Marlin: TMC2130 Temp Error instantly

[tomsouris]

Hey guys,

i am helpless. I am using TMC2130 from Watterott. When I start the printer I get instantly a temp error.
What I have:
-TMC2130 X,Y,Z -> for testing only on X ATM
-MKS GEN 1.4
-Marlin 1.1.8/2.0

What I did :
-Check the connections multiple times
-Replaced the TMC2130 against new ones
-Replaced all cables
-Switched the pins on the board
-Used Marlin 1.1.8 and 2.0
-Set the current to -> 200 -> for testing -> same Issue
-turned off/on //#define STOP_ON_ERROR
-turned off/on //#define CURRENT_STEP_DOWN 50 // [mA]

Debug:

SENDING:M122
        X
Enabled     false
Set current 200
RMS current 183
MAX current 258
Run current 5/31
Hold current    2/31
CS actual       31/31
PWM scale       255
vsense      1=.18
stealthChop true
msteps      0
tstep       4294967295
pwm
threshold       0
[mm/s]      -
OT prewarn  true
OT prewarn has
been triggered  true
off time        15
blank time  54
hysteresis
-end        12
-start      8
Stallguard thrs 0
DRVSTATUS   X
stallguard      X
sg_result       1023
fsactive        X
stst        X
olb     X
ola     X
s2gb        X
s2ga        X
otpw        X
ot      X
Driver registers:   X = 0xFF:FF:FF:FF
00:00: X driver overtemperature warning! (200mA)
00:00: X driver overtemperature warning! (200mA)
00:00: X driver overtemperature warning! (200mA)

Config 2.0.zip
1.1.8.zip

Soldering:

Maybe someone can help me. Thanks

[teemuatlut]

Please see this first: http://marlinfw.org/docs/hardware/tmc_drivers.html#troubleshooting

[tomsouris]

Thank you teemuatlut,
I spend 10h of dubbing with this Site and I read a bunch of your comments o on git. But i found no Solution...

[alexxy]

Seems similar to last comments about tmc2660 #8138

[crzcrz]

Have you scraped off the solder mask from the thermal vias before installing the heatsink on the stepstick? Did you try measuring how hot the drivers get? You may need a fan blowing on the driver heatsinks as well.

[teemuatlut]

That's not the issue as the driver is not actually overheating.
The response (0xFFFFFFFF) Marlin got from the driver was invalid and Marlin reacted with the information it had. I think I'll be adding some sanity checking as this seems like a frequent phenomenon.

Have you tried getting the examples working first? Perhaps try with Software SPI.

[crzcrz]

My bad, I did not pay much attention to the log and missed the invalid response.

[teemuatlut]

Always nice to see people trying to help each other as then I don't have to tackle every support request myself.
The invalid response should become much more user friendly in the future when I get some PRs rolling.

[Ludy87]

have you remove all bridge under your tmc's?

[porcinus]

I had similar troubles when I connected TMC spi to hardware spi in my RADDS (sharred with sdcard).
After moving to software spi, no more problems but in my case I was not able to use whatever pins I wanted, for exemple max endstop pins didn't work.
I also had to flip sdi and sdo wiring (maybe a mistake at start)

[mbuc]

I had this issue as well. After using a logic analyzer I found that the chip select pin didn't have any activity on it. After changing it in firmware to use an available pin it worked.

[porcinus]

What version of the drivers do you use Tomsouris?
Driver that come with header solder to use spi don't need any desolder but when you buy the one with all header on the bottom, you need to remove the bridge as Ludy87 say

[tomsouris]

@porcinus I have the "orginal" ones from Watterot. These ones have the correct soldering.

@mbuc @porcinus I will try that! Thanks

[govido]

Hi, I hope you configured the chip select of the driver correctly and put a extra cable for the stepper on the ramps.
Your drawing isn't showing the chip select wires. I had similar issues with spi/cs problems.
I recommend the old breadboard and jumper wire debugging method. If that also fails test software spi (especially if using SD card)

[tomsouris]

@govido Yes the cable is plugged in :P. ATM I am trying to debug it with the "old" method.
I am not sure how to setup the software SPI -> are there any usefull links for that?

[govido]

OSoftware spi is pretty easy in the current bugfix build. You define software spi in advanced conf and in the pins ramps file are the software spi pins pre-configured. Just uncomment and if needed change pin numbers.

Edit:
I just doublechecked:
You can set everything directly in the configuration adv file. Just under the Tmc2130 section set the miso, mosi and clk pins that are set to - 1. If these are not defined there the pins ramps file will get used if I remember correctly. Hope this helps

[tomsouris]

@govido tryed it with SW SPI (standard PINS) dont work. Now i got:
Driver registers: X = 0x00:00:00:00
Thats not better as FFFFFFFF

[tomsouris]

@teemuatlut I unterstand that X = 0x00:00:00:00 and FFFFFFFF are communcation errors, but is there any difference between these erros?

[porcinus]

@tomsouris Does your SD card work? If you, just to test, something you can do is to comment SDSUPPORT in Configuration.h, rewire SPI to pins shown on your diagram.
Don't miss to roll back modification made in configuration adv file about software SPI.
If it still doesn't work, you maybe have a CS pin trouble as Mbuc and Govido suggest

[tomsouris]

@porcinus I will try that quick and send you a report.

[govido]

Some problems I ran into with Tmc2130 myself:
Powering on is important to initialize the drivers correctly, otherwise they won't turn a bit. That means 1. Everything off 2. Printer Voltage on (12 or 24V power supply) then 3. the arduino. That means unplugging it from USB or extra power plug. I made the mistake reflashing the mega several times without turning everything off and on. The tmc need motor voltage first, then the arduino.
Another thing that made me crazy was a false production ramps. The ms1 ms2 and ms3 headers weren't cut on the board traces. That meant even if no jumpers were connected all pins were connected to ground. Because I soldered my spi connections under the ramps board, communication was never possible until I desoldered the board ms1-3 pins and cut the traces.
Maybe a photo could give us a hint what's wrong with your solution.
I am using fystec (1x) and watterott (3x) drivers btw.

[tomsouris]

I dowloaded a fresh/naked version of Marlin 1.1.8

Changes made:

1.

#define MOTHERBOARD BOARD_MKS_13

2.

//#define SDSUPPORT

3.

#define HAVE_TMC2130

#if ENABLED(HAVE_TMC2130) || ENABLED(HAVE_TMC2208)

  // CHOOSE YOUR MOTORS HERE, THIS IS MANDATORY
  #define X_IS_TMC2130
  //#define X2_IS_TMC2130
  #define Y_IS_TMC2130
  //#define Y2_IS_TMC2130
  #define Z_IS_TMC2130

  #define MONITOR_DRIVER_STATUS

  #if ENABLED(MONITOR_DRIVER_STATUS)
    //#define CURRENT_STEP_DOWN     50  // [mA]
    #define REPORT_CURRENT_CHANGE
    //#define STOP_ON_ERROR
  #endif

4.

#define TMC_DEBUG

The rest is standard -> no PINS changed
No LCD configured or PlugIn

For better pictured I unplugged everything.

[Ludy87]

really stupid without heat sink! 😂😂

[tomsouris]

for what should I put a heatsink on the drivers when they dont work? They dont even get warm because they dont work. What a brilliant usefull comment.

[MikeLud]

@tomsouris

Below is how I have my MKS Gen L wired up, it should work for your board, make sure you make the change in note 2
MKS_Gen-L_TMC2130_SPI_Sensor-less_Homing_Wiring_Diagram (1).pdf

[tomsouris]

Okay I will give that a try.

[teemuatlut]

https://github.com/teemuatlut/TMC2130Stepper/issues/28
Perhaps that discussion can be of help.
I don't have any MKS boards myself.

[MikeLud]

@tomsouris
I am wondering how you made out, did you resolve your issues?

[mbuc]

@MikeLud I believe I have mine wired in the exact same way (though on a RAMPS 1.4) and it's working well.

[tomsouris]

I had 2 days of very intense testing. Nothing worked. I now ordered a new MKS. I will test this tomorrow and let you know

[tomsouris]

Okay, problem solved. It was the Board. I ordered the exact same one, same configuration now it is working.
Thanks to all and sorry.

[daverdfw]

Okay, problem solved. It was the Board. I ordered the exact same one, same configuration now it is working.
Thanks to all and sorry.

I am having the exact same issues! I just ordered a replacement MKS Gen L board. Could only ever get SW SPI to work. No HW using the FYSTEC and Watterott boards.

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