Monikamoddev: leaning hair

[CharlyIsHungry]

I thought the shadows on the hair of the leaning postition weren't good enough, so I edited it a little.

[Chrissenpai]

So, are you the creator of those sprites? if so i need you to tell you something, can you fix the lines? all of them look to have the same thickness and that makes it look cheap, also make the lines a bit less dark, take a sample of the original monika sprite and you might notice it, and last thing, her left elbow needs a little polishing in her cloth, looks like her arm is cut in half. Thank you.

Edit: btw you did right in editing the shadows and the lights of the hair, that was going to be my main rant complain lol.

[CharlyIsHungry]

I'm not the creator of the sprite making all that without the layers would be very difficult

[CharlyIsHungry]

I still can try to draw another one, but it'll take A LOT of time and it probably be different from the rest of the art... My usual style is very different from ddlc's

[Chrissenpai]

Have you heard of tracing? it's not a sin, just apply your own criteria tho and apply the corrections when needed

[CharlyIsHungry]

I don't want to trace, and I'm bad at it. And there's severals errors on the sprite anyways.

[Chrissenpai]

How can anyone be bad at... never mind, it´s true that are mistakes in the drawing anyway

[CharlyIsHungry]

So, do I make another leaning sprite ? I kinda want to try, but I don't know if it's necessary.

[CharlyIsHungry]

I made sketches with different ouftit.
Do I continue ?

[Chrissenpai]

the second one looks that its fits her, keep up the good work

[ThePotatoGuy]

still bouncing this around dev team, seeing if we prefer it to the current ones or not

[AsuraShun]

great sketches,i really hope I get to see her wearing those

[CharlyIsHungry]

I finished the base with tied hair. I think ? Is there anything wrong ?

[Chrissenpai]

hmmm, the shoulders, wrist, hand and boobs need some tunning, also the hair that covers her right eye needs some polishing

[CharlyIsHungry]

what do you mean ? You're not specific enough ^^'

[Chrissenpai]

first of all, fix the boobs, here's reference

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

and then fix arms, two references

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

her right sholder and left forearm still needs to be fixed

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

close enough, now hands

take notice that you need to take the original Monika's hands sprite style and apply that

[CharlyIsHungry]

what do you mean ? I have to copy paste monika's hands from her original sprite ?

[Chrissenpai]

no, take reference from it

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

the line that is inside the wrist, make it less noticeable or take it out

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

now fix the clavicle, reference it's on the boobs reference

[CharlyIsHungry]

the clavicle is drawn like that in the game

[Chrissenpai]

oh ok then make it as thin as possible like natsuki

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

and what's with the elbow that still has cloth? lol fix it and the last fix is the hair, you can trace that part of her forehead hair

[CharlyIsHungry]

there is no cloth ?? and what's wrong with the hair ?

[Chrissenpai]

ok, her left elbow has the shadow border that is not blurred, and the hair in her right eye, if you compare to the original Monika's right eye's hair, is kind of bulky

[CharlyIsHungry]

Did you saw her bangs ? It would obviously fall if she stood like that.
And I think her face would be like that

[Chrissenpai]

I'm not talking about how the hair will fall, I'm talking that the hair is not dynamic in that part, one line is messing that whole part

[CharlyIsHungry]

which one are you talking about ?

[Chrissenpai]

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

A bit more

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

now this

[CharlyIsHungry]

what's wrong with it ?

[Chrissenpai]

blur it a bit more, it doesn't look like part of her

[CharlyIsHungry]

[Chrissenpai]

that's better, that will be it for today, I'll polish it later in the future, but it's not an eyesore as it was before, hope you've learned something, now if you excuse me I need to not to fall behind with bowsett, later.

[CharlyIsHungry]

Thanks for helping, but... "it's not an eyesore as it was before, hope you've learned something" ? That's so mean and disrectpectful ! Fuck you, asshole.

[Chrissenpai]

don't take it the wrong way, everyone was like that at one point, me included, I might be harsh but I need to point mistakes, otherwise, nobody will learn, I feel sorry for you that you took it the wrong way.

[CharlyIsHungry]

Being harsh is not helpful at all. You just got me in a bad mood. You could've been more polite, it doesn't hurt. It's even making people happy. You should try it for once.

[Chrissenpai]

Trust me, being polite makes people ungrateful, learned the hard way on the internet

[CharlyIsHungry]

thats what you believe

[Chrissenpai]

not believe, experienced, go to the depths of the internet and see it for yourself, people who plagiarize your art, people that tell you what's wrong without knowing bs and last but not least, people that believe that they're the best shit in the world and fails at basic anatomy, look you're a good guy that receives tips and learns from them from what I can see so far, also a little emotional but a good guy at least.

[CharlyIsHungry]

do people act differently when you're being a bitch ? no, I atc like you sometimes and I just get stepped on more. you really should stop

[Chrissenpai]

I think that I've been arguing with elitists for too long and I think that I've spoken an elitist language to someone that is not one, for that I'm sorry, those kinds of harsh conversations are only to be used in those comunities where if you low your guard you're dead, anyway keep up the good job and I'll go back to my business

[jmwall24]

@Chrissenpai please refrain from talking down to people. He took your comment exactly as it was intended and there was no need to say what you said. Even your "apologies" came off as arrogant at best. Helping him polish the art was nice of you, but the stuff afterwards was completely unwarranted.

[Chrissenpai]

I'll consider that, thanks, sorry again

[ThePotatoGuy]

alright, so we've discussed this internally and it appears like the only easily noticable difference is the shinyness of her hair has been toned down. this seems more like a variation than a direct improvement, so we're not going to add this in.

You are welcome to distribute your sprites as drop-in replacements if people find issues with teh shininess/lighting.