Submitting author: @Yxqd (Jiao Lin)
Repository: https://github.com/ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling
Version: v0.1.1
Editor: @katyhuff
Reviewer: @stuartcampbell, @mikapfl, @katyhuff
Archive: 10.5281/zenodo.1466048
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First pass review (attention @yxqd ):
Thanks @katyhuff. Song made significant contribution to the software by providing the first implementation of the algorithm in Excel :) ; performing the research using the code; and providing numerous feedback.
I will fix the installation instructions.
@mikapfl @katyhuff installation instruction revised. Please check ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling#23
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@yxqd This tool is small, certainly, but a functional utility. My only remaining concern is with the examples question.
Part of the review for JOSS is with regards to the understandability and usability of the code. Toward this aim, we ask the question: _Do the authors include examples of how to use the software (ideally to solve real-world analysis problems)._
Indeed, as an exploring user, I immediately found and ran your tutorial.ipynb file. I even thought I understood what's going on it. However, it was pretty brief and I certainly wouldn't call it a tutorial or a "real world" example since the problems being approached aren't described at all in the notebook. Later, I saw that the corresponding page in the docs is the exact same example, but with just a few extra sentences to help the user: https://ornlneutronimaging.github.io/braggedgemodeling/tutorial.html . Even though this page is still very minimal, it is far easier to understand!
Accordingly, I'd like to suggest perhaps fleshing out, just a bit, these examples so that it's clearer who should use this and what analysis really calls for it. It would generally be ideal if the notebook in the source code included the same level of explanation as the readthedocs site.
Otherwise, this looks ok to me and I was able to run the tests and tutorial notebook successfully.
Hi @yxqd,
I installed using conda, worked without an issue. Although as a small usability thing, I would change the install to be a single line: $ conda install braggedgemodeling -c condo-forge - this means that you are not permanently. changing the default channels.
Running through the tutorials the answers look like something I would expect. As a small suggestion, I would put images of the expected example plots in the tutorial so users can check that they are seeing what is expected. I know the images are in the notebook, but as you point people at the website then I would put them there as well. Also, maybe put a link to the notebook on the tutorial webpage to make it easier for people to find.
I did experience some RuntimeWarnings, I have created an issue for them (see https://github.com/ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling/issues/24) but I don't think that they have to be fixed for this review.
I think overall the package looks good and the only outstanding issue I can see is that your references do not include the DOIs for them. I've opened the issue https://github.com/ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling/issues/25
After that is done I think all the requirements are satisfied.
Good catch @stuartcampbell ... I completely failed to notice the missing DOIs!
Thank you @katyhuff @stuartcampbell for the comments. I will flesh out the notebook and the documentation as you suggested.
@katyhuff @stuartcampbell documentation was updated as you suggested. Please check https://ornlneutronimaging.github.io/braggedgemodeling/tutorial.html and https://github.com/ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling/blob/master/notebooks/tutorial.ipynb.
DOIs were added for journal papers referenced. I cannot find the DOI for the phd thesis referenced, however. Please check https://github.com/ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling/blob/master/JOSS-paper/paper.bib
Thanks!
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@yxqd the bib file looks good to me now. @katyhuff does @yxqd need to either update the release version to make sure the correct .bib file and paper are in the released git tag ?
@stuartcampbell : An updated doi will be created in the final step before acceptance, if a new release is desired, to reflect review-related changes to the paper and code, many authors do issue a new (minor or patch) release version at that stage as well.
@yxqd should wait until the acceptance to do that though, so that this task only needs to be done once. I would like to wait for @mikapfl's review before that stage. Though I understand it may be a couple more weeks from now, I hope that won't put an undue burden on your development process.
@mikapfl thanks for the note.
@stuartcampbell thanks. I just closed ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling#25.
