Karabiner-elements: Sticky keys without lock

[CSRaghunandan]

I really miss this feature from karabiner. When will this feature come to karabiner elements?
Also, is there any other way for me to use sticky keys without lock in macOS Sierra

[stifynsemons]

+1

Sticky keys help alleviate hand strain, and I used them heavily in Karabiner.

[snarfed]

i'm the one who added this to the original karabiner in tekezo/Karabiner#118, via its exposed sticky keys virtual key codes, e.g. VK_STICKY_COMMAND_L. here's the full list.

@tekezo mentioned in https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/issues/551#issuecomment-272185300 that elements already handles the virtual keyboard so that it can explicitly support mac os x's sticky modifier keys. given that, we may just need VK_STICKY_* to be exposed in simple_modifications.json? not sure.

this is the only thing keeping me from switching to elements, btw. it's come a long way since i looked at it. congrats on the stable release, all!

[paulistoan]

+1, would love to have this feature

[jubilatious1]

+1, would love to have this feature also.

[vschumaker]

+1

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[snarfed]

still valid, please keep.

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[CSRaghunandan]

I still hope somebody takes over this task
ssshh bot!

[stembrain]

ive been googling for days to find out if KE can do sticky modifier keys. it really would help with wrist strain. please keep this alive :)

[paulistoan]

You might want to try a hardware approach such as a TMK usb to usb keyboard
adapter: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0 I haven't tried this
myself but it looks like it might do what you want.

Paul

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:49 AM David Mann [e-mail]
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ive been googling for days to find out if KE can do sticky modifier keys.
it really would help with wrist strain. please keep this alive :)

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[stembrain]

I see that OS X has its own built in sticky modifier keys. I’m going to mess with those, they do exactly what I wanted. Thank you Paul!

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You might want to try a hardware approach such as a TMK usb to usb keyboard
adapter: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0 I haven't tried this
myself but it looks like it might do what you want.

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it really would help with wrist strain. please keep this alive :)

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[snarfed]

@stembrain true, but OS X's built in feature also has a "lock" feature that i at least often enable unintentionally. more background in https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/13708/disabling-the-keep-pressed-function-of-os-x-sticky-keys . this issue is to port the original karabiner sticky keys feature that didn't have that locking.

[stembrain]

Ah right I see that now that I used OS X sticky keys for a day. The way it has a one-shot (as ergodox ez keyboard document calls it) and a lock mode is a bit of a bother.

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@stembrain true, but OS X's built in feature also has a "lock" feature that i at least often enable unintentionally. more background in https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/13708/disabling-the-keep-pressed-function-of-os-x-sticky-keys . this issue is to port the original karabiner sticky keys feature that didn't have that locking.

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[stembrain]

The other weirdness with the OS X one is that shift becomes locked differently than the other modifiers. It takes one less press!

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@stembrain true, but OS X's built in feature also has a "lock" feature that i at least often enable unintentionally. more background in https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/13708/disabling-the-keep-pressed-function-of-os-x-sticky-keys . this issue is to port the original karabiner sticky keys feature that didn't have that locking.

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[jubilatious1]

Still hoping in Karabiner Elements someone can implement sticky modifier keys, on a per key basis.
(OSX only does it keyboard-wide, not key-by-key).

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[CSRaghunandan]

Please keep. Still hoping someone can work on this :)

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[jubilatious1]

shhh, bot!

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[jubilatious1]

Please keep active.

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[jubilatious1]

Please keep active.

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[jubilatious1]

Please keep active.

[knoajp]

I'm still keeping original Karabiner.
I'm very thirsty for this feature. Or are there anyone has requested for Apple to support "without lock"?

[shartf]

Apple has other problems with sticky keys - their unlock delay is so bad, you get 2-3 capital letters from one shift key with sticky keys with a reasonable typing speed. I also hope that this feature will be implemented, since it is very comfortable, if done properly.

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[jubilatious1]

Please keep active.

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[mgoszcz2]

I would still absolutely love this feature

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[mgoszcz2]

Shush!

[stephanoparaskeva]

Any updates?

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[knoajp]

I wonder this feature is actually possible on Karabiner-Elements or not.
If possible, why not!! (yes it needs developing resource...)

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[jubilatious1]

Please keep active!

[knoajp]

Today I called Apple Japan to request to support this feature on macOS officially.

This is rather minor preference and the lock feature takes time for explaining to a staff who doesn't know it. At the first, the staff also confused, but she has comprehended on my second explaining.

She said the only thing we can is to send feedbacks to Apple.

Folks, let's send our earnest requests to Apple!!

📞 Telephone:
https://support.apple.com/HT201232
📝 Text Form:
https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html

[knoajp]

I also tweeted to Apple and @tekezo.

ja:
https://twitter.com/kantankikaku/status/1311899466870390786
en:
https://twitter.com/kantankikaku/status/1311900693679140871

[tekezo]

I added this feature to my tasks.
https://github.com/pqrs-org/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/TASKS.md

[mgoszcz2]

I opened a radar about it in January (FB7548753)

[knoajp]

I had kept my Mac with El Capitan for a long time to use the predecessor app Karabiner, but jumped to Mojave the day before yesterday.

So I didn't understand what @shartf said about, but now I do.
https://github.com/pqrs-org/Karabiner-Elements/issues/477#issuecomment-541582317

IT doesn't occur on EL CApitan even if I switch on the official STicky KEys preference of OS X. ANd I found by google that it has begun on SIerra.

THen I again called APple JApan to report this bug today. MAy it be fixed as soon as possible... or KArabiner-ELements support it. ;-)

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[nkgm]

I'm aware the original title says "without lock" but I really miss the good old VK_LOCK_MODIFIER_FORCE_ON/OFF from Karabiner Classic, which I constantly find myself working around in KE. Seeing that @tekezo will be spending time on this feature in the near future, maybe it's a good time to squeeze in lock functionality as well?