Gt-new-horizons-modpack: An nonsense sulfuric acid recipe

Created on 9 Oct 2018  路  10Comments  路  Source: GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack

Which modpack version are you using?

2.0.5.1
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If in multiplayer; On which server does this happen?

singleplayer
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What did you try to do, and what did you expect to happen?

I expect to don't see an nonsense reaction for sulfuric acid.
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What happend instead? (Attach screenshots if needed)

non-realistic recipe.
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What do you suggest instead/what changes do you propose?

Since, gt5u changed a lot of chemical processes to "realistic" ones including sulfuric acid (H2S => SO2 => SO3 => H2SO4), I don't understand why this is still available (H2S + H2O => H2SO4). (Since water is very weak oxidant this reaction can't be done).
My propose is disable recipes from screenshots in favor of "real-life" ones.
P.S. I know that there are many chemically nonsense recipes but we don't have alternatives yet.
P.P.S. Thank you!

Also opened issue on gt5u repo
https://github.com/Blood-Asp/GT5-Unofficial/issues/1499

Need more Info balancing realistic

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I still vote no.

GTNH is not only about realism, but also playability. Requiring this much O2 available to process sulfur to sulfuric acid is prohibitive IMO, esp. since it comes into play at the same time as need lots of O2 for polyethylene and polyvinyl chloride. And includes more processing time on the electrolyzer to turn H2S into S, which is already under pressure at MV.

If change is implemented, will require updating quests related to H2S processing, including PR quest line.

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@Erixonich @richardhendricks we have other ways to get h2so4 so i can disable it.
Did you have another alternative cheap recipe i could add @Erixonich ?

maybe this one ?
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but wait i read a bit about sulfuric acid and they said you can make diluted sulfuric acid add water. Ok i am not a chemist so @Erixonich tell me the right to do it.

Personally I love realism when it comes to chemistry.

Maybe we coud change the recipe to sulfurous acid, but that would just add another material, that does nearly nothing:
H2S + O2 + H2O -> H2SO3
H2SO3 + O2 -> H2SO4

Maybe we coud change the recipe to sulfurous acid, but that would just add another material, that does nearly nothing:
H2S + O2 + H2O -> H2SO3
H2SO3 + O2 -> H2SO4

Technically, H2SO3 is unstable molecule in most cases you should write SO2 + H2O
In that case we have recipe.

but wait i read a bit about sulfuric acid and they said you can make diluted sulfuric acid add water. Ok i am not a chemist so @Erixonich tell me the right to do it.

I just suggest remove recipe hydrogen sulphide + water = sulfuric acid (2 small reactor and 1 big reactor recipes)
Alternative aproach is quiet correct. (SO2 + O2 = SO3 just need catalyst like V2O5 but gt reactors do not support 3 component recipes)
TY for your attention!

I still vote no.

GTNH is not only about realism, but also playability. Requiring this much O2 available to process sulfur to sulfuric acid is prohibitive IMO, esp. since it comes into play at the same time as need lots of O2 for polyethylene and polyvinyl chloride. And includes more processing time on the electrolyzer to turn H2S into S, which is already under pressure at MV.

If change is implemented, will require updating quests related to H2S processing, including PR quest line.

I also vote no here. The oxygen route has twice the efficiency per H2S so it will always be preferred by higher-tier players anyways. For low tier players it presents an interesting choice between efficiency or saving their oxygen, which they need a lot of for steel and other chemistry. Realism should not be the only goal of GT, it should be a mix of realism and nonrealism for the purpose of fun gameplay.

It should be changed, oxygen isn't a hard resource to get

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