Keepassxc: Expand Donate page with Open Collective

[keunes]

Hello,
I am preparing a round of donations to various FOSS projects. KeePassXC is on the list. It's the first time I'm doing this, and I think I'll mostly use Open Collective. I found KeePassXC there as a project also, and it seems active. However, I'm not sure if it is indeed the right project - it's not listed anywhere on the project website's Donate page.

So, my questions:

• Can I safely use the aforementioned Open Collective page? And/or is another method really preferred?
• Should the Donate page be update to mention Open Collective?

[droidmonkey]

Please do not use open collective. I hate it and have never received a dime from it. If you use Patreon the donations go to me, if you use PayPal they go to @phoerious. LibrePay is alright but very quirky.

[phoerious]

Your build Agent license acquisition seems to have been approved.

[droidmonkey]

Approved but not paid out.

[phoerious]

Gracious. Sounds tedious.

[keunes]

have never received a dime from it

Is that an issue with the Open Collective platform or with the 'fiscal host' Open Source Collective 501(c)(6)? (though I'm realising only now the two are probably linked)

If you use Patreon the donations go to me, if you use PayPal they go to @phoerious.

Cool, thanks. And then we have GitHub's Sponsor option - would that be ok for you? I don't have Patreon.

[droidmonkey]

GitHub Sponsors will match any donation you give, which is awesome!

I blame Open Collective for having a rather confusing platform. I submitted an invoice, then I had to approve my own invoice, then the Open Source Collective seems to have approved it as well (although it does not explicitly say that), then ??? profit?

That last part has not led to anything, I imagined that it would drain m available balance to $0 then give me a stipend based on the monthly donors until the invoice was fully paid.

Since we are all adults here and people have decided to be very generous towards us as lead developers, I just prefer to receive cash and then decide where to spend it that betters the project as a whole. That can be towards bounty's, CI agents, trademark costs, signing certificates, web services, contracted work, computing power, etc. etc. Open Collective's process forces you to spend time/money in advance then hope that they will reimburse you for it based on your monthly contributions. It does not let you save up to make a large expenditure or operate on credit. Its actually very stupid model unless you have a few hundred dollars coming in a month.

[keunes]

Good to know, thanks!

Open Collective's process forces you to spend time/money in advance then hope that they will reimburse you for it based on your monthly contributions. It does not let you save up to make a large expenditure or operate on credit. Its actually very stupid model unless you have a few hundred dollars coming in a month.

Ok, that is really different from the impression you get as a regular user/potential donor. It seems to me that recurring donations add up to the balance, and that you can claim costs (e.g. for specific dev work, web services - so not depending on your contributions), which have to be approved by the organisation (which is also you, in this case), and which are paid out on Thursdays. If the costs you claimed have been approved but not paid for over a week you should probably contact them to see what's going on. Seems to work for for example Mastodon - maybe they might be of help too.

But yeah, it does work based on a reimbursement model, so first costs and then the compensation (but then again, that's how it works often for companies also). On the other hand, as a supporter I like very much the transparency.

Anyway, some love will come to you through GitHub then if all goes well.

[droidmonkey]

Actually you are correct, I was wrong. Monthly contributions are added to the pot, we just never had any recurring ones (until recently) and I assumed there wasn't a pot. We currently have ~$200 in the pot, which is actually with the Open Source Collective (stored there). So yes, technically you can give through OpenCollective and it will work for us and I could technically submit an invoice for "my time" working on PR's or whatever. Or you can skip that silly song and dance and just donate directly to me or other lead devs. Thank you!!!

[keunes]

Ok, I just actually checked GitHub and seems it _also_ isn't possible to do one-off donations :/ I could do the one through PayPal and the other through Open Collective, but I'll just do it in the latter for the both of you - sorry!

[rosmo]

Just dropping a note that the PayPal donation link is broken on the website :)

[droidmonkey]

Works just fine for me

[rosmo]

Strange, now it works for me as well. Was giving a "this organization's page is broken" or something similar.