Hope you're sitting down, because this one is big.. To unblock #3097, #2699, #1761, #590 and many others, I'm going to add a taskbar to iD.
iD works well because we work hard to keep it simple. We don't want to add buttons or menus or toolbars. UI scope creep is something that I take very seriously. I think about this probably more than people realize.
However we are running into a bunch of situations where we want to add useful things to iD but we have no good place to put them. Building drawing. Indoor editing. Repeat tags. And other stuff. Maybe someday plugins.
These things are not "modes" in the traditional iD sense. Modes are _exclusive_ and they live on the top bar:

It would be really easy to add more buttons here - but we shouldn't.
If they aren't modes, what are they? I'm calling them tasks, to differentiate them from modes. Modes are exclusive, tasks are not. For example, take "square drawing":
Repeat after me: "Modes are exclusive, Tasks are not." This runs a bit contrary to how non-programmers think about the world, but we already have "modes" in iD so let's just run with it.
The taskbar / notification area metaphor is something that is, by now, universally understood. You probably have a taskbar on your screen now.
If you use Windows, it looks like this:

If you use Mac, you have this:

These are icons that you don't need to pay attention to, but are there when you need them.
_Did you know:_ iD has something that looks like a taskbar already:

But this is not a taskbar. These are just some interesting (or not really) links. This confuses people because it looks like a taskbar but is not one.
_I am proposing to move these interesting links into the Help pane, and use this space as a for-real taskbar._
An empty taskbar will just have a single icon that opens up a drawer from the bottom. That drawer can contain all kinds of things that can be toggled on and off - and when on, an icon for that thing will appear on the taskbar. Simple. Users can ignore it if they want to. And someday plugins can add themselves there. And we don't need to touch any of the other iD UI that we love.
I'm going to keep saying taskbar to build acceptance around this idea. Because changing the UI in iD is scary. Taskbar. Here are some bar-related emojis to make this idea less scary: ๐ ๐ ๐ซ ๐ ๐ธ
Thanks for listening!
I really like the direction you are taking. As you say it is important to keep iD simple but that does not mean that it should not have additional user friendly components.. The task bar is something a lot of people can relate to so would not be difficult to promote.
Thanks for all the great work you are doing on iD Editor.
Ralph
Using the task bar space seems to be worth to think about, but I don't think that the concept of the non-exclusive tasks is user friendly. In addition there would likely be conflicts between multiple active tasks.
We should have an application mode setting. This needs a single visible icon showing the current application mode that opens a drawer with all available application modes which could for example be:
Each application mode should be able to define the available modes. I think we should allow 5 or 6 available modes for each application mode, because most application modes will likely need to include the three standard modes point, line, and area.
In addition each application mode should be able to filter selectable data and to influence available radial menu operations.
The taskbar can be used to place operations which don't fit into the radial menu, and/or show some editing hints.
Especially I dislike the idea of the square drawing as a "task". This is just a modification of the standard area drawing mode (or maybe a building drawing mode), we can consider it as a sub-mode. It is not user friendly to let the user search for the setting which is hidden in a drawer at the other end of the screen. Instead the sub-mode setting should be available where the mode button is.
A special kind of selection of the mode button could open a menu for selecting available sub-modes.
This special kind of selection could be:
In oder to make it discoverable the hover box of the mode button should indicate how to select the submode setting.
The icon and text of the mode button should slightly change according to the selected sub-mode.
Another possible solution would be to show shortcut keys to switch submodes as an editing hint in the taskbar when the mode is active.
The application mode concept, which I have proposed above, would also allow to split the General editor mode into a simple and a more advanced general editing application mode.
The simple one might have the current three drawing modes only (point, line, area) and have some more limitations.
I propose to call the area in the right bottom corner toolbar. We may have an indoor tool, a building tool and a mass attribute tool and more tools.
I dont like the idea of plugins, because having a simple unified user experice with iD is what helps me and maybe other people using it without the need of learning how to.
I don'tsee why tools (or tasks if you stay with that name) habe to be non-exclusive.
In any case i really like what @bhousel does!
Hey @slhh,
Instead the sub-mode setting should be available where the mode button is.
A special kind of selection of the mode button could open a menu for selecting available sub-modes.
I did consider this - it is how programs like Photoshop hide their tool options. If the task bar idea ends up not working, we could always switch it later.
The icon and text of the mode button should slightly change according to the selected sub-mode.
Yes, I still might do this to make it more obvious that iD is working differently than usual.
Hey @manfredbrandl,
I propose to call the area in the right bottom corner toolbar. We may have an indoor tool, a building tool and a mass attribute tool and more tools.
I think "toolbar" is maybe too generic. iD has a bunch of toolbars already, but yes this change would amount to "turning that bottom area into another toolbar".

I dont like the idea of plugins, because having a simple unified user experice with iD is what helps me and maybe other people using it without the need of learning how to.
Yeah plugins are scary to me too. My approach to that will be more like "remove existing things from iD and make them plugins". iD is starting to be used in other sites, and it is accumulating a lot of features that these other sites don't need.
I don'tsee why tools (or tasks if you stay with that name) habe to be non-exclusive.
The ones I want to add right now are "square drawing", "indoor editing", and "repeat tags". Those things are not exclusive (i.e. you might want to draw square things indoors, or repeat tags on square buildings).. I agree that we have to consider very carefully what tools can go here so that they don't interfere with each other.
iD's workflow does not require to switch directly between (drawing) modes because the mode is automatically terminated when the feature has been drawn.
Therefore, another method to make tool options of the drawing modes accessible and visible is to replace the top toolbar with option settings while the drawing mode is active. Users dont need to have access to the mode buttons or save button during this time. Undo and Redo are at least not required during the time between mode selection and setting the first node.
I have just recognized that we have plenty of space available for options of the drawing modes: #3124
I assume that remember tags is intended for features which are newly drawn. In this case it can be handled as a drawing mode option too.
The indoor mode can reside in the task bar, but we will likely have to define groups of tasks to be mutually exclusive soon. I think a task should have three states in general:
An additional option to hide tasks in the taskbar dependent on context could increase scaleability of the concept, but preferably we should place such context dependent settings elsewhere.
I like the idea of tasks โ we can show several small icons in the taskbar, and hint user how to activate them. (For example - "Select a building to enable indoor mode").
I'd prefer showing all the tasks at the same time, toggling drawer could be confusing. You could argue it could overwhelm the (begginer) user, but I think unobtrusive icons would be fine - the user wouldn't care if he doesnt want to.
Hello @bhousel ,
your idea "taskbar is a special toolbar" is okay.
Concerning plugins we think the same way.
Converning non-exclusive tasks I was on the wrong side, having them exklusive would be bad.
Thank you for making iD the easiest OSM-Editor!
@bhousel I am not sure I understand what the issue is that you want to solve.
I suggest writing down a few usecases / usage-szenarios to make it easier to finde similarities for the UI.
From what I understand the Interface is structured like this
(a) Editing toolbar
Goal: Hands on editing on the map surface.

(b) Map toolbar
Goal: Interact with the map surface itself.
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(c) Map panel
Gaol: Configure the map within detailed configuration panels.
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Only the first two icons belong in this category.
(c) Help
Goal: Provide help. A general overview and links to further information.
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(d) Status bar
Goal: Random low priority information.

(e) Contextual (left) sidebar
Goal: Provide editing options like Tags and the Save Menu.
This is contextual based on what "(a) Editing toolbar"-Option and/or "(f) Map editing area"-Element is selected.
(f) Map editing area
Goal: Show the map, show the tags, allow editing with live preview.
For reference lets have a look at what others do.
_Update 2017-12-31 15:50:_ To clarify, I don't list those UIs as examples for a good interface but for the high level interaction pattern and naming conventions that they introduces. It helps to use similar names for similar things. And it helps to learn โ the good and the bad โ from existing interface interaction patterns.
_Update 2017-01-01 9:50:_ Apparently this part is still easy do misunderstand (see comment by @RAytoun https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3123#issuecomment-354624078), so I will update it again and more drastic this time:
Applications I looked at: Microsoft Office UI with Ribbon, Microsoft IE Developer Tools, Open Office Calc, Apache Office
IMO those patterns overlap nicely. Mainly two things jump out:
a. Help area.
Comparing the iD UI and other applications it becomes clear that the help are is not well placed.
b. Toolbar tabs / toolbar modes
The office ribbon interface introduced a very nice pattern to handle toolbar icon bloat by using tabs to twitch toolbars. However, this is only a good solution to only switch the tools. Its not the solution to also change the behaviour of the map area for example.
For me, this is where a detailed use case analysis for indoor editing, building-adding etc. is required to find the right UI for the job.
@tordans I support your ideas about placing "Help" or "?" in the top right corner, people expect it there. @bhousel You proposed "to move these interesting links [Issues, Translation, Source Code, Version from the bottom right corner] into the Help pan, and use this space as a for-real taskbar." The first part is already done and I think it could be time now to do the second part.
@bhousel I am not sure I understand what the issue is that you want to solve.
see: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2699#issuecomment-354606457
The issue I'm trying to solve is to add things to iD without cluttering the top bar.
For reference lets have a look at what others do.
Yes. Every single example you posted is an example of what we don't want for iD. Office UI with Ribbon, IE Developer tools, Open Office Calc, and Apache Office are all great examples of the exact opposite of what we are trying to achieve with iD.
@bhousel
The issue I'm trying to solve is to add things to iD without cluttering the top bar.
My message is, that not all tasks are the same and each task needs to be analysed separate. The #2699 is different from indoor mapping. And so on. To find a great wireframe the tasks need to be laid out. That was my question.
Every single example you posted โฆ (are) great examples of the exact opposite of what we are trying to achieve with iD.
I agree and clarified my post above:
Update 2017-12-31 15:50: To clarify, I don't list those UIs as examples for a good interface but for the high level interaction pattern and naming conventions that they introduces. It helps to use similar names for similar things. And it helps to learn โ the good and the bad โ from existing interface interaction patterns.
I think it not helpful to write more on this for now. Lets see what is proposed. :)
@tordans I am in full agreement with @bhousel that iD should be kept simple for the beginners so do not clutter the top bar. We already have JOSM for those who want a more advanced Editor. Lets rather concentrate on making iD better for the beginner by making it less possible to make mistakes rather than trying to turn it into an advanced Editor. I know there are some very active users of iD out there and some added features will help them but please keep these as additions and not standard.
I would like to see the building tool (#528; #2699) renamed as building mode and added as a mode on the top bar between line and area as it would be an essential for beginners and anyone else for that matter and would probably end up being the most used. But agree that the top bar should be kept separate from the more advanced additions.
I also agree that the 'help' button should be taken out of the side bar and made as a more prominent stand alone.
What would also help the beginner (and the standard of mapping) is a method of flagging bad basic mapping similar to the one in JOSM. When they save their work it gets flagged if there are untagged ways or nodes, crossing buildings or roads, duplicated nodes and also a means to jump to that error so they can correct it before saving the work.
I also like the ability to select multiple objects (#1761; #2131; #2350) to apply the same tag to each, or to square them all in one go, or to copy and paste tags (#839).
I certainly would not be very happy if iD Editor went down the road of the examples given by @tordans (Microsoft and Apache Office) which would give way too many choices for beginners and lead to a lot more headaches for validators.
I look forward to seeing the new developments and finding out which direction we will be going.
Thanks again to @bhousel and the team.
@bhousel this issue did not resolve for milestone 2.8. I suppose you know.
this issue did not resolve for milestone 2.8. I suppose you know.
yes ๐ข
Obviously the UI is going in a different direction than I had hoped, so might as well close this.
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Using the task bar space seems to be worth to think about, but I don't think that the concept of the non-exclusive tasks is user friendly. In addition there would likely be conflicts between multiple active tasks.
We should have an application mode setting. This needs a single visible icon showing the current application mode that opens a drawer with all available application modes which could for example be:
Each application mode should be able to define the available modes. I think we should allow 5 or 6 available modes for each application mode, because most application modes will likely need to include the three standard modes point, line, and area.
In addition each application mode should be able to filter selectable data and to influence available radial menu operations.
The taskbar can be used to place operations which don't fit into the radial menu, and/or show some editing hints.