2018. I do have some major improvements planned for it.

[BeatButton]

No promises at this time, but I'll take a look. I didn't end up actually using the library much since it didn't have Python 3 support.

[tasadurian]

@tdmalone I am still happy to maintain pokedex-promise-v2. I will also give write access to @Naramsim. I can help with the migration of PokeAPI to static files if needed.

[tdmalone]

@TheTommyTwitch Awesome! Feel free to check out https://github.com/orgs/PokeAPI/projects/1 and jump in on any issues you’re interested in :)

[lmerotta]

Sorry for not responding, I've been working extra hours all weekend !

First, thanks for letting me be part of the PokéAPI org, a dream come true :)

Regarding the domain, I'm happy to cover renewal costs too ! I already have some servers & domain names hosted at a host I was working for a few years ago, so they'll make me pay cheaper than what we usually see ! I'll cover the subject it the other issue if you don't mind.

[jrubinator]

Apologies for the much-delayed response: I have a smattering of experience, but nothing like expertise in any of the changes. I'm also pretty low on free time, but would be happy to lend a hand where I can!

Also, pinging @GregHilmes, the maintainer of of pokebase - they've been making some changes there recently, and may find this conversation interesting.

[GregHilmes]

I would love to do anything related to this project. Unfortunately (like most here, I'm guessing) I don't have the available time. I just started pursuing my CS degree this past August and it has taken more of my personal coding time than I would like (hence the sudden drop in pokebase commits).

As PokeAPI moves forward, I would like to stay somewhat in-tune with the changes, and keep maintaining my python wrapper. If I could chose, I would like to be aiding in this way: I would get delegated smaller, specific tasks from a core developer. If anyone has another suggestion where I might be of use, do ask me - I want to help as fully as I can at the moment.

[Exergist]

@tdmalone All the folks here are clearly FAR more knowledgeable about everything related to maintaining/improving/transferring PokeAPI, so it would definitely be best for me to not muddy the water (I'm more of a novice C# hobbyist).

As of right now it looks like data requests are not going through. I haven't been following all the dialog closely, so maybe this was planned. In any event, is the intention for the existing v2 to go dark while the collective works to transfer, implement v3, etc?

[sargunv]

@Exergist: Nope, that's not the intention; this outage wasn't planned.

[tdmalone]

I'm going to close this issue now as everything related to the handover is being discussed in other issues.

The main home for this is the meta-project at https://github.com/orgs/PokeAPI/projects/1

[Kronopt]

@tdmalone sorry I haven't answered before. Didn't notice the mention until now...
I would happily help maintain pykemon, if help is still needed!