Open-shell-menu: Is this Windows 10 1809 ready?

Created on 26 Sep 2018 · 21Comments · Source: Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

So the rumored 1809 release date is October 2nd, so it's just a week away from now, and I'm currently still using official Classic Shell 4.3.1, my understanding is that this version does not work with the new Windows 10, so I'll need to use this fork instead, is everything working okay on the newest Windows 10 1809 build? Where's the download link that people like myself should be downloading, and is there anything I need to do or make note of to carry over my current settings when I update Classic Shell to Open Shell?

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ImSpecial

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Just made the switch, seems everything went smooth, a big shout out to all you guys who are keeping this project alive, I was really dreading the Windows 10 update thinking this might break, but now I'm ready!

ImSpecial on 29 Sep 2018

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Classic Shell 4.3.1 works on 1809 so far.

isshininu on 27 Sep 2018

Is this project still alive?

DrTeeth707 on 28 Sep 2018

Is this project still alive?

Yes, definitely.
Progress depends entirely on the team members' availability. I am currently busy with other projects and other life matters.

XenHat on 28 Sep 2018

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Is this Windows 10 1809 ready?

Probably. We fixed the issue with the Insider Preview build, so there's no reason it wouldn't work.

XenHat on 28 Sep 2018

We are not dedicated full time Open-Shell developers.
We are from community as well just like you, so we need to take care of our lives just like others.

Thanks for asking though, it is still alive, confirmed.
Thanks for answering @XenHat long time ;) Sorry I'm currently busy with other matters too.

coddec on 28 Sep 2018

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No disrespect was intended by my question. It is just when things go quiet, one does begin to wonder.

Cheers

DrT

DrTeeth707 on 28 Sep 2018

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I do feel the same once a while, for other projects etc. etc.
Understood.
That's OK 👍

coddec on 28 Sep 2018

Wait so Classic Shell 4.3.1 works on 1809? And how does one upgrade to this fork if I decide to go that route, do I install over top Classic Shell or do I need to uninstall Classic Shell first?

ImSpecial on 29 Sep 2018

Wait so Classic Shell 4.3.1 works on 1809?

Yes, it seems to be working well.
There was some issue with some RS5 preview builds in the past. But apparently MS did some _fix_ and it works on final RS5 build (17763).

do I install over top Classic Shell or do I need to uninstall Classic Shell first?

It should be possible to install over ClassicShell.

Though there seems to be some issue with _Windows Installer_ that it may not restart _explorer_ correctly (this is not related to OpenShell only). And we don't have any automatic workaround for this currently.

So probably the safer option is to uninstall ClassicShell first. Settings will get migrated either way.

ge0rdi on 29 Sep 2018

Hi,

Could you please confirm that the settings get transferred. The last I heard from one of the devs was that they did not and it was something that they were going to be working on. For that reason along I have not upgraded Classic Shell with Open Shell on my win 8.1 (x64) partition.

Cheers

DrT

DrTeeth707 on 29 Sep 2018

@DrTeeth707
Backup is always good ;)
If you are willing to take a chance.

Backup classic shell settings (use export to xml option)
Uninstall classic shell
Install open-shell
Import xml file to open-shell.

Though, I do not guarantee there's 0 chance of error.
If there's any, it won't kill your PC, the worst case is the open-shell can't work correctly, just reinstall classic-shell then. I haven't heard of any major issues though.
Take extra care if you have many skins installed for classic shell, I did hear that some custom skins can cause issue while using this way to migrate.

Good luck!

Edit: Ignore my comment, refer to @ge0rdi 's comment below.

Latest nightly build does import settings from previous ClassicShell installation.

It was added in this commit.

coddec on 29 Sep 2018

Latest nightly build does import settings from previous ClassicShell installation.

It was added in this commit.

ge0rdi on 29 Sep 2018

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Cheers. Will install that later today after backing up settings.
Many thanks for the info on the nightly.
Cheers
DrT

DrTeeth707 on 29 Sep 2018

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ImSpecial on 29 Sep 2018

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I backed up the settings and installed. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Classic Shell was uninstalled. Had to log out and then in again as the explorer process was borked (no task bar). I had a real struggle to get a shortcut for the settings onto the start menu as "pin to start" does not work. I had to copy the shortcut to the desktop and then drag it onto the start menu. That took as few goes as I have my control panel and admin tools to display as a menu and I had to avoid them or they opened and got in the way.
Cheers
DrT

DrTeeth707 on 30 Sep 2018

"Had to log out and then in again as the explorer process was borked (no task bar)."

I had this too, scared the heck out of me thinking I borked Windows, my background wallpaper was black and no taskbar, I had to hit the power button to restart the PC... luckily it was all good when it rebooted. I'm thinking the uninstall/install process could be worked on to be a bit smoother.

ImSpecial on 1 Oct 2018

No need, just need to make a restore point before installing beta programs. I was not worried about the explorer.exe issue as I have had it before. Explorer and also be restarted from the task manager.

It was the "pin to start" issue that flummoxed me.

Take care

DrT

DrTeeth707 on 1 Oct 2018

Is this still an issue?

XenHat on 28 Nov 2018

@XenHat I updated to 1809 a week ago and haven't found any problems myself. Not sure if you are waiting to hear back from @ImSpecial .

I noticed another problem (Classic Explorer doesn't seem to have a dark theme to match the new dark theme in File Explorer, unless I am just overlooking something). Do you want me or someone to make a Feature Request? You have #98 but it looks like that is for Windows 8, not 10.