Openra: Service/repair pad should be able to sell units

Created on 4 Sep 2013 · 25Comments · Source: OpenRA/OpenRA

If you want to stay true to the original Red Alert then you should be able to sell units while they are on the repair/servicepad.

If im not mistaken that was an function in atleast RA1.

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Also infantry if they are standing above walls!

epicelite on 4 Sep 2013

In the original TD you can sell a vehicle on a Repair Facility/Repair Bay but if you try to do the same in OpenRA something else happens.

In original TD
Before:
c c95 2014-07-11 20-48-10-20
After:
c c95 2014-07-11 20-55-45-32
In OpenRA TD
Before:
openra 2014-07-11 20-35-31-43
During:
openra 2014-07-11 20-35-33-71
After:
openra 2014-07-11 20-35-36-13

Snurre86 on 12 Jul 2014

In release 2014-10-29 you are not able to sell the repair pad with a vehicle on it. This is an improvement in the games predictability but you can not sell a vehicle.

Snurre86 on 28 Dec 2014

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If you try to sell the vehicle on a repair pad and it does not get sold the building becomes unsellable even without a vehicle on it.

Snurre86 on 28 Dec 2014

Let's have a separate ticket for that.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Snurre86 [email protected] wrote:

If you try to sell the vehicle on a repair pad and it does not get sold
the building becomes unsellable even without a vehicle on it.

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chrisforbes on 28 Dec 2014

Separate ticket for what, its just a big mess. If you want a vehicle to be sold on repair bay then you need vehicles that are in mint condition to have access to the repair bay and the repair bay must be able to be sold after the vehicle is sold. If you want your vehicle not to be sold on a repair bay then the sale icon must be replaced with a sale icon that has a red line across it. then you have the option of being able to sell the repair bay with a vehicle on it or block the possibility of it being sold with a vehicle on it, if the latter you still need a new no sell icon.

Snurre86 on 29 Dec 2014

(For attempting to sell a vehicle breaking subsequent selling of the repair
pad, if that's what you're saying is currently happening in some cases?)

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Snurre86 [email protected] wrote:

Separate ticket for what, its just a big mess. If you want a vehicle to be
sold on repair bay then you need vehicles that are in mint condition to
have access to the repair bay and the repair bay must be able to be sold
after the vehicle is sold. If you want your vehicle not to be sold on a
repair bay then the sale icon must be replaced with a sale icon that has a
red line across it. then you have the option of being able to sell the
repair bay with a vehicle on it or block the possibility of it being sold
with a vehicle on it, if the latter you still need a new no sell icon.

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chrisforbes on 29 Dec 2014

Yes, but why bother?

Snurre86 on 29 Dec 2014

Because it is completely separate from the missing feature of selling vehicles.

pchote on 29 Dec 2014

I don't think so, you guys need to make up your mind about where you wanna go, then I will know what to report.

Snurre86 on 29 Dec 2014

7225.

pchote on 29 Dec 2014

This is now straightforward to implement using upgrades:

Make the service depot apply an upgrade to currently docked units
Use the upgrade to enable the Sellable trait on vehicles

While I suspect that some people might complain at the thought of adding this feature to our default mods, we should at least add the trait support for it.

pchote on 22 Nov 2015

The Tool tip should not show that you sell the Nod Buggy if you in fact are about to sell the Repair Facility.
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PS could not get the dollar icon to show in the screenshots.

Snurre86 on 21 Nov 2016

If we want current status of no reselling of the vehicle we need this icon. Then also disabling the selling of the repair facility when the Nod buggy tool tip shows.
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Snurre86 on 21 Nov 2016

Selling vehicles in the original games (before they removed the feature) always smelled of a bug when units were on top of buildings that they couldn't easily fix (especially since @epicelite mentioned infantry selling on walls above). It never worked very well or had a real purpose in the game. I consider us not having it to be a feature.

pchote on 21 Nov 2016

👎1

It might started out as that, but RA2 (and maybe TS already) had separate selling cursors for vehicles and buildings, which implies an Ascended Glitch to me.

GraionDilach on 22 Nov 2016

👍1

Yep, but then they removed it completely in RA2:YR (or was it one of the RA2 patches?).

pchote on 22 Nov 2016

It was YR - probably they did this for the Grinder to be unique.

GraionDilach on 22 Nov 2016

Also note that the hot keys are jacked up for some of the mods - X should scatter units, not bring up the sell cursor.

hypercube33 on 24 Nov 2016

Ctrl-X scatters, iirc.

Phrohdoh on 24 Nov 2016

Also note that the hot keys are jacked up for some of the mods - X should scatter units, not bring up the sell cursor.

Sounds like someone messed with your hotkey setup. The power down cursor is triggered when pressing x (and yes, ctrl + x is scatter): https://github.com/OpenRA/OpenRA/wiki/Hotkeys

abcdefg30 on 24 Nov 2016

CTRL+X is dumb since X is the scatter from original CNC.

To that point however, it doesn't work worth a shit anyway...

The sell function is good because you have units that can take husks and hijack vehicles - which is an attack on your part, but if you don't, for example, actually want the unit, you can sell it for cash.

Also, crates may give you stuff you dont want. Or if you're nearly dead, selling off units to buy an MCV.

hypercube33 on 24 Nov 2016

No change.
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Snurre86 on 18 Mar 2017

You are not selling the yak.
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Snurre86 on 21 Mar 2017

Very ancient topic but once you guys sort out "Engineer to enter/repair" priority problem by force move order, then you might be able to use "DeliversCash": make units "Force enter" into FIX then they will turn into cash! DeliversCash already features filter now, by recent refactoring. Much neater than waiting for the units to enter FIX and trying not to click over the FIX building itself and aim for the unit one by one.