Mybinder.org-deploy: Set up a meeting to teach about the testing / deployment logic

[choldgraf]

At our meeting today it seemed like we have a bottlenecked component of mybinder.org - namely a working knowledge of how the testing / travis deployment works in order to ensure that things are what they seem to be.

Could we set up a time for either @yuvipanda or @minrk to explain the testing setup that we've got in the hopes that the rest of the team can contribute to these parts of the deployment?

cc @willingc as she mentioned this was a concern of hers as well!

[yuvipanda]

+1!

[betatim]

One thing I did a while back to get more confident with deploying is to "play" with staging. It was at a time where no one wanted to deploy things so I could poke around and potentially break things to see how things work (or don't). -> I'd be interested in joining

Could we make a set of challenges/exercises to go through that teach you things about our deployment? This could double as docs. WDYT?

[minrk]

Sounds great!

[choldgraf]

Hey all - here's a short doodle poll to see if we can find a time later this week to video chat and have yuvi explain this out. I can also take notes during the meeting which we can turn into more persistent docs.

https://doodle.com/poll/au7e56pg33ncznwa

I chose morning times so that we can accommodate timezones from PST to europe. If no day works, then we can always push back another week.

ping @jupyterhub/binder-team ...I think that pings everybody? we'll see :-)

[choldgraf]

maybe it doesn't ping everybody since nobody has filled out the doodle yet...so, manually pinging @jzf2101 @willingc @betatim @minrk @yuvipanda :-)

[betatim]

I can only kinda make the one date I selected just now. Out ⛷ ⛰'ing all of next week. The date I selected is only kinda Ok for me so maybe count my vote as 0.5 only.

[choldgraf]

@betatim want me to push it to the next week?

[willingc]

Yeah, let's push it out if possible.

[choldgraf]

we have two folks that can't make the original times scheduled, so I've updated the doodle with later times. Take a look again if you already signed up once!

https://doodle.com/poll/au7e56pg33ncznwa

[choldgraf]

@yuvipanda I still don't see a response from you on this doodle, so I'm hesitant to go with a day as you're kind of a bottleneck for this meeting to happen...

in addition, finding a time that works for all folks is proving to be quite difficult. We can either:

• Decide to meet early this week (though perhaps some people's availability has changed?)
• Decide to punt this to a later date
• Decide to try and capture this information with documentation and direct team-members there

What do people think?

[yuvipanda]

How about instead we do a series of 1:1s, since I think different members
of the team are at different levels here? We can capture documentation from
these sessions. I'm happy to be spending the extra time required, since I
think this is extremely important now, and would make scheduling easy too.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Chris Holdgraf [e-mail]
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@yuvipanda https://github.com/yuvipanda I still don't see a response
from you on this doodle, so I'm hesitant to go with a day as you're kind of
a bottleneck for this meeting to happen...

in addition, finding a time that works for all folks is proving to be
quite difficult. We can either:

• Decide to meet early this week (though perhaps some people's
  availability has changed?)
• Decide to punt this to a later date
• Decide to try and capture this information with documentation and
  direct team-members there

What do people think?

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[choldgraf]

could do some kind of "chain-one-on-one" process? E.g. yuvi teaches person A, person A teaches person B, etc?

[yuvipanda]

I'm happy with either :)

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A, person A teaches person B, etc?

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[willingc]

One of the things that I would personally love to do is spend some time getting comfortable with logging, monitoring, and interpreting the grafana dashboard. I would love to come up with a visual flow chart or two like: Outage reported -> check xyz -> check abc -> check qrs -> call in another team member -> spend 15-30 minutes pair troubleshooting -> escalate to Yuvi

[choldgraf]

ah yes! totally agree - I actually just opened #361 which I think is related to your point @willingc

[choldgraf]

Short update: I believe that @mpacer was hoping to go through this w/ yuvi, and then they'd give me a runthrough aftwards. Is that right M?

After that it'd be great if we could do some one-on-ones with folks who want to learn about the testing deployment.

[mpacer]

I asked @yuvipanda, but it sounded like he would prefer not to go through this one-on-one with me, but would rather do it one-on-one with you or with the both of us. But I'll let him explain.

[mpacer]

And agreed, I'd love to learn about the testing deployment, is that equivalent to #361 or should we create a different issue for that?

[willingc]

Would you folks be willing to record the one-on-one with screen sharing so that the rest of us could watch later?

[jzf2101]

Works for me

[choldgraf]

that's a great idea @willingc - would also be happy to do one-on-(one/multiple) in the future too. I like the idea of making group plans for knowledge / skill-sharing

[yuvipanda]

This meeting happened a long time ago, and we have decent SRE docs now.