Submitting author: @htjb (Harry Bevins)
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Version: 1.2.0
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- 10.1038/nature25792 is OK
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Dear @htjb,
Thank you for producing a useful and well-documented software package maxsmooth
. I could install and run it with no trouble at all.
Overall it is good and I expect it will not be too much work to fix up such small comments as I have. I will put these here rather than in separate Issues but happy to break any that you think are substantive into Issues.
My first high-level comment is that https://maxsmooth.readthedocs.io is clearer than the paper itself and clarifies some points that I think should be explicitly addressed in the paper. Perhaps overall using some of the text and examples from the readthedocs would help illustrate some points.
About the paper:
About the code/repo:
About the documentation:
maxsmooth
Theory and Algorithm, it would be helpful to define the terms in the equation explicitly in this section.I hope that helps! Neat piece of code.
All the best,
Ben
I should add, going back over the checklist - I'm happy to check it off, but it wouldn't hurt to add more description and citation to the State of the Field in the paper.
Dear @benjaminpope,
Thank you for the detailed comments and feedback they are very helpful! I am glad you found the software easy to install and use.
Just as an update, I am currently working my way through your comments and making relevant changes to the paper, docs and repo. I am tracking my changes so that I can make you aware of what I have done and I am aiming to get this sorted ASAP. I will let you know when it is ready for another look.
I have written an extension to one of the functions and just wanted to check that if I push this as version 1.2.0 that will not derail the review process? I of course will update the version number in the paper.
Again thank you for the comments,
Harry
I don't think this would be a problem!
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Thank you for the detailed comments and feedback they are very helpful! I
am glad you found the software easy to install and use.Just as an update, I am currently working my way through your comments and
making relevant changes to the paper, docs and repo. I am tracking my
changes so that I can make you aware of what I have done and I am aiming to
get this sorted ASAP. I will let you know when it is ready for another look.I have written an extension to one of the functions and just wanted to
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@htjb: Don't worry about version numbers re: this review at this point, just handle them however you normally would. I'll walk you through synchronizing the versions at the end.
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to quickly give an apology for my radio silence thus far. I've just returned from annual leave and will be working my way through my review hopefully by the end of this week.
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Hi @htjb,
This is a really nice, and very useful, package.
First, I'll begin by saying that I agree with all of the feedback already provided by @benjaminpope. I also had no issues installing and using the package and have only minor feedback.
I have little to add here beyond @benjaminpope's comments. The paper is well written, concise and covers all of the bases.
param_plotter
output. In particular, the valid and invalid regions. Perhaps some extra discussion here would be worth while (as also noted by @benjaminpope).param_plotter
output, I notice that the RMS is given in Kelvin. I guess that might not always be the case for all users. :)Again - I think this is a really nice piece of work and can imagine it getting a lot of use in the 21cm community as well as others where this technique would be applicable.
Cheers,
Simon
Hi @smutch ,
Thank you for the useful comments and feedback. I am glad you were also able to install and use the software.
I have just come back to work after a week off and I am going to continue to work through your comments and @benjaminpope 's also in the comming week.
I am hoping to get back to you with updates by Friday.
Thanks again,
Harry
Dear @benjaminpope, @smutch,
Thanks again for the comments and feedback. I have acted on hopefully all of these now and updated the repository and paper.
Below are some responses to your comments and what I have changed. I have tried to make this as readable as possible, please let me know if something is not clear.
-I have added a note about the packages that will be installed when installing from source and using the pip install. As far as I am aware all of the requirements apart from those pertaining to documentation and testing will be installed alongside maxsmooth.
Please let me know if I have missed anything or if there are further comments. As an aside I have released version 1.2.0 and updated the pypi package and repo accordingly. The major difference is an extension to the functionality of the basis_test() function to allow the user to explore other types of DCFs not just MSFs for their fitting problem. I have updated the tests accordingly.
Thanks and looking forward to hearing back,
Harry
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Dear @htjb,
Thanks for the update. I think this is great and am happy to sign off subject to a couple of pretty trivial questions.
I am still a bit confused as to why it has to be monotonic functions. You say you can relax the constraint on the first derivative, so it can cross zero, which I think should allow it to not be monotonic? But you say this just allows for points of inflection. This is just something I'm stuck on conceptually, but maybe it could be good to include a couple of lines of text on page 2 of the paper about this.
The notebooks are great. One thing that bothers me about the examples is... why does it subtract some of the signal in Figure 1? If you choose different parameters can you get different behaviour? It just seems odd to illustrate it with an example where maybe it didn't work as well as in other cases? Anyway otherwise this is fine.
I'm happy with everything otherwise. Well done!
All the best,
Ben
Dear @benjaminpope,
Thank you. There are some responses to your questions below.
Hope that helps!
Thanks,
Harry
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Hi Harry,
This is great, ok. But I guess I got confused by some of the wording and by
trying to run my code (without success) on data with a turn-over - it
failed whenever there was a significant maximum/minimum in the data. I am
sure this is because I ran it incorrectly, but I think it would be nice if
you explicitly stated how to deal with a turning point.
I am sure this is my own misreading of some notes somewhere and apologize
for that.
I also see your second point and am satisfied with the explanation. Happy
to sign off on this review.
All the best,
Ben
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Thank you. There are some responses to your questions below.
- It doesn't need to be monotonic. By default the condition is relaxed
on the first derivative and only m>=2 are constrained which allows for a
turning point in the data but no inflection points. To allow for inflection
points we have to relax the condition on the second derivative as well by
changing the 'constraints' keyword argument to 3. I have attached an
example figure in which the data has a turning point and we are fitting
with a DCF that is constrained with m>=2. I can provide the code for this
if you would like to have a look? I hope this clears this point up, please
let me know if not. Apologies for any confusion!
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non-smooth signals. The recovered signal is actually a 'smooth baseline
subtracted' version (I have added this phrase to the paper). Essentially
because we are just fitting with a foreground modelled as a DCF that
foreground gets distorted by the presence of the signal. The distortion in
this case is that the foreground model is 'dragged down' to lower
temperatures around 100MHz so that when it is subtracted from the data we
actually get a lower amplitude signal. (The distortion is less severe for
the README example because the noise is gaussian distributed around 0 so
the residuals look better.) If this were a real 21-cm data set then this
type of fit would be your initial investigation of the data set. Then
because there is evidence of the signal in the residuals you would go onto
fit with a signal model and DCF which would result in a better
representation of both the foreground and the signal in the data. The final
column top row in figure 9 of https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.14970.pdf
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Hi @benjaminpope,
Thank you. No problem I think it is a bit confusing when you first encounter it and my explanation in places may have been lacking. I will add an example to the docs and notebooks about dealing with turning points and inflection points in data sets which hopefully should make it clearer for first time users.
Thank you for all your comments and feedback!
Best,
Harry
Hi @htjb,
Thanks, great. Subject to that, I sign off - congratulations on a good paper.
All the best,
Ben
Hi @benjaminpope,
I have added that example. Thank you very much again!
Harry
:wave: @smutch: Can you take another look at this when you get a chance to see if your remaining concerns have been addressed or if you have other suggestions? Thanks!
Hi @htjb,
Sorry for the delayed reply (again). I had to take last minute leave last week...
I'm very happy with the changes and improvements. I think it's looking great!
I do have one minor suggestion below but, regardless of this, I am very happy to sign-off on the review:
Since the plotting functions save to a PDF and do not return the underlying matplotlib figure object, the plots do not appear in the example notebooks. You could add something like the following in the notebooks to allow users to see the plots without you having to modify the code:
from IPython.display import IFrame
IFrame("./examples/chi_distribution.pdf", width=800, height=600)
Congrats on a nice package @htjb!
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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):
OK DOIs
- 10.1016/j.physrep.2006.08.002 is OK
- 10.1016/j.physrep.2016.06.006 is OK
- 10.1088/0034-4885/75/8/086901 is OK
- 10.1086/146653 is OK
- 10.1086/106661 is OK
- 10.1093/mnras/stx2065 is OK
- 10.1109/ICEAA.2019.8879199 is OK
- 10.1007/s10686-018-9584-3 is OK
- 10.1093/mnras/sty1244 is OK
- 10.1142/S2251171719500041 is OK
- 10.1038/nature25792 is OK
- 10.3847/1538-4357/aa69bd is OK
- 10.3847/1538-4357/ab2879 is OK
- 10.1021/jp970984n is OK
- 10.1093/comjnl/7.4.308 is OK
MISSING DOIs
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INVALID DOIs
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@smutch & @benjaminpope: Thanks for your reviews!! I really appreciate your contributions and I believe that your suggestions have helped improve the clarity and impact of the paper and documentation.
@htjb: It looks like we're in good shape here. The only change I would request for the paper is that in the statement of need it says "supports version >=3 [of Python]", but only versions 3.6 and above are tested. I think it would be better to be more specific about the version requirements. After making that change, can you do the following steps and report back here:
Let me know when you've gone through this and we can proceed with acceptance!
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@smutch Thank you for your comments again. I have edited the notebooks so that they include the missing plots.
@dfm I have updated the paper with the appropriate supported python version >=3.6 and proof read through the manuscript. I made one minor change to the wording of one sentence.
The version numbering should be at 1.2.0 on the repository, documentation ect now.
I have also uploaded to Zenodo and the corresponding DOI is 10.5281/zenodo.4059338. Let me know if any of the metadata on this archive needs changing.
Thanks,
Harry
@htjb: Thanks! Can you please update the Zenodo metadata to have your full name as author instead of just your GitHub username?
@whedon set 1.2.0 as version
OK. 1.2.0 is the version.
@whedon set 10.5281/zenodo.4059338 as archive
OK. 10.5281/zenodo.4059338 is the archive.
@dfm Thanks for highlighting this I have changed the author on Zenodo to my full name.
Great! I'll pass this off to the editors in chief for final processing.
@htjb: Congrats and thanks for your submission!
@smutch, @benjaminpope: Thanks again for your reviews!
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- 10.1016/j.physrep.2006.08.002 is OK
- 10.1016/j.physrep.2016.06.006 is OK
- 10.1088/0034-4885/75/8/086901 is OK
- 10.1086/146653 is OK
- 10.1086/106661 is OK
- 10.1093/mnras/stx2065 is OK
- 10.1109/ICEAA.2019.8879199 is OK
- 10.1007/s10686-018-9584-3 is OK
- 10.1093/mnras/sty1244 is OK
- 10.1142/S2251171719500041 is OK
- 10.1038/nature25792 is OK
- 10.3847/1538-4357/aa69bd is OK
- 10.3847/1538-4357/ab2879 is OK
- 10.1021/jp970984n is OK
- 10.1093/comjnl/7.4.308 is OK
MISSING DOIs
- None
INVALID DOIs
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@dfm, @smutch, @benjaminpope Thank you all for all your help and useful comments!
No worries - congratulations on the acceptance.
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@dfm thanks for editing this work. Perhaps you missed it but the ZENODO archive title does not match the paper, I'll flag this with the author but for future reference try to check this before recommending acceptance.
@htjb I'll process this work for acceptance in JOSS. Below are some last minor points to work on:
[x] Please edit the ZENODO archive metadata so that the title there matches that of the paper
[x] Please write out UK as United Kingdom in your affiliation.
[x] This work is about to be processed for acceptance in JOSS. We recommend that you proofread the paper once more yourself. In particular, ensure the author names and affiliations are correct.
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@Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman Really? It looked (and looks) like it does to me!
@dfm yes, it is a minor difference but the archive says: htjb/maxsmooth: maxsmooth: Derivative Constrained Function Fitting
, while the paper says: maxsmooth: Derivative Constrained Function Fitting
, so they need to remove htjb/
@Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman: you're right! I must have interpolated over the repo name every time I looked at it. Sorry!
@Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman Thanks for highlighting the last few points. I have corrected the title on the Zenodo archive, apologies for the error! I have also changed UK to United Kingdom and proof read back through the paper one last time. I have corrected one spelling mistake that I had missed and updated the repo. I am happy for it to go ahead now.
Thanks again,
Harry
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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):
OK DOIs
- 10.1016/j.physrep.2006.08.002 is OK
- 10.1016/j.physrep.2016.06.006 is OK
- 10.1088/0034-4885/75/8/086901 is OK
- 10.1086/146653 is OK
- 10.1086/106661 is OK
- 10.1093/mnras/stx2065 is OK
- 10.1109/ICEAA.2019.8879199 is OK
- 10.1007/s10686-018-9584-3 is OK
- 10.1093/mnras/sty1244 is OK
- 10.1142/S2251171719500041 is OK
- 10.1038/nature25792 is OK
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Congratulations @htjb! Also thank you @smutch, @benjaminpope for reviewing this work and to @dfm for editing it. :tada:
@Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman Thank you very much! And thanks again @dfm, @smutch and @benjaminpope for all your help, the comments were very appreciated!
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Congratulations @htjb! Also thank you @smutch, @benjaminpope for reviewing this work and to @dfm for editing it. :tada: