Submitting author: @halirutan (Patrick Scheibe)
Repository: https://github.com/RuleBasedIntegration/JOSS-Publication
Version: 4.16.0.4
Editor: @danielskatz
Reviewer: @acolum, @rljacobson
Archive: 10.5281/zenodo.2234522
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:wave: @acolum and @rljacobson - please go ahead and get started. Read the opening comment in this issue carefully, and also take a look at the JOSS reviewer guidance. In brief, you perform your review and check the boxes above when you are satisfied with an item, and open issues in the [paper repository]. (https://github.com/RuleBasedIntegration/JOSS-Publication) or code repository as needed.
Note that JOSS normally assumes the paper is in the same repository as the code, so the repository link in the compiled paper (see the comment above, or a later one if changes are made and the paper is recompiled) will have to be changed by the JOSS editors manually before final acceptance.
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@halirutan @danielskatz Just to clarify, my understanding is that the authors are intending to include in their submission the entire Rubi ecosystem, at least as it relates to its Mathematica implementation, which would include all of the following:
Is this correct?
If this submission is only a subset of the items I list above, I strongly recommend that the authors revise the submission to include (at least) everything in that list, as those items are all quite intertwined and would make a much more substantial contribution and impact to the field if the submission successfully passes review.
@rljacobson You are correct. I had a bit of a struggle while preparing the manuscript, as JOSS seems to be tailored to the "one repository" software written in an open language like python. Rubi is a bit different because the general idea of putting together a large set of integration rules that allow for symbolic integration is at least as important as its implementation. So yes, the Rubi ecosystem consists of the
Every little part of this is MIT-licenced and freely available. For the JOSS publication, we wanted to present the Mathematica implementation as it is a real program like the other publications on JOSS.
Since we linked in its README.md to the Rubi website, it should be sufficient for the interested reader to get all the information.
Nevertheless, in the summary manuscript, we tried to present the whole idea and explain important parts of the interconnections. Therefore, the outline reads as
I strongly recommend that the authors revise the submission to include (at least) everything in that list
In the manuscript, we have already included references to 1., 2., and 3. The "Integration Rules" are part of the Rubi Mathematica package and they are explicitly mentioned in the Repository structure part of the README. The "catalog of integration rules" you mentioned in 4. is in my option not necessary here, because we can assume that a user reading this manuscript has Mathematica installed and is better off just opening the notebooks.
Would you agree or did I misunderstood your comment?
@danielskatz Is it possible to switch to numbers for referencing like this [1]? We cite several of our repositories and the website and referencing by (The Rubi Organization, 2018d) doesn't look so good. Also, is it possible to adjust the size and position of the inserted image?
@halirutan I read your submitted paper just as you describe it, so from my perspective I do not think a revision of the paper is necessary with respect to communicating scope. But as you say, the assumption in the JOSS boilerplate language of a single repository structure does not quite fit this particular application, so I want to make sure we are all on the same page.
@danielskatz A quality review of this software may take longer than is typical for JOSS. First, this software project is quite large. Second, if the functionality and performance claims of this project are verified, it would represent a significant advance in the current state of the art of symbolic computer algebra. The potential impact of this technology recommends a careful peer review, especially with respect to the items _Functionality, Performance_, and _Automated Tests_ of the Review Checklist. These items are also the largest components of this project. I will do my best to be expedient, but I want to communicate to you the size of the review task up front. To be clear, these comments should not be interpreted as a prejudgment of the submission, nor are they intended to in any way disparage the submitting authors, all of whom are well known and respected in their respective subfields for the quality of their work.
π @arfon - can you answer these questions about the paper compilation?
Is it possible to switch to numbers for referencing like this [1]? We cite several of our repositories and the website and referencing by (The Rubi Organization, 2018d) doesn't look so good. Also, is it possible to adjust the size and position of the inserted image?
Is it possible to switch to numbers for referencing like this [1]? We cite several of our repositories and the website and referencing by (The Rubi Organization, 2018d) doesn't look so good. Also, is it possible to adjust the size and position of the inserted image?
Some customization is possible, see the docs here: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#citations . That said, I'm pretty sure it's not possible to render citations like this.
If a footnote would suffice in some places then you can use them instead: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#footnotes
@rljacobson - If your review takes a significant amount of time, that's fine, as long as you are willing to do so.
Note that reviewing _Performance_ and _Automated Tests_ can be a review of Are there such things and Do they do what they claim, rather than Are they 100% complete, though you are of course able to suggest improvements. In some sense, you have to balance the amount of code review and spot checks that you do that increase your understanding of the software and its claims with the time you can spend on this.
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@arfon Locally, it is easily possible to make references appear as [1] simply by setting a different citation style. This can be done inside the header of paper.md with e.g.
csl: transactions-on-mathematical-software.csl
I included the style file in the repo and, while this works locally with a similar call to pandoc that @whedon uses
pandoc -o test.pdf --filter pandoc-citeproc paper.md
it doesn't work here. I'm not sure why. I looked over the whedon code and it seems you clone the repo to a tmp directory and build it. Maybe something with the latex-template you are using interferes.
@arfon Locally, it is easily possible to make references appear as [1] simply by setting a different citation style. This can be done inside the header of paper.md with e.g.
Hi @halirutan - I'm afraid we don't offer customizations like this sorry. I realize it's theoretically possible, however, we want to stick to a single citation style.
π @acolum & @rljacobson - it looks like both reviews are making progress. I'm just checking in to see if either of you need anything. If you're just working through this, great, but if you are stuck somehow, please let me know.
@arfon
I'm afraid we don't offer customizations like this sorry.
No problem at all. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. I will wait what the reviewers think. Maybe I'm converting the "repository citations" to footnotes with links if this is more appropriate. Thanks for looking into this.
Hi @acolum & @rljacobson - it looks like you both are working on your reviews - I'm just checking in to make sure everything is going ok - let me know if it's not.
I'm just checking in to make sure everything is going ok - let me know if it's not.
Yep, everything is going well. Thanks!
π @acolum & @rljacobson - I'm just checking in on your reviews again...
Doing ok, @danielskatz. Thanks for checking in.
@danielskatz I have completed my review.
The only open issue relating to the reviewers' checklist is a recommendation to clarify the first steps for new contributors. However, if you read the details of the issue, you will see that the submission has in many ways substantially met that guideline. It is my opinion that this issue should not prevent the paper's publication as it is, which publication I heartily recommend.
The other "issues" that remain open are only suggestions or what amount to feature requestsβthey do not reflect my evaluation in my role as reviewer of the paper's fitness for publication.
@halirutan @danielskatz I apologize for the long review period. It took some time to substantially confirm the functionality and performance claims of the software. In the words of Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." The software claims to significantly outperform the state of the art in symbolic integration. I have verified this claim on the project's test suite as well as my own suite of tests. It is quite remarkable.
Thanks very much @rljacobson !
@danielskatz I've also completed my review and am happy to recommend this for publication.
Thanks too @acolum !!
@halirutan - you might want to respond to some of @rljacobson's recommendations before we publish, perhaps at least the contributor guidelines one. Please do so, and when you are ready to publish, make an up to date repository in figshare or zenodo or similar, and post the DOI here in a comment.
Let me thank both reviewers for taking their time to look over Rubi.
To give a short summary of @rljacobson suggestions:
With these changes, I created a new release version 4.16.0.5 and an used Zenodo to get a DOI:
That should be all. Finally, thank you @danielskatz for guiding us along the way.
thanks @halirutan and sorry for the delay in getting to this - I missed the notification...
@whedon set 10.5281/zenodo.2234522 as archive
OK. 10.5281/zenodo.2234522 is the archive.
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π @arfon - it looks like something didn't work here - the pdf in the PR looks good, but it doesn't seem to be in http://joss.theoj.org/papers/10.21105/joss.01073 correctly. https://www.theoj.org/joss-papers/joss.01073/10.21105.joss.01073.pdf gives a 404 error.
@danielskatz - those links seem to work for me now. Perhaps GitHub was being a little slow?
maybe - thanks
@halirutan - your paper is now accepted into JOSS β‘οΈππ₯
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@rljacobson - If your review takes a significant amount of time, that's fine, as long as you are willing to do so.
Note that reviewing _Performance_ and _Automated Tests_ can be a review of Are there such things and Do they do what they claim, rather than Are they 100% complete, though you are of course able to suggest improvements. In some sense, you have to balance the amount of code review and spot checks that you do that increase your understanding of the software and its claims with the time you can spend on this.