Bibliometa has ONIX feeds which we can import into Open Library:
issues related to onix parsing: #2, #3
link to metadata for the publisher's websiteThe items containing the files to import into Open Library are:
cc: @salman-bhai, @hornc
I'm all in to get started on this! Do we have some documentation on how to import them for the perspective of a developer or should that be added to the To-Do as well?
The example CUP feed doesn't appear to have any strong identifiers for authors. What's the proposal for reconciling author name and affiliation (which it appears is all that is there) with the Open Library author records?
I am very leery of making the messy OpenLibrary data even messier.
As a first pass, we could simply identify which books we already have on OL, and simply add edition/work data to these (without creating any new authors)
Cory (from bibliometa) writes:
Indeed, contributor disambiguation is an understandable issue. The ONIX standard can accomodate ISNI identifiers (ISNI.org) for authors and contributors in general. However, very few publishers are currently integrating ISNI's into their ONIX feeds, despite that when you check, many (if not most) contributors already have ISNI numbers.
Ken and I have explored the ISNI API in order to imagine offering ONIX enrichment services through our own platform, but we haven't found the right partners yet who would be motivated to use them.
What are you thoughts around the ISNI, or other author identifiers?
I like your idea of augmenting existing OL book metadata with cherry-picked fields like Main Description as a first step of using the ONIX to improve records.
Only adding editions would definitely be a lower risk option and would allow starting to get familiar with the ONIX standard, but it wouldn't achieve what I understood to be the primary goal of expanding and modernizing the corpus of cataloged books.
@tfmorris you're right -- though if we can get a parser in place and figure out a solution for author authority IDs, there are ~1M records Cory can see about getting us which have isbn. Yes, it does kind of beg the question, how do we get/ensure the author identities
In addition to the two bug fixes mentioned up top, there are a whole stack of other things that need to be cleaned up since this code hasn't been touched in 9 years. It may even be the case that it's better to use the current code as a specification and reimplement.
Some of the things which I notice at a glance:
@mekarpeles It's long past time to put in place a simple principle: no new author record should be machine-created without links to an established authority record. When there's neither VIAF nor ISNI found, it is extremely likely that the author name is in error. Let's not further pollute the commons. Aside from just name, there should be at least one date (none conflicting), or else a matching coauthor, work title, or publisher at a minimum. Simply matching on name is not enough.
@LeadSongDog I don't understand the relevance of your comment. The notes from Mar 20 explicitly say no new authors at all.
Yes @tfmorris it’s true that @mekarpeles said that in the “as a first pass” context, but I’m arguing for a more general principle. Getting the urine out of the swimming pool is rather more work than getting it in.
Closing this for now, @hornc is driving MARC and amz imports.
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In addition to the two bug fixes mentioned up top, there are a whole stack of other things that need to be cleaned up since this code hasn't been touched in 9 years. It may even be the case that it's better to use the current code as a specification and reimplement.
Some of the things which I notice at a glance: