Karabiner-elements: grave_accent_and_tilde and non_us_backslash are switched

[runar-rkmedia]

I ran into a weird issue, as I was adding a left_control to what should be the grave_accent_and_tilde, but was surprised when the rule applied to non_us_backslash-key instead.

In the event-viewer, it still shows the correct keys, but it is only the rule that is switched.

    {
      "description": "Holding grave_accent_and_tilde produces left_control",
      "manipulators": [
        {
          "type": "basic",
          "from": {
            "key_code": "grave_accent_and_tilde",
            "modifiers": {
              "optional": [
                "any"
              ]
            }
          },
          "to": [
            {
              "key_code": "left_control"
            }
          ],
          "to_if_alone": [
            {
              "key_code": "grave_accent_and_tilde"
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },

To sum up, in the eventviewer, and any other program, pressing grave_accent_and_tilde and non_us_backslash shows up correctly. However, the rule above is applied to non_us_backslash. Even the to_if_alone produces non_us_backslash.

Is this an issue on my end? I have tried removing all other rules in case there was some interference, but the result is the same.

I am running macOS Sierra, with Karabiner-Elements 0.91.12

[carrigmore]

@runartrollet I have same issue here, I do need add key mapping rule to make them work correctly. In the eventviewer it is fine but actual they are reverted. Have to use setting to change these 2 keys.

[expiredemulsion]

I have the same problem.
Even if I uncheck all keyboards in the preferences and connect a Mac keyboard the two keys are remapped.

It's an annoyance when you have to correct something which already was correct before installing KE.

[expiredemulsion]

Ok. I've found the reason why this only happens some people and only some keyboards.

If you connect a new keyboard, launch K-E and set it up everything will work out ok.

But macOS also launches Keyboard Assistent as it detects a previous unknown keyboard.
If you simply close the Assistant and dont bother about it everything will work out ok.

But if you follow through with the Assistant and select that keyboards layout (ISO for me) - grave_accent_and_tilde and non_us_backslash will get switched!

So K-E and Apple seems to interfere with each other on this!

If you want to redo the process and get all back to what it was - working - you can delete the plist and reboot.

sudo rm /Library/Preferences/com.apple.keyboardtype.plist

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[martinbarlow]

I also ran into this. I was using the vanilla complex "PC-Style German Alt Gr (Backslash, @, pipe, tilde, brackets)" It all worked perfect, except for the vertical bar from grave_accent_and_tilde

"from": { "key_code": "grave_accent_and_tilde", "modifiers": { "mandatory": [ "right_option" ], "optional": [ "any" ] } }, "to": [ { "key_code": "7", "modifiers": [ "left_option" ] } ], "type": "basic"

I then mapped the simple non_us_backslash to grave_accent_and_tilde and it started to work.

Seems a bug somewhere

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[lionel-]

@petter-'s solution worked for me.

For some reason macOS started to pop up the keyboard assistant even though I'm using the builtin keyboard of my laptop. If I select a layout Karabiner swaps grave_accent_and_tilde and non_us_backslash.

[FerretDave]

This has caused me some confusion too, would be nice if the developer took a look at this to avoid it confusing other users.

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