@katyhuff thanks. sounds a good plan to me
Hi,
I looked at the software and documentation today and found it generally easy to follow and the tutorial to be enough to get me started (I can't judge if this is close to a real-world analysis problem, because I don't know how complicated the real world is in the bragg-edge neutron diffraction camp). However, I found a few usability and documentation issued, which I have reported:
None of them are show stoppers, but I think that new users could benefit more from the documentation and the API would be easier to use if they would be fixed.
I'll check the remaining items on the review to-do list tomorrow.
Cheers
Mika
Hi,
regarding the review question if all functional claims are implemented in the software, I'm having problems to understand if you actually implement
Calculate diffraction peaks data (d-spacing, form factors, etc.) according to sample crystal structure
At least, this seems to be missing from the documentation (tutorial or API documentation) - how would I, say, calculate a form factor from a sample crystal structure? I haven't opened an issue in the bem issue tracker for this since I'm feeling like I'm missing something here, maybe you can comment, @yxqd ?
Cheers
Mika
Hi,
regarding the citations: The citations are linked appropriately and as far as I could see are also relevant. Only one thing for the citations to be done: I think the right citation for Sven Vogel's dissertation would be
Vogel, S. (2000). A rietveld-approach for the analysis of neutron time-of-flight transmission data (PhD thesis). Retrieved from https://macau.uni-kiel.de/receive/dissertation_diss_00000330.
At the moment it reads "Verlag nicht ermittelbar" which is just "publisher unknown" in German.
Cheers
Mika
Thanks, @mikapfl, for the comments. I will check on the issues.
Regarding "Calculate diffraction peaks data (d-spacing, form factors, etc.) according to sample crystal structure": this is done in the bem.diffraction module. d-spacing and form factor are essential to the Bragg-edge spectrum; without them the Bragg edge curves will not have any edges: each edge is located at a d-spacing position. The "jump" of intensities around the edge is mostly influenced by the form factor. One convenience provided by this code is that it can calculate the d-spacings and form factors from the atomic structure without any effort on the user. However, the intended usage of this package is to calculate the Bragg edge curve, not too much about the d-spacings and form factors only by themselves.
Thanks for finding the problem in citation, I will fix it.
@mikapfl Please review ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling#23, ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling#28, ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling#29, ornlneutronimaging/braggedgemodeling#30. Thanks.
@yxqd bem.diffraction seems to be entirely undocumented. I understand that you need it mainly "behind the scenes" to calculate the full Bragg edge curve, so maybe you should not put "Calculate diffraction peaks data (d-spacing, form factors, etc.) according to sample crystal structure" as the first (and thus implied to be most important) feature in the description of features in the README. If users of this package are mainly interested in Bragg edge curves, put those front and center in your description of features. You can, if you want to, still mention that you of course also calculate diffraction peak data to be able to calculate a Bragg edge curve, but I think you should somehow make clear that it is rather an internal thing.
Cheers
Mika
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I believe the concern regarding references has been handled. This leaves just the final check boxes by @mikapfl regarding functionality and documentation of the API. Once those are handled, we should be good to go! @yxqd I hope you'll let us know when you believe these have been handled.
@mikapfl @katyhuff I reworded the "features" to hide the details about diffraction calculation. Please check.
Hi,
thanks, that solves the remaining issue for me, from my side, everything has been handled now. (-:
Cheers
Mika
@mikapfl thanks. @katyhuff I believe all items have been handled.
Excellent! Thank you @mikapfl and @stuartcampbell for the reviews! I know it's a lot of work, and I think you both conducted very helpful and thorough reviews.
Thank you @yxqd for this interesting submission, and for engaging actively in the review process.
Could you please make an archive of the reviewed software in Zenodo/figshare/other service and update this thread with the DOI of the archive? I can then move forward with accepting the submission! (You may want to be sure to double check the paper, all minor details, etc. before creating the archive).
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Thanks again to @stuartcampbell and @mikapfl for your helpful reviews.
Congratulations @yxqd , your paper is ready to be accepted!
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the "cite as" part in http://joss.theoj.org/papers/10.21105/joss.00973 looks weird, is that intended?
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Nope. That's a bug. I'll fix early next week.
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