Mastodon: Allow XMPP Chat Server for Mastodon

[Maalarius]

XMPP Chat provides a real-time chat solution for users who may wish to have an actual IM session with friends. This would be more streamlined and instant than DMs or Toots.

I have recently setup a working XMPP chat service with my diaspora* server and I'm very very interested to see if it'd be work as integrated with Mastodon as well.

[alxlg]

Do you mean DMs supporting XMPP like Facebook and Google Talk used to do?

[vibhi19]

Gled fork has outh in place and you can login in with same username and password as your mastodon account in xmpp web chat but its not perfect for chat as you have to open a new link and then login to chat most user dont even use it.It would be better something can be added in webui and you can chat from there.

Although another issue i see is with mastodon is version fragmentation if mastodon get this feature how you gonna dm user on other server that are on older version some still use too old version

[vibhi19]

Do you mean DMs supporting XMPP like Facebook and Google Talk used to do?

I think he mean that as of now dm are not encrypted

[alxlg]

@vibhi19 I don't think so, XMPP is a protocol to federate instant messaging platforms that happens to have an extension for end-to-end encryption called OMEMO.

Mastodon direct messages being compatible with XMPP means one can connect to his Mastodon account with a XMPP client and manage private conversations from there.

[trwnh]

@alxlg Adding XMPP to Mastodon would be a separate feature from the existing "direct" addressing option.

IMO there's no real reason for Mastodon to package its own XMPP server on top of the already included servers. What can be done instead is to make integration with an existing XMPP server much easier, e.g. with Prosody or ejabberd or Openfire.

In that regard, there are probably various modules for, say:

• using LDAP, which would allow provisioning accounts that can access both Mastodon and XMPP, at the cost of requiring registrations through the LDAP server instead of through Mastodon,
• or it could be possible to OAuth into XMPP with Mastodon credentials, e.g. by writing a module something like this one for Prosody: https://modules.prosody.im/mod_auth_oauthbearer.html

possibly tangentially related: #3165 #4800 #7958 could provide additional interoperability with other identity provider schemes

[vibhi19]

@vibhi19 I don't think so, XMPP is a protocol to federate instant messaging platforms that happens to have an extension for end-to-end encryption called OMEMO.

Mastodon direct messages being compatible with XMPP means one can connect to his Mastodon account with a XMPP client and manage private conversations from there.

hmm that could work

[vibhi19]

@alxlg Adding XMPP to Mastodon would be a separate feature from the existing "direct" addressing option.

Yes it is different although take inspiration from misskey. misskey has a feature called "Talk" something like that can be implemented.You can talk to user one on one like twitter has and still use "direct" addressing and you can use "direct" addressing as you use on mastodon

[Neustradamus]

Any news?

[rkingett]

What about making it work with Matrix instead